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Post by CallMeBenji Thu 25 Sep 2014, 1:22 pm

It's been revealed at the press conference that Eubank hasn't actually signed the contract. Warren was only told that they were stalling 10 minutes before the press conference !

On the one hand it's disgusting for him to stall at this stage but on the other should Warren be announcing the fight before it's signed sealed and delivered? This could all be mind games by Eubank. Either way, this isn't putting himself across very well at all.

I don't blame Saunders for giving him until 5pm. Eubank's reputation will go through the floor if he doesn't sign...

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/chris-eubank-jnr-has-not-signed-to-fight-billy-joe-saunders/

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Post by catchweight Thu 25 Sep 2014, 1:31 pm

Classic Frank

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Post by Valero's Conscience Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:05 pm

I think Eubank will avoid the fight.

He'll be like Kell Brook (up until last month) and avoid the big fights for years.

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Post by rob-glos Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:12 pm

Eubank Jr has a credibility issue. 

He can't carry on knocking over Lithuanian plumbers. 
If he ducks BJS now it will be a disgrace. 

He's had 17 fights now and not one of them remotely competitive...

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:12 pm

You could put one hell of a card together in recent times of fights Frank has announced before they are actually signed. This is pretty bad to be fair, I have friends at work who have purchased tickets for this card, to some extent their decision was influenced by this fight being on. Am sure they are not the only ones in such a situation. Should this fight not now happen refunds should be offered.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:31 pm

No big surprise here. I was doubtful this would happen. Now we find out Warren has been promoting a card on the back of a fight that isn't going to happen and was never signed. If I knew Eubank Jr. was sparring in the states so should Frank. Frank has been trying to sell tickets for an event nobody is interested in. He prob thought people would be happy so long as the main event went forward. Wrong. He is already getting hammered online for this. Why BJS can't see his promoter is a joke, I do not know?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:38 pm

Maybe he's hoping you buy tickets for Chis-Fury...Before this fight is done or called off..

I don't know why Warren bothers promoting....Just buy overseas fights and leave the promoting to Eddie..

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Post by catchweight Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:38 pm

I wouldnt like to bet on Chisora or Fury going ahead either. All ploy to increase tickets for Chisora v TBA, Saunders v TBA and Gavin v Skeete!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:45 pm

He's desperate to impress Eddie..

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:51 pm

Warren makes Hennessey cards look like 90s Don King cards

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:52 pm

If you remember the 90s...You never lived through it...

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:59 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If you remember the 90s...You never lived through it...


I get acid flashbacks.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:05 pm

I get acid reflux..

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Post by Adam D Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:07 pm

catchweight wrote:I wouldnt like to bet on Chisora or Fury going ahead either. All ploy to increase tickets for Chisora v TBA, Saunders v TBA and Gavin v Skeete!

Bit harsh on Fury!

He didn't pull out of a fight with Del!

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Post by rob-glos Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:12 pm

No, he pulled out of a fight with Ustinov

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Post by hampo17 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:12 pm

rob-glos wrote:No, he pulled out of a fight with Ustinov

Pulled out for a pretty good reason as well.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:15 pm

Can't say all this time without a Fury fight has been tough to take....

and I like taking tough things

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:17 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Can't say all this time without a Fury fight has been tough to take....

and I like taking tough things
I agree, I'm as upset by Fury's lack of activity as I am about Jason Orange* leaving Take That

*For the kidz out there, he's the one who wasn't Gary, Robbie, the little one or the one with the lisp

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:22 pm

You seem to know a lot about them...

Your favorite song no doubt is...It only takes a minute..

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:26 pm

My wife loves them...and "it only takes a minute"? I'm not doin' it three times!

My favourite Take That song is whichever is the shortest or the one they'll sing just before they decided to jointly shoot themselves on stage in what I will forever refer to ask the greatest suicide pact ever...until STRONGBACK and STEFFAN decided to kill themselves

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

Take that...Reminds me of the good old days with a whip in my hand and a red head tied to the bed....


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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

hampo171 wrote:
rob-glos wrote:No, he pulled out of a fight with Ustinov

Pulled out for a pretty good reason as well.

When he realised Ustinov was the same size and won't be intimidated by his antics. He was in the Chechnya war as a sniper and won 'The Order of Bravery' ffs. Must have seen some bad stuff.


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Post by Guest Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:34 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Take that...Reminds me of the good old days with a whip in my hand and a red head tied to the bed....

Always wondered where Mick Hucknall had disappeared to

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:39 pm

Not sure Warren could survive another fiasco..

If this goes bollox up...Who'll trust him again to deliver !!

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:44 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:I think Eubank will avoid the fight.

He'll be like Kell Brook (up until last month) and avoid the big fights for years.

Except Kell didn't actively avoid big fights.

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Post by rob-glos Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:16 pm

hampo171 wrote:
rob-glos wrote:No, he pulled out of a fight with Ustinov

Pulled out for a pretty good reason as well.


Didn't say it was for a bad reason...

I reckon a broken hand is a decent reason too though.

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Post by rob-glos Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:20 pm

So Eubank Jr. has responded on Twitter saying he won't be rushed into signing a contract until his management team approve it. 

Which seems reasonable. 

Except they've had it for weeks according to Frank's interview earlier. 

This comes down to future TV rights, Warren said it himself. 
I think they got a little bit burnt by Frampton, he's won a world title and now he's a free agent again. 

Don't think Boxnation/Warren would be prepared to risk Eubank winning, talking the belts and then going off to Matchroom. 

Similar shenanigans to the K2 contracts with their rematch clauses and future promotional rights etc.

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Post by DuransHorse Thu 25 Sep 2014, 8:12 pm

The bjs IFL rant on this was something else. Made Froch and Groves look loved up.

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Sep 2014, 9:54 pm

Boxing seemingly lives in a strange ethical and legal world all of its own on occasions. Can you imagine if a music promoter said he had the Rolling Stones appearing at his festival and promoted the event and sold tickets based on their appearance, only for it to turn out he had no actual agreement in place for them to appear. He would get sued into oblivion. In boxing we just accept it as par for the course.

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Post by rob-glos Thu 25 Sep 2014, 9:56 pm

The music promoter also enforces a clause in the contract preventing the Rolling Stones playing at any other venues....

When you change the context Boxing looks as mad as a box of frogs!

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Post by hampo17 Thu 25 Sep 2014, 11:04 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
rob-glos wrote:No, he pulled out of a fight with Ustinov

Pulled out for a pretty good reason as well.

When he realised Ustinov was the same size and won't be intimidated by his antics. He was in the Chechnya war as a sniper and won 'The Order of Bravery' ffs. Must have seen some bad stuff.


Not sure whether you don't remember why he pulled out, or you're just being daft Wink

Anyway, I've done some digging on this and a few places are reporting that this fight was never agreed and Warren announced it to boost ticket sales in the hope that the public reaction would force Eubank JR to sign. After his recent from I wouldn't put this past him, the other story doing the rounds is that Eubank Sr has been negotiating with Matchroom, he wanted Barry to handle his sons career however apparently an agreement has been reached and it is a very real possibility that Eubank Jr could sign with the Hearns.

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Post by hazharrison Fri 26 Sep 2014, 1:01 pm

IFL shouldn't be pointing cameras at the likes BJS if all they're going to record is a load of homophobic gibberish.

Steve Bunce wrote a decent column this week on this issue (in the Independent).

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Post by jimdig Fri 26 Sep 2014, 2:57 pm

catchweight wrote:Classic Frank
In a nutshell.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 26 Sep 2014, 10:04 pm

hazharrison wrote:IFL shouldn't be pointing cameras at the likes BJS if all they're going to record is a load of homophobic gibberish.

Steve Bunce wrote a decent column this week on this issue (in the Independent).

Just watched it. It's all very well being edgy and street or whatever the current appropriate word is fir shoving a camera in someone's face. It's another thing taking the decision to publish it. Irresponsible.

Clearly Saunders' management shouldn't let him anywhere near someone with a camera, but it doesn't look like his management are any better. All a bit 1980's really.

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Post by tunes666 Sat 27 Sep 2014, 10:22 am

hazharrison wrote:IFL shouldn't be pointing cameras at the likes BJS if all they're going to record is a load of homophobic gibberish.

Steve Bunce wrote a decent column this week on this issue (in the Independent).

Yeah I think he came across as a bit of a thick dinosaur.. needs a urgent PR clean up..

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Post by catchweight Sat 27 Sep 2014, 10:54 am

What did Saunders say?

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Post by milkyboy Sat 27 Sep 2014, 1:27 pm

Pretty much as haz said. A load of homophobic gibberish. Just rambled on and on calling Eubank a variety of words which you would be familiar with but aren't considered socially acceptable in the 21st century.

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Post by WelshDevilRob Sun 28 Sep 2014, 3:14 pm

Farcical situation. Contracts not agreed and they have a press conference - ridiculous!

Hopefully, the fight can still happen. Can't see where this World title-shot for BJS, is going to magically appear from.

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