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Is Mark McCall the first coach to win both the ML and Premiership?

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Post by Notch Sat 28 May 2011, 8:39 pm

Ulster, 2006, Celtic League winners under Mark McCall
Saracens, 2011, English Premiership winners

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me whether this has been done before?

Interesting story, McCalls. Started off as an Assistant Coach. Stepped into the shoes of a highly charismatic and influential South African coach and took the team he inherited to glory. That was in Ulster in 2005/2006. The story of Saracens victory is deja vu all over again...
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Post by WillyGilly Sun 29 May 2011, 1:12 am

Next stop Ireland? ...
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Post by Notch Sun 29 May 2011, 1:22 am

Are you kidding me Willy? You really must be joking. He was a disaster of a Head Coach at Ulster; Good assistant. If Saracens have any sense they'll bring in someone with a higher profile and let him focus on his role as No. 2...

I think he is a better coach now of course, he was given a job at Ulster he simply wasn't ready for or capable of doing despite his initial league win.

I want to see him succeed with a team he's built, not inherited. Then we'll see.
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sun 29 May 2011, 7:53 am

Quite an achievement nonetheless :applause:

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Post by red_stag Sun 29 May 2011, 10:47 am

There is an element of right place right time. I don't think any of the provinces nor the national team would consider him a candidate if they were hiring.

But fair play rugby is a results driven game and he's got 2 League wins on his CV
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 29 May 2011, 10:57 am

Don't be fooled by him being in charge at Saracens.

Despite Dr Venter not being physically present all of the time, it is his hand steering the ship I believe. McCall is a very able number 2, and has been a good front man for Sarries this season, but I remain to be convinced that he could lead an international side.

Excellent achievement with his Magners and Aviva wins however.
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Post by Notch Sun 29 May 2011, 12:04 pm

Oh, no doubt he's a natural assistant coach Pete.
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Post by Glas a du Sun 29 May 2011, 12:11 pm

Who else was in the running? I mean how many coaches have worked in both competitions?
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Post by Notch Sun 29 May 2011, 12:19 pm

That's what I'm curios to know Glas. Mike Ruddock coached both Leinster and Worcester. Not too many other candidates....
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Post by Glas a du Sun 29 May 2011, 12:37 pm

Phill Davies I suppose.
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