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Summer Tournament Round Five
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Round 5 (teams to be named by midnight on Thursday 24th July, predictions by 1800 hours on Sunday 27th July)
Harlequins v Bath Rugby (Liberty Stadium, Swansea)
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
1. Steven Kitchoff
2. Brian Byrne
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Charlie Matthews
5. George Kruis
6. Jamie Gibson (c)
7. Dan Leavy
8. Jack Clifford
9. Eric Escande
10. Ihaia West
11. Jack Nowell
12. Jan Serfontein
13. Pita Ahki
14. Chris Feauai-Sautia
15. Olly Lindsey- Hague
16. Rob Buchanan 17. Ed Byrne 18. Tadgh Furlong 19. James Chisholm 20. So'atala Fa'aso'o 21. Luke McGrath 22. Stuart Olding 23. Jason Emery
Who could play in a AP or Heiniken Cup game for me?
Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
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16. Richard Hibbard 17. Cian Healy 18. Ben Tameifuma 19. Sam Whitelock 20. Sean O'Brien 21. Fourie Du Preez 22. Christian Lealifiano 23. Stuart Hogg
Newcastle Falcons v Exeter Chiefs (Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli)
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Driver
16. Rory Best 17.Soana Tonga 18.Matt Stevens 19.Ed Slater 20.Imanol Harinordiquy 21.Will Fraser 22.Nathan Fowles 23.Ben Smith
Tactics:
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Fluxy
16. Dimitri Szarzewski 17. Richard Barrington 18. Davit Kubriashvili 19. Kane Douglas 20. Toby Faletau 21. Chris Cook 22. Marnitz Boshoff 23. Tom Varndell
Tactics:
Sale Sharks v Leicester Tigers (Ravenhill Stadium, Belfast)
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
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16. Jack McGrath 17. David Paice 18. Rabah Slimani 19. Matt Garvey 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Beauden Barrett 23. Kyle Eastmond
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
16. Andrew Sheridan 17. Christopher Tolofua 18. Dan Cole 19. Kearnan Myall 20. Ernst Joubert 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Rene Ranger 23. Drew Mitchell
London Irish v Gloucester (RDS Arena, Dublin)
London Irish
Manager – Prop
16. Marc Jones 17. Adam Jones 18. Tom Court 19. Devin Toner 20. Scott Higginbotham 21. Rory Kockott 22. Jules Plisson 23. Robbie Henshaw
Questions
Which academy players could make the step up?
Thought's on Henshaw's best position-13 or 15?
Thought's on the centre partnership and 2nd row pairing.
Which non eq players on the bench would be useful for instant impact?
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
1 Sebastian Adeniran-Olule
2 LCD
3 Figallo
4 JD Snickerling
5 Elliot Stooke
6 pablo Matera
7 Ardie Savea
8 yacoub Camara
9 Rhodri Williams
10 Handre Pollard
11 Rhaymond Rule
12 Andre Esterhuizen
13 Juan de Jongh
14 Charlie Walker
15 Sam Davies
16 Nick Wood
17 Adriaan Strauss
18 Nicola Mas
19 Dominic Bird
20 Schalk Burger
21 Will Genia
22 Billy Burns
23 Israel Dagg
London Wasps v Northampton Saints (Thomond Park, Limerick)
London Wasps
Manager Ozzy3213
16. Tom Youngs 17. Scott Sio 18. Ben Alexander 19. Romain Millo-Chluski 20. Marcell Coetzee 21. Ben Youngs 22. Henry Slade 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
Predictions
Would like to know thoughts on the following please.
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
16. Mako Vunipola 17. Rob Webber 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Samu Manoa 20. Sergio Parisse 21. Joe Simpson 22. Matt Toomua 23. Ben Foden.
Tactics: Power game, phyiscal around the breakdown, getting big ball carriers over the gainline and tiring down opposition before unloading the impact bench.
Looking for comments on the team that don't look at form issues or those who are injured as just want to see what the thoughts are around what will most likely be the majority of my strongest team and the balance of the team.
Want to play a game similar to the Toulon style this season - is that a side that could do that?
London Welsh v Saracens (Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow)
London Welsh
Manager – CJ
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16. Dave Ward 17. David Kilcoyne 18. BJ Botha 19. Alexandre Flanquart 20. Ashley Johnson 21. Ben Spencer 22. Kyle Godwin 23. Sean Maitland
Questions: who can make an impact on that bench? What do we think of Chisholm and Tikoirituima? And is this my best back row?
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
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16. Keven Mealamu 17. Max Lahiff 18. Matius Diaz 19. Louis Deacon 20. Nathan Hughes 21. Henry Taylor 22. Freddie Burns 23. George Lowe
- can I get feedback on combo's pls
Round 5 (teams to be named by midnight on Thursday 24th July, predictions by 1800 hours on Sunday 27th July)
Harlequins v Bath Rugby (Liberty Stadium, Swansea)
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
1. Steven Kitchoff
2. Brian Byrne
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Charlie Matthews
5. George Kruis
6. Jamie Gibson (c)
7. Dan Leavy
8. Jack Clifford
9. Eric Escande
10. Ihaia West
11. Jack Nowell
12. Jan Serfontein
13. Pita Ahki
14. Chris Feauai-Sautia
15. Olly Lindsey- Hague
16. Rob Buchanan 17. Ed Byrne 18. Tadgh Furlong 19. James Chisholm 20. So'atala Fa'aso'o 21. Luke McGrath 22. Stuart Olding 23. Jason Emery
Who could play in a AP or Heiniken Cup game for me?
Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
01. James Slipper | 09. Maxime Machenaud |
02. Agustin Creevey | 10. Rhys Patchell |
03. Charlie Faumuania | |
04. Like Charteris | 11. Rob Horne |
05. Luke Jones | 12. Kurtley Beale |
06. Siya Kolisi | 13. George North |
07. Liam Gill | 14. Jamie Elliot |
08. Edwin Maka | 15. Alex Goode |
16. Richard Hibbard 17. Cian Healy 18. Ben Tameifuma 19. Sam Whitelock 20. Sean O'Brien 21. Fourie Du Preez 22. Christian Lealifiano 23. Stuart Hogg
Newcastle Falcons v Exeter Chiefs (Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli)
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Driver
01. Matt Mullen | 09. Greig Laidlaw |
02. George McGuigan | 10. Owen Farrell |
03. Scott Wilson | |
04. Yoaan Maestri | 11. Charlie Sharples |
05. Dom Barrow | 12. Luke Marshall |
06. Ben Mowen (C) | 13. Robbie Fruen |
07. Dan Lydiate | 14. Max Evans |
08. Dave Lewis | 15. Rob Miller |
Tactics:
- Left and right flankers , tackle they're socks off and force turnover by workrate rather than jackle
- field position is key , Laidlaw and Faz to put us into Chiefs corners.
- Move the ball when on , Miller to come into 1st reciever to mix attack up.
Kick Chasers in Evans and Sharples to follow long high kicks.
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Fluxy
01. Taniela Tupou | 09. Bryn Hall |
02. Jack Yeandle | 10. Tom Heathcote |
03. Alex Lundberg | |
04. Patrick Tuipulotu | 11. Lolagi Visinia |
05. Glen Young | 12. Eamon Sheridan |
06. Carl Fearns | 13. Alex Dunbar |
07. Jacob Rowan | 14. Andrew Trimble |
08. Gus Jones | 15. Jean Marcel Buttin |
Tactics:
- Use of heavy carriers, and mobile support runners in the pack to create forward momentum.
- Phase play with half backs dictating play. Look for territory when need to gain field position.
- Counter attack whenever possible.
Sale Sharks v Leicester Tigers (Ravenhill Stadium, Belfast)
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
01. Marcos Ayerza | 09. Danny Care |
02. Benjamin Kayser | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Davit Zirakishvilli | |
04. Brodie Retalick | 11. Simon Zebo |
05. Dave Attwood | 12. Anthony Allen |
06. Steven Luatua | 13. George Pisi |
07. Matt Todd | 14. Semesa Rokoduguni |
08. Louis Picamoles | 15. Willie Le Roux |
16. Jack McGrath 17. David Paice 18. Rabah Slimani 19. Matt Garvey 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Beauden Barrett 23. Kyle Eastmond
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Kahn Fotuali'i |
02. Stephen Moore | 10. Brock James |
03. Cencus Johnston | |
04. Nathan Hines | 11. Alex Cuthbert |
05. Pascal Pape (c) | 12. Billy Twelvetrees (k) |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Matthieu Basteraud |
07. Jacques Burger | 14. Napolini Nalaga |
08. Ryan Jones | 15. Mike Brown |
London Irish v Gloucester (RDS Arena, Dublin)
London Irish
Manager – Prop
01. Tom Smallbone | 09. Jack Moates |
02. Gerard Ellis | 10. Sam Olver |
03. Richard Palframann | |
04. Sean O'Brien | 11. Harry Robinson |
05. Kieran Tredwell | 12. Cory Allen |
06. Jordan Talufua | 13. Anton Lienert-Brown |
07. Ben Earl | 14. Sergeal Petersen |
08. David Sisi | 15. Jonah Placid |
Questions
Which academy players could make the step up?
Thought's on Henshaw's best position-13 or 15?
Thought's on the centre partnership and 2nd row pairing.
Which non eq players on the bench would be useful for instant impact?
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
1 Sebastian Adeniran-Olule
2 LCD
3 Figallo
4 JD Snickerling
5 Elliot Stooke
6 pablo Matera
7 Ardie Savea
8 yacoub Camara
9 Rhodri Williams
10 Handre Pollard
11 Rhaymond Rule
12 Andre Esterhuizen
13 Juan de Jongh
14 Charlie Walker
15 Sam Davies
16 Nick Wood
17 Adriaan Strauss
18 Nicola Mas
19 Dominic Bird
20 Schalk Burger
21 Will Genia
22 Billy Burns
23 Israel Dagg
London Wasps v Northampton Saints (Thomond Park, Limerick)
London Wasps
Manager Ozzy3213
01. Joe Marler | 09. Aaron Smith |
02. Bismarck du Plessis (c) | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. David Wilson | |
04. Paul Willemse | 11. Bryan Habana |
05. Sebastien Vahaamahina | 12. Ma'a Nonu |
06. Jerome Kaino | 13. Paul Jordan |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Henry Speight |
08. Duane Vermeulen | 15. Delon Armitage |
16. Tom Youngs 17. Scott Sio 18. Ben Alexander 19. Romain Millo-Chluski 20. Marcell Coetzee 21. Ben Youngs 22. Henry Slade 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
- Standard tactics of a possession based game and looking to through the phases with pace and intensity.
- Offloading in or just before the tackle to keep the ball alive and move the opposition defence around.
- Blitz defence with scrum half sweeping to cover.
Predictions
Would like to know thoughts on the following please.
- Lock combination.
- Centre combination.
- Bench.
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
01. Thomas Domingo | 09. Mike Phillips |
02. Dylan Hartley(c) | 10. Matt Giteau |
03. Carl Hayman | |
04. Joe Launchbury | 11. Vereniki Goneva |
05. Courtney Lawes | 12. Weslie Fofana |
06. Chris Robshaw | 13. Manu Tuilagi |
07. David Pocock | 14. Julian Savea |
08. Billy Vunipola | 15. Leigh Halfpenny(k) |
Tactics: Power game, phyiscal around the breakdown, getting big ball carriers over the gainline and tiring down opposition before unloading the impact bench.
Looking for comments on the team that don't look at form issues or those who are injured as just want to see what the thoughts are around what will most likely be the majority of my strongest team and the balance of the team.
Want to play a game similar to the Toulon style this season - is that a side that could do that?
London Welsh v Saracens (Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow)
London Welsh
Manager – CJ
01. Nathan Catt | 09. Michael Classens |
02. Matthew Rees | 10. Francois Trinh-Duc (k) |
03. Sekope Kepu | |
04. Alun Wynn- Jones (c) | 11. Nemani Nadolo |
05. Mouritz Botha | 12. Jordan Turner-Hall |
06. Alexander Lapandry | 13. Michelle Campagnaro |
07. John Barclay | 14. Aseili Tikoirituima |
08. Victor Vito | 15. Ross Chisholm |
16. Dave Ward 17. David Kilcoyne 18. BJ Botha 19. Alexandre Flanquart 20. Ashley Johnson 21. Ben Spencer 22. Kyle Godwin 23. Sean Maitland
Questions: who can make an impact on that bench? What do we think of Chisholm and Tikoirituima? And is this my best back row?
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
01. Alex Waller | 09. Morgan Parra |
02. Jamie George | 10. Bernard Foley |
03. Jannie Du Plessis | |
04. Etienne Oosthuizen | 11. Juan Imhoff |
05. Flip Van Der Merwe | 12. Maxime Mermoz |
06. Brad Shields | 13. Jonathan Davies |
07. Heinrich Brussow | 14. Chris Ashton |
08. Dave Denton | 15. Matt Tait |
16. Keven Mealamu 17. Max Lahiff 18. Matius Diaz 19. Louis Deacon 20. Nathan Hughes 21. Henry Taylor 22. Freddie Burns 23. George Lowe
- can I get feedback on combo's pls
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Re: Summer Tournament Round Five
OKay to predict?
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i'll do the final one in about an hour.
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Predos in the next hour if they're still open
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Quins 18 - 29 Bath
Tad more in Bath's front row for me, and their experience at lock sees them take the front five. Bath look stronger in the back row too and take the pack overall. Hb's side to Bath, and centres too although not sold on that combo.Bath take the back three, and take the game fairly comfortably.
Newcastle 25 - 21 Exeter
Not much in the front rows, neither side looks to dominate. Second rows also fairly even, but Newcastle take the back row despite Lydiate out of position. Newcastle take the HBs, with centres close but Newcastle take the wingers. Good game but Newcastle have that bit extra in quality.
Irish 19 - 25 Gloucester
Slight edge to Gloucs up front, with second rows quite tight. Not a lot in the back rows, but I think overall Gloucs edge the pack battle. Gloucs edge HB's, and a little bit more about them in the centres too. Back threes fairly close. Decent game, with Gloucs having enough to edge it.
Wasps 28 - 27 Saints
I's edge slightly to Wasps in the front row, but Saints take the second row. Think Wasps look slightly stronger in the back row and overall they just edge the pack. Wasps look the stronger at HB, but Saints look better in the centres. Slight edge to Saints in the back three. Great game, two top sides, Wasps slightly edge it.
Welsh 25 - 25 Saracens
As a unit slight edge to Welsh up front, with two fairly even second rows. Not a great deal int he back rows, maybe slight lean towards to Welsh. Think Welsh edge the pack slightly. Decent HB contest near clear winner, Sarries look stronger at center, with Sarries taking back three too. Really good game, not sure either side has enough to win it.
Tad more in Bath's front row for me, and their experience at lock sees them take the front five. Bath look stronger in the back row too and take the pack overall. Hb's side to Bath, and centres too although not sold on that combo.Bath take the back three, and take the game fairly comfortably.
Newcastle 25 - 21 Exeter
Not much in the front rows, neither side looks to dominate. Second rows also fairly even, but Newcastle take the back row despite Lydiate out of position. Newcastle take the HBs, with centres close but Newcastle take the wingers. Good game but Newcastle have that bit extra in quality.
Irish 19 - 25 Gloucester
Slight edge to Gloucs up front, with second rows quite tight. Not a lot in the back rows, but I think overall Gloucs edge the pack battle. Gloucs edge HB's, and a little bit more about them in the centres too. Back threes fairly close. Decent game, with Gloucs having enough to edge it.
Wasps 28 - 27 Saints
I's edge slightly to Wasps in the front row, but Saints take the second row. Think Wasps look slightly stronger in the back row and overall they just edge the pack. Wasps look the stronger at HB, but Saints look better in the centres. Slight edge to Saints in the back three. Great game, two top sides, Wasps slightly edge it.
Welsh 25 - 25 Saracens
As a unit slight edge to Welsh up front, with two fairly even second rows. Not a great deal int he back rows, maybe slight lean towards to Welsh. Think Welsh edge the pack slightly. Decent HB contest near clear winner, Sarries look stronger at center, with Sarries taking back three too. Really good game, not sure either side has enough to win it.
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RESULTS:
Harlequins 21 (T:2 C:1 P:3)
Bath Rugby 34 (T:4 C:4 P:2)
Newcastle Falcons 35 (T:4 C:3 P:3)
Exeter Chiefs 22 (T:1 C:1 P:5)
Sale Sharks 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
Leicester Tigers 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)
London Irish 18 (T:2 C:1 P:2)
Gloucester 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
London Wasps 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
Northampton Saints 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
London Welsh 24 (T:2 C:1 P:4)
Saracens 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)
BONUS:
Full: Matt, Luke, Prop, Pete, Chris, SJE, Pooly & CJ
Score: CJB & Driver
Harlequins 21 (T:2 C:1 P:3)
Bath Rugby 34 (T:4 C:4 P:2)
Newcastle Falcons 35 (T:4 C:3 P:3)
Exeter Chiefs 22 (T:1 C:1 P:5)
Sale Sharks 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
Leicester Tigers 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)
London Irish 18 (T:2 C:1 P:2)
Gloucester 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
London Wasps 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
Northampton Saints 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
London Welsh 24 (T:2 C:1 P:4)
Saracens 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)
BONUS:
Full: Matt, Luke, Prop, Pete, Chris, SJE, Pooly & CJ
Score: CJB & Driver
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Pool A
Pool B
Pos | Team | P | W | D | L | PF | PA | PD | TF | TA | TBP | LBP | PTS |
1. | Bath Rugby | 5 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 148 | 127 | +21 | 18 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 21 |
2. | Sale Sharks | 5 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 143 | 125 | +18 | 16 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 19 |
3. | Newcastle Falcons | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 142 | 133 | +9 | 15 | 15 | 1 | 2 | 15 |
4. | Harlequins | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 127 | 140 | -13 | 14 | 15 | 1 | 1 | 10 |
5. | Exeter Chiefs | 5 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 128 | 141 | -13 | 14 | 16 | 1 | 2 | 9 |
6. | Leicester Tigers | 5 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 126 | 148 | -22 | 10 | 15 | 0 | 3 | 5 |
Pos | Team | P | W | D | L | PF | PA | PD | TF | TA | TBP | LBP | PTS |
1. | Wasps | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 157 | 121 | +36 | 20 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 24 |
2. | Gloucester | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 152 | 126 | +26 | 18 | 14 | 3 | 2 | 17 |
3. | Northampton Saints | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 144 | 133 | +11 | 17 | 15 | 2 | 2 | 16 |
4. | Saracens | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 144 | 138 | +6 | 16 | 17 | 2 | 2 | 16 |
5. | London Welsh | 5 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 119 | 168 | -49 | 12 | 21 | 1 | 1 | 6 |
6. | London Irish | 5 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 124 | 154 | -30 | 14 | 18 | 1 | 4 | 5 |
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Cup Semi Finals
Bath Rugby vs. Gloucester
Wasps vs. Sale Sharks
Plate Semi Finals
Newcastle Falcons vs. Saracens
Northampton Saints vs. Harlequins
Shield Semi Finals
Exeter Chiefs vs. London Irish
London Welsh vs. Leicester Tigers
These games will be played over 2 legs, match thread for 1st leg will be up shortly.
Bath Rugby vs. Gloucester
Wasps vs. Sale Sharks
Plate Semi Finals
Newcastle Falcons vs. Saracens
Northampton Saints vs. Harlequins
Shield Semi Finals
Exeter Chiefs vs. London Irish
London Welsh vs. Leicester Tigers
These games will be played over 2 legs, match thread for 1st leg will be up shortly.
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