Sky/Hearn & 4 PPV events mooted for 2015.

Heard a strong rumour that Matchroom and Sky have 4 PPV events contracted to happen this year, I know they delivered the 2 last year with the show at Wembley and Bellew v Cleverly. Anyone want to take a punt at 4 PPV shows Hearn and Sky can sell this year, have a horrible feeling Campbell vs Coyle will be one of them.

Froch/Chavez
Campbell/Coyle
Quigg/Frampton
Khan/Brook.. possibly ?

Cheers, Rodders

Froch vs Chavez

Degale vs Groves II

Joshua vs Fury

Khan vs Brook

That doesn't look like a bad PPV lineup?

Awaiting with baited breathe Strongies response. Honestly can't wait for the delectable insight that makes the writings of Einstein made to look factually incorrect and full of holes.

Joshua v Fury is unlikely to happen in my opinion.

If Fury happens to win (highly unlikely but I can only hope), then he wouldnt take on Joshua and pad out with people he can beat easily.

If he loses, possibly but I have a feeling he will take some easier fights first.

And he is with Mick Hennessey who works with Boxnation which makes it even less likely.

I could see Haye vs Joshua but lets not even go there!

Mick Hennessey who works

Adam, you should know better than to make factually incorrect/slanderous statements on here!

I don't think a single fight mentioned is a possibility apart from Froch against Chavez which i'll believe when I see it.

Martin Gethin could be a big stumbling block in the Campbell/Coyle fight if that one gets finalised whereas the others I just don't see happening, too many egos involved.

If there's 4 then at least 3 will be dross.

He'd need to deliver Brook-Khan and, maybe Quigg-Frampton might be PPV, but it'd need a decent undercard.

Yes there's Froch-Chavez, but in my mind that's seperate from essentially domestic 'Matchroom' PPVs. Good if it takes one of the slots though.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I don't think a single fight mentioned is a possibility apart from Froch against Chavez which i'll believe when I see it.

Martin Gethin could be a big stumbling block in the Campbell/Coyle fight if that one gets finalised whereas the others I just don't see happening, too many egos involved.

Nah can't see it, Hearn and his team must believe he is on the slide or a spent force. No chance Matchroom would want to heavily jeopardise making a few easy quid in a match easy to make in the Summer outdoors.

Warren had apparently Gethin lined up to fight young Catterrall until he was gazumped by Matchroom.

Cheers, Rodders

They thought the same about Derry Matthews and they were right until he landed that one big shot, Coyle is vulnerable so can't take anything for granted.

Dont see how Froch vs Chavez is PPV unless it has a stellar undercard on. Martinez gave Chavez a pasting for 11 rounds, he hasn't fought in over a year and is probably not in great shape, I personally think Froch will batter him.

Khan vs Brook would be worthy of PPV, I would love to see that fight

Groves vs Degale isn't unless they both have world titles by that time

I think people (including me) will be a lot more wary about separating with their hard earned money for domestic dustups with needle, this time around

Brook to appear part of the Froch/Chavez PPV in March apparently, across two venues. Dan Ion or Paulie Mallignaggi the names doing the rounds for his opponent.

Cheers, Rodders

PM would be a reasonable enough fight. Bradley would be more interesting.

Why do they have to book 4 PPV dates this far in advance, we're bound to have at least 2 crappy ones that should be on sky sports.

Exactly, like Bell-Clev.

To be fair Hearn has apparently been in talks with Haymon so something more could come about than the ones we've already mentioned.

My list was perfectly reasonable and is by far and away the best. Gold star for me

BoxingFan88 wrote:Dont see how Froch vs Chavez is PPV unless it has a stellar undercard on. Martinez gave Chavez a pasting for 11 rounds, he hasn't fought in over a year and is probably not in great shape, I personally think Froch will batter him.

Khan vs Brook would be worthy of PPV, I would love to see that fight

Groves vs Degale isn't unless they both have world titles by that time

I think people (including me) will be a lot more wary about separating with their hard earned money for domestic dustups with needle, this time around

Froch vs Groves is definitely PPV, it shouldn't be but no fight should but he's the highest profile boxer in the country now and is fighting a name synonymous within boxing and for all his faults is a big draw because of it.

How can Campbell-Coyle be PPV ???....

No one has heard of them.....and neither has fought at World level..

Not a chance..

I'd pay for Frampton-Quigg...............But Barry will probably get in the way of that...........We all know what he's like....

Chavez - Froch will be a 4am start.............Will people purchase a fight like that with Chavez in it ?? Not sure !!

Groves-Degale is a sure thing PPV..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can Campbell-Coyle be PPV ???....

No one has heard of them.....and neither has fought at World level..

Not a chance..

I'd pay for Frampton-Quigg...............But Barry will probably get in the way of that...........We all know what he's like....

Chavez - Froch will be a 4am start.............Will people purchase a fight like that with Chavez in it ?? Not sure !!

Groves-Degale is a sure thing PPV..

Campbell-Coyle will be as poor a PPV as Bell-Clev. Domestic dust-up, that's it.

Even Frampton-Quigg is not that many notches up from Bell-Clev. Would much rather pay for Frampton-LSC, but of course Eddie can't deliver that.

Chavez-Froch will need a co-headliner to sell, though I doubt either ego will allow it.

I like Malignaggi, a good boxing brain and unfortunate not to have a the power which matches his skills.
But Brook should be more ambitious than this. We have been exposed to 2 main events featuring Malignaggi and he came short both times.
Agree Groves-Degale is no way ppv without a belt. Worse than Cleverly-Bellew.

Agree Groves-Degale is no way ppv without a belt. Worse than Cleverly-Bellew.

Guy who took Froch life and death
Ex-Olympic gold medallist, on a big run of form

vs

A fat liverpudlian nobjockey who's barely at euro level
A guy who's not even at euro level and has no work rate or chin or much ability in general

You effing twonk

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can Campbell-Coyle be PPV ???....

No one has heard of them.....and neither has fought at World level..

Not a chance..

I'd pay for Frampton-Quigg...............But Barry will probably get in the way of that...........We all know what he's like....

Chavez - Froch will be a 4am start.............Will people purchase a fight like that with Chavez in it ?? Not sure !!

Groves-Degale is a sure thing PPV..

Campbell-Coyle will be as poor a PPV as Bell-Clev.  Domestic dust-up, that's it.

Even Frampton-Quigg is not that many notches up from Bell-Clev. Would much rather pay for Frampton-LSC, but of course Eddie can't deliver that.

Chavez-Froch will need a co-headliner to sell, though I doubt either ego will allow it.

You've got a point re Quigg-Frampton ..................By far the most appetising fight and yet little men are a hard sell and Frampton is being hidden away on Boxnation...

I don't feel any fight should really be able to command PPV all on its own, especially not one like Froch-Chavez which, while pretty big, isn't exactly an in-demand fight. I wouldn't even like the idea of Khan-Brook being PPV if the undercard was complete dross. Headliners are one thing but I think the quality of the undercard is a big factor in determining whether or not PPV is justifiable.

I'd struggle to see how Sky can pencil in four PPV slots for the calendar year without a couple of them being absolutely appalling, to be honest. They just haven't got the stable to make four PPV shows judging by their recent attitudes towards matchmaking. Let's just say that we (or Matchroom) do get lucky and manage to make Froch-Chavez, Khan-Brook, Frampton-Quigg and Degale-Groves II at various points in 2015. This isn't the days of Don King's magical undercards where you'd have fights like Norris-Brown, Nelson-Fenech or Trinidad-Campas about three fights down the bill - Hearn and the combatants are almost certainly going to want those fights to be headliners with the whole promotion for PPV built around them.

This makes it pretty likely that we're going to get stuck with some pretty average undercards (by PPV standards) unless Hearn and Haymon can work something big out in the coming months, which could happen in fairness. One of those fights at the top (and it's doubtful we'll get any more than two of those four in any case) and the rest of the big names mentioned fighting safer bets as a way of making sure their potential PPV date doesn't go up in smoke. I was actually a bit disappointed with the undercard Hearn produced for the Wembley bill and felt it was a chance wasted given the Stateside exposure the fight got. It certainly didn't become the big-time boxing extravaganza which was being talked up beforehand, anyway.

Sadly, it looks as if the God-awful Cleverly-Bellew PPV show did a little better than we might have liked if these rumours for 2015 are true. I've got no issue in a show being PPV if it really is a stacked card (I mean properly stacked, not Hearn's very loose definition of stacked) and there are a couple of genuinely intriguing 50:50s there which are truly world level, but there's virtually no chance of us getting that on any of the four occasions if that's really how often Sky are planning on rolling the PPV format out this year.

Could something like Mayweather vs Pac be considered one of the 4PPVs? Or are we talking matchroom only? Or could Matchroom promote this in the UK?

Fury vs Klitschko?
Murray vs GGG?

88Chris05 wrote:I don't feel any fight should really be able to command PPV all on its own, especially not one like Froch-Chavez which, while pretty big, isn't exactly an in-demand fight. I wouldn't even like the idea of Khan-Brook being PPV if the undercard was complete dross. Headliners are one thing but I think the quality of the undercard is a big factor in determining whether or not PPV is justifiable.

I'd struggle to see how Sky can pencil in four PPV slots for the calendar year without a couple of them being absolutely appalling, to be honest. They just haven't got the stable to make four PPV shows judging by their recent attitudes towards matchmaking. Let's just say that we (or Matchroom) do get lucky and manage to make Froch-Chavez, Khan-Brook, Frampton-Quigg and Degale-Groves II at various points in 2015. This isn't the days of Don King's magical undercards where you'd have fights like Norris-Brown, Nelson-Fenech or Trinidad-Campas about three fights down the bill - Hearn and the combatants are almost certainly going to want those fights to be headliners with the whole promotion for PPV built around them.

This makes it pretty likely that we're going to get stuck with some pretty average undercards (by PPV standards) unless Hearn and Haymon can work something big out in the coming months, which could happen in fairness. One of those fights at the top (and it's doubtful we'll get any more than two of those four in any case) and the rest of the big names mentioned fighting safer bets as a way of making sure their potential PPV date doesn't go up in smoke. I was actually a bit disappointed with the undercard Hearn produced for the Wembley bill and felt it was a chance wasted given the Stateside exposure the fight got. It certainly didn't become the big-time boxing extravaganza which was being talked up beforehand, anyway.

Sadly, it looks as if the God-awful Cleverly-Bellew PPV show did a little better than we might have liked if these rumours for 2015 are true. I've got no issue in a show  being PPV if it really is a stacked card (I mean properly stacked, not Hearn's very loose definition of stacked) and there are a couple of genuinely intriguing 50:50s there which are truly world level, but there's virtually no chance of us getting that on any of the four occasions if that's really how often Sky are planning on rolling the PPV format out this year.

Couldn't agree more Mate.................Well put....................But I presume Clev - Bellew 2 did good figures......

End of the day Hearn works on the assumption that If you take your chick out somewhere nice....the first round is probably going to cost you  two thirds of a decent bill of Boxing.........

It's almost as depressing as Catchweight..

Murray and GGG aren't big enough names in the UK..............Adam.

I'd pay to watch Fury - Wlad though..............Win both ways..................Fury wins the heavy division gets rid of a boring stiff.................Wlad wins we get to see Fury slapped out !!

Couldn't imagine paying to watch a fight at 4am in the morning.

Coyle Campbell for the lightweight championship of Hull? Who's going to pay for that.

Unless it's proven, world class PPV heavyweights like David Haye, I don't want to know. !

Jamie Mcdonell has got a unification coming up. Anyone willing to part with £15 for that one?

Don't think Jamie's family are prepared to do that

Hammersmith harrier wrote:They thought the same about Derry Matthews and they were right until he landed that one big shot, Coyle is vulnerable so can't take anything for granted.

I trained with Gethin everyday for almost two years and he didn't have great power. I haven't followed his career particularly closely since I knew him but he's certainly matured since then, though I'm not sure he can stop Coyle.

He's a fit, disciplined, and tidy fighter, who will make domestic peers work, win or lose.

I can see Hearn being on his way to the master of the rubbish ppv. When he started out, his mantra was that only certain fights would be ppv. Really he is going down the route of setting ppv quotas based on what he can think he can milk. This is why Bellew/Cleverly was ppv. It was originally a support act for a newly crowned Brook to fight on ppv with a "stacked" card but was scrambled and hyped into a ppv headliner when Brook got injured. Campbell v Coyle would be the pits of a ppv but I cant say I would be surprised and it is all but set for the summer. No emphasis on ppv quality fights, its about squeezing the max out of the ppv machine. How long before any sort of half decent All British dust up with some manufactured needle and cheap face to face Ringside special becomes a ppv event?

Should Eddie be doing 4 PPV's I suspect 3 of them will be glorified domestic cards.

Hearn only has one proper PPV fighter in Froch on his books. Eddie can kid some of the people some of the time...........

Could Quigg Vs Rigo be one?

3fingers wrote:Could Quigg Vs Rigo be one?

Not if Eddie has anything to do with it.

He hasnt got the fights lined up. He has merely decided there will be 4 ppv events. Froch and Book are pretty surefire to have a ppv fight this year. After that its anyones guess. Even 4 ppv slots may turn into more if Hearn feels he can pull it off.

Coxy001 wrote:

Agree Groves-Degale is no way ppv without a belt. Worse than Cleverly-Bellew.

Guy who took Froch life and death
Ex-Olympic gold medallist, on a big run of form

vs

A fat liverpudlian nobjockey who's barely at euro level
A guy who's not even at euro level and has no work rate or chin or much ability in general

You effing twonk

My hatred for Bellew is far greater than yours mate. The point I meant was that at least there was a former belt holder, where as Groves-Degale is just two contenders.
Yes Bellew and Cleverly are dire in terms of PPV quality, but thats not the point I was making.

aja424 wrote:

Coxy001 wrote:

Agree Groves-Degale is no way ppv without a belt. Worse than Cleverly-Bellew.

Guy who took Froch life and death
Ex-Olympic gold medallist, on a big run of form

vs

A fat liverpudlian nobjockey who's barely at euro level
A guy who's not even at euro level and has no work rate or chin or much ability in general

You effing twonk

My hatred for Bellew is far greater than yours mate. The point I meant was that at least there was a former belt holder, where as Groves-Degale is just two contenders.
Yes Bellew and Cleverly are dire in terms of PPV quality, but thats not the point I was making.

If Mayweather vs Pacquiao was without a belt would it take any gloss off of the fight? My answer: Absolutely none. Fans have stopped give two turds about if there is a belt on the line as they get gifted out by the corrupt belt organisations. Only time I ever give a monkeys about what belt is on the line is when there's a euro-level domestic (or overseas guy that you just like to see do well because he was one of 47 kids and had all of them die by the time he was 12, left to fend for himself etc) and it's a bit of a fairytale "boy done good" sort of story.

Degale vs Groves is a superior match in terms of that they're world level, better technically and would generate far more interest than the Bellew vs Clev fight in terms of gate receipt/total attendance/PPV numbers - I would put everything I own (and the missus) on the line that that'd be the case if they were to rematch.

BoxingFan88 wrote:Dont see how Froch vs Chavez is PPV unless it has a stellar undercard on. Martinez gave Chavez a pasting for 11 rounds, he hasn't fought in over a year and is probably not in great shape, I personally think Froch will batter him.

Khan vs Brook would be worthy of PPV, I would love to see that fight

Groves vs Degale isn't unless they both have world titles by that time

I think people (including me) will be a lot more wary about separating with their hard earned money for domestic dustups with needle, this time around

I think Froch Chavez and Degale Groves possible fight would be on PPV, dont see where the other 2 are coming from, I've read that Brook has to fight a mandatory fight which would probably take place in april, so a khan fight in the next 2/3 months is unlikely and they would want it to be in the summer.

The rumours are that Brook will be fighting his mandatory next which would make sense and free him up for a big fight in the summer.

Froch/Chavez - yep - tied in with Brook v someone
Campbell/Coyle - absolutely not
Quigg/Frampton - maybe, I wouldn't be too annoyed if it had a strong co-feature
Khan/Brook.. possibly ? - no problem with that being PPV