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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:21 pm

big ask for Sale in today's sunny cauldron of light and noise!

i'm watching. anyone else?

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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:24 pm

amazing bit of skill by lopez. he just on the run, chipped the ball (which was on the ground having been dropped) up with his foot into his hands! best piece of wendyball i've seen since Zebo's try.

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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:33 pm

brilliant score by abendanon. started by jonathan davies in his own 22.

boring rugby by top14 sides!?!?!?! at least they are willing to attack from anywhere on the pitch. which is more than can be said for many sides this weekend.

but then if you're not a top14 side its fine to be boring, then it's called having your tactics spot on picard

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Post by SecretFly Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:40 pm

???  Quins...I'm going to tell the doc you aren't taking the pills at the right times Wink

How many times have the lethal Clermont won the HEC?  

No - better question.  How many times have they looked like winning it - were the bookies favourites to win it - and didn't win it?

The competition - any competition - is about winning it.  And yes, that's a tactical gameplan that stetches through many games and isn't designed to make the crowds go OOH! Ah!!!  
New Zealand make the crowd go OOH! factor - but they also win things with their OOH factor which make them the draw they are.


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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:40 pm

seymour at 7 having blinder winning turnovers.

good contest so far.

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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:43 pm

SecretFly wrote:???  Quins...I'm going to tell the doc you aren't taking the pills at the right times Wink

How many times have the lethal Clermont won the HEC?  

No - better question.  How many times have they looked like winning it - were the bookies favourites to win it - and didn't win it?

The competition - any competition - is about winning it.  And yes, that's a tactical gameplan that stetches through many games and isn't designed to make the crowds go OOH!  New Zealand make the crowd go OOH! - but they also win things with their OOH which make them the draw they are.
talk about double standards. i have lost count of the number of times i have head the boring label applied to t14 teams and the t14 generally. yet who are the last 2 winners and 3 of the last 4 finalists in HC?

yup. top14 sides.

so as i said. HUGE double standard from people who never even watch the games just rely on urban mythology to justify the slur.

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Post by whocares Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:51 pm

Toulon dont play hurrah rugby and they win things. Hell even Clermont is moving a bit from barbarians style. Today its different, they need the 5 points.

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Post by SecretFly Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:52 pm

quinsforever wrote:
SecretFly wrote:???  Quins...I'm going to tell the doc you aren't taking the pills at the right times Wink

How many times have the lethal Clermont won the HEC?  

No - better question.  How many times have they looked like winning it - were the bookies favourites to win it - and didn't win it?

The competition - any competition - is about winning it.  And yes, that's a tactical gameplan that stetches through many games and isn't designed to make the crowds go OOH!  New Zealand make the crowd go OOH! - but they also win things with their OOH which make them the draw they are.
talk about double standards. i have lost count of the number of times i have head the boring label applied to t14 teams and the t14 generally. yet who are the last 2 winners and 3 of the last 4 finalists in HC?

yup. top14 sides.

so as i said. HUGE double standard from people who never even watch the games just rely on urban mythology to justify the slur.

Clermont (TOP14) didn't win against Toulon (TOP14).  Toulon won because they weren't Clermont.  They stifled Clermont's 'talents' - like many of the winners do... So yeah, there's a place for Toulon and a place for Clermont in the Top 14. But they don't play carbon copy rugby.  
Besides, many English based observers would share the view that French rugby is forward dominated - certainly going by my years of experience in this place! - and it's mostly English based fans who don't take a shine to that kind of game (*cough* Munster) - surprisingly so too since they've had their greatest successes with the game and had a big hand in perfecting the methodology of it.

So Double Standards?  Yep - they get around.  They're well travelled Wink

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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:54 pm

cough munster is right fly!

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Post by SecretFly Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:55 pm

So you like their style now, quins? Whistle The Top 14/Martin Johnson/Toulon Way Wink

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Post by Biltong Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:58 pm

Twice already Fofana had an overlap on the outside of him and chose to pass to the inside, two lost opportunities
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Post by Biltong Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:22 pm

Clermont's decision making on attack is extremely poor
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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:24 pm

sale scrum half cliff having a bit of a shocker today...missed tackle on abendanon for try...couple of really poor kicks from hand where there was not even a chase.

unfortunately it looks like sale are running out of juice and ideas.

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Post by quinsforever Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:25 pm

Biltong wrote:Clermont's decision making on attack is extremely poor
fofana seems to have forgotten how to pass. wierd.

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Post by SecretFly Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:50 pm

He's practicing the Munster Way for bigger games to come, quins... Wink

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