Borg or Ibrahimovic
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Borg or Ibrahimovic
Hello
Has anyone seen this?
Apparently Ibra was a bit miffed that some Swedish dude ranked Borg ahead of him in the greatest sporting Swede's of all time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30589052
I like Ibra. I think he's a great footballer. A fantastic player - better than any English attacking player since.. well probably ever. But greater than Borg?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You arrogant fool, how dare you!!!
Borg was a phenom.. the ice man, cool as a cucumber.. and he didn't even need to try.
So what do y'all make of this?
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Has anyone seen this?
Apparently Ibra was a bit miffed that some Swedish dude ranked Borg ahead of him in the greatest sporting Swede's of all time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30589052
I like Ibra. I think he's a great footballer. A fantastic player - better than any English attacking player since.. well probably ever. But greater than Borg?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You arrogant fool, how dare you!!!
Borg was a phenom.. the ice man, cool as a cucumber.. and he didn't even need to try.
So what do y'all make of this?
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
I can see why Zlatan was annoyed when you compare what the pair have won but then again i always preffered Henrik Larsson so i have no issue with Borg over Ibra. Realistically Ibra has won everything he could bar International trophies and that's cos Sweden suck in general whilst Borg has won everything but US & Aussie Open
Things Zlatan has won:
Ajax
Eredivisie (2): 2001–02, 2003–04
KNVB Cup (1): 2001–02
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2002
Juventus
Serie A (2): 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal)
Internazionale
Serie A (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Supercoppa Italiana (2): 2006, 2008
Barcelona
La Liga (1): 2009–10
Supercopa de España (2): 2009, 2010
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009
Milan
Serie A (1): 2010–11
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2011
Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1 (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Trophée des champions (2): 2013, 2014
Coupe de la Ligue (1): 2013–14
Individual
Golden Foot (1): 2012
FIFA Puskás Award (1): 2013
FIFA FIFPro World XI (1): 2013
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2007, 2009, 2013
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Euro 2012 Man of the Match: Sweden vs France
UEFA Euro 2008 Man of the Match: Greece vs Sweden
UEFA Euro 2004 Man of the Match: Italy vs Sweden
UEFA Champions League 2012-13: Most assists [75]
ESM Team of the Year (4): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Team of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Top Goalscorer (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Serie A Top Scorer (2): 2009, 2012
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (5): 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012
Serie A Footballer of the Year (3): 2008, 2009, 2011
Serie A Team of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
Supercoppa Italiana 2011: Man of the Match
Serie A Player of the Month: January 2012
Guldbollen (9): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
Jerringpriset (1): 2007
Swedish Male Athlete of the Year (2): 2007, 2010
Things Borg has won:
Career titles 68 (including 4 doubles titles)
French Open (1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981)
Wimbledon (1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980)
Davis Cup (1975)
ITF World Champion: 1978, 1979, 1980
ATP Player of the Year: 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980
Things Zlatan has won:
Ajax
Eredivisie (2): 2001–02, 2003–04
KNVB Cup (1): 2001–02
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2002
Juventus
Serie A (2): 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal)
Internazionale
Serie A (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Supercoppa Italiana (2): 2006, 2008
Barcelona
La Liga (1): 2009–10
Supercopa de España (2): 2009, 2010
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009
Milan
Serie A (1): 2010–11
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2011
Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1 (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Trophée des champions (2): 2013, 2014
Coupe de la Ligue (1): 2013–14
Individual
Golden Foot (1): 2012
FIFA Puskás Award (1): 2013
FIFA FIFPro World XI (1): 2013
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2007, 2009, 2013
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Euro 2012 Man of the Match: Sweden vs France
UEFA Euro 2008 Man of the Match: Greece vs Sweden
UEFA Euro 2004 Man of the Match: Italy vs Sweden
UEFA Champions League 2012-13: Most assists [75]
ESM Team of the Year (4): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Team of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Top Goalscorer (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Serie A Top Scorer (2): 2009, 2012
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (5): 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012
Serie A Footballer of the Year (3): 2008, 2009, 2011
Serie A Team of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
Supercoppa Italiana 2011: Man of the Match
Serie A Player of the Month: January 2012
Guldbollen (9): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
Jerringpriset (1): 2007
Swedish Male Athlete of the Year (2): 2007, 2010
Things Borg has won:
Career titles 68 (including 4 doubles titles)
French Open (1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981)
Wimbledon (1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980)
Davis Cup (1975)
ITF World Champion: 1978, 1979, 1980
ATP Player of the Year: 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
Borg was a global superstar and the best tennis player in the world. I don't think Zlatan has ever been considered the absolute best as Messi and Ronaldo have both clearly outshined him. I don't know why Zlatan would be peed as Borg is considered one of the handful of best tennis players in history and again I don't think Zlatan as great as he is can make the same boast about football. Great footballer, and absolute legend but Borg is more accomplished and was a bigger phenom in terms of appeal during the 70s than Zlatan is, he was an absolute rock star globally.
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
The fact that Borg is considered so highly in the sporting world 30 years after he retired shows the impact he had.
Ibra is superb. Technically amazing, particularly given his size, and is in a group amongst the best strikers in the world over the last couple of decades, but he will not be spoken of with the same reverance as Borg in 30 years time.
Ibra is superb. Technically amazing, particularly given his size, and is in a group amongst the best strikers in the world over the last couple of decades, but he will not be spoken of with the same reverance as Borg in 30 years time.
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
Is there anyone out there, tennis fan or not, who has never heard of Borg? He has to be among the most iconic sportsman in history and the greatest export Sweden has ever produced.
I lived through his era and he deserves the recognition he has received and then some. Im sorry to confess that I have never even heard of Zlatan (hang my head)
I lived through his era and he deserves the recognition he has received and then some. Im sorry to confess that I have never even heard of Zlatan (hang my head)
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
Yes probably millions HN, many won't have heard of Feds or Nadal I am sure.
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
LuvSports! wrote:Yes probably millions HN, many won't have heard of Feds or Nadal I am sure.
You are right they haven't so that observation does not upset me LS I was as big a Borg fan as I am Nadal
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
Is it really a contest?
Borg still stands in probably the top five tennis players of all time and he retired over thirty years ago. On the other hand I honestly would not put Ibrahimovic in my all-timall-time top twenty footballers never mind top five.
Borg still stands in probably the top five tennis players of all time and he retired over thirty years ago. On the other hand I honestly would not put Ibrahimovic in my all-timall-time top twenty footballers never mind top five.
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Re: Borg or Ibrahimovic
Agree Craig. Ibrahimovic wouldn't be in the top 50 footballers of all time. So how can he be compared to Borg who is top 5 (at worst) in his sport?
Merry Christmas all by the way.
Merry Christmas all by the way.
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