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I absolutely despise the weasel in RL but have to say Tevez is up there this season as one of the best strikers in Europe.

So do we think that Juventus can go on and win the Champions League then? I think they are certainly a force and are capable, will be interesting if they get Real or Bayern or even Barcelona in the quarters.

I really hope last night puts to bed any questions over Joe Hart's ability. The kid is top-drawer.

Azzy wrote:I really hope last night puts to bed any questions over Joe Hart's ability. The kid is top-drawer.

Good keeper but Massively overated by the English press, not a patch on David Seaman. He has been made to look better because of the lack of quality Keepers England have had since Seaman. Light years behind De Gea, Courtious and Lloris. I'd say he is just behind the likes of Howard and Guzman in the Premier League.

EMBU strikes again

I can even this bias & delusionalness out

Fernandinho would walk into the United midfield

Azzy wrote:EMBU strikes again

Says the ABU.

Whether you agree or not, Hart is not as good as you think he is. Over confident which is his downfall, like I said he is a good keeper but it's madness to compare him with the top Keepers in the world because it's clear to see he is not at their level. Like I said in my previous post he is in the Howards and Guzans level.

If City want to create a dynasty they need a far better keeper, Schmeichel, VDS, De Gea, Casillas, Buffon, Courtious etc these are the type of keepers they need.

Viva said Hart's performance (10 saves against Messi, Neymar and Suarez) was standard for De Gea (3 or 4 saves against Baines or other PL players).

He also said De Gea is in the top 3 players in the world, which is a lie because the top 3 players in the world are factually C.Ronaldo, Messi, Neuer.

Holymiky wrote:So do we think that Juventus can go on and win the Champions League then? I think they are certainly a force and are capable, will be interesting if they get Real or Bayern or even Barcelona in the quarters.

I don't think they'll win it but they'll certainly give those teams a good home and probably be able to beat one of them. I like Juve I hope to see them return as one of Europe's giants.

Joe Hart isn't world class, but he is very good. Courtois and De Gea probably better, but Hart easily better than the likes of Forster, Lloris (who is massively overrated BTW) and Begovic.

Marky wrote:Viva said Hart's performance (10 saves against Messi, Neymar and Suarez) was standard for De Gea (3 or 4 saves against Baines or other PL players).

He also said De Gea is in the top 3 players in the world, which is a lie because the top 3 players in the world are factually C.Ronaldo, Messi, Neuer.

Most of Hart's saves were straight at him, any pro keeper would deal with them. Stand up tall force the player into a shot, nothing special. Did you see De Gea save against Arsenal the way he clawed it out from the corner and the subtle touch against Sanchez wow that's what you call keeping.

De Gea is in the top 3, I'm probably the only person in the world that doesn't buy into the Neuer hype, just because he comes out of his box and plays for Bayern he is made out to be some godly keeper who has taken keeping to the next level.

Lionel Messi: Joe Hart is a phenomenon.

Damn English Press

Marky wrote:Joe Hart isn't world class, but he is very good. Courtois and De Gea probably better, but Hart easily better than the likes of Forster, Lloris (who is massively overrated BTW) and Begovic.

De Gea and Courtois PROBABLY better than Hart? Are you having a laugh? They're way better than him, Hart is on the level of Guzan and Howard.

Tim Howard is Poopie Viva. There are better championship keepers then him nowadays i don't know why Everton don't play Joel cos he's better then Tim.

I don't really see an argument for DeGea being near the level of Neuer

GSC wrote:Lionel Messi: Joe Hart is a phenomenon.

Damn English Press

Typical arrogance from Messi, just because Messi couldn't score against Hart it don't make Hart a phenomenon. Messi think's too highly of himself, you don't need to be a world class keeper to stop Messi. Hart was on form and more importantly most of the shots were straight at him.

Fernando wrote:Tim Howard is Poopie Viva. There are better championship keepers then him nowadays i don't know why Everton don't play Joel cos he's better then Tim.

Ok his at the level of Joel and Guzan.

Neuer is the best goalkeeper in the world, Dea Gea is great but i wouldn't put him above Courtois for example.

GSC wrote:I don't really see an argument for DeGea being near the level of Neuer

Neither do I, otherwise that would mean De Gea would have to drop down a couple of levels to be on Neuers level.

I don't understand how you gentleman rate Neuer as the best, I have a lot of respect for everyones knowledge on here but I can't agree with that. Neuer is a excellent keeper but I'd take De Gea all day and possibily Courtious.

Yeah id probably have Courtois up for his CL and La Liga exploits. Its one thing saving headers from Andy Carroll, its another facing Messi, Ronaldo, Tia Maria, Neymar etc

Neuer was an integral part of Germany's WC win as well as Bayerns domination.

De Gea sat watching it on the bench, as well as being a mainstay in United's dramatic decline

Holymiky wrote:Neuer is the best goalkeeper in the world, Dea Gea is great but i wouldn't put him above Courtois for example.

3/10 WUM effort must try better.

De Gea is better than Courtious (Who isn't even the best keeper at Chelsea).

I guess Terry is the best CB to have ever played, Azpilicueta the best FB, Fabregas the best CM, Matic the best DM, Hazard the best winger, Costa the best striker and Mourinho the greatest man ever to have lived. Do you believe in Jesus Miky?

Koba wrote:

GSC wrote:Lionel Messi: Joe Hart is a phenomenon.

Damn English Press

Typical arrogance from Messi, just because Messi couldn't score against Hart it don't make Hart a phenomenon. Messi think's too highly of himself, you don't need to be a world class keeper to stop Messi. Hart was on form and more importantly most of the shots were straight at him.

Xavi hyping up Paul Scholes: World Class player recognising ability
Messi hyping up Joe Hart: Arrogant

De Gea doesn't make top 3 keeper let alone top 3 players in the world.

De Gea has reflex shot stopping and that's about it. He's an above average Pepe Reina essentially.

I remember Azzy and Ronny with their "EN-GER-LAAAND" behaviour back in 2011 when we debated De Gea and Hart.

I give up on you WUMS. Let's change the subject.

I really rate De Gea but he's not in Neuer's class. No keeper is. Neuer is at the top. De Gea is in that second tier alongside Courtois, Cech, Buffon and Brian "The Beast" Jensen.

He ain't got Poopie on Brian Jensen

Koba wrote:

Holymiky wrote:Neuer is the best goalkeeper in the world, Dea Gea is great but i wouldn't put him above Courtois for example.

3/10 WUM effort must try better.

De Gea is better than Courtious (Who isn't even the best keeper at Chelsea).

I guess Terry is the best CB to have ever played, Azpilicueta the best FB, Fabregas the best CM, Matic the best DM, Hazard the best winger, Costa the best striker and Mourinho the greatest man ever to have lived. Do you believe in Jesus Miky?

I'm not Wumming.

I am just telling you my opinion, it would be like you saying that Carrick is the best defensive midfielder in the world or Rooney is the greatest man to of ever lived or the best player in the world or something.

I feel you are covering for your own Wumming by accusing me of doing so.

You are acting as if I put a league 2 goalkeeper instead of De Gea when instead I put Courtois who has more than justified why he is better for me.

Holymiky wrote:I feel you are covering for your own Wumming by accusing me of doing so.

Nail. On. Head.

To be fair Viva gave it away when he called Hart worse then Brad Guzan.

All I have to say to you asking about the Chelsea players and Jose Mourinho is that they are all part of the reason why we are top of the league Viva, I don't need to justify anything.

You're probably not WUMMING Miky you're just being a very very biased Chelsea fan. It's like the time you said you think Chelsea can win the league in February, only a WUM or a severley biased Chelsea fan would have said that. Maybe you're the later.

So because im confident in my team, that makes me a WUM?

I said that we COULD win it in February but I’m realistic and know that it would have been difficult. I was confident that we would win the league and I still am.

I don’t have any examples for you but I’m pretty sure you would defend Manchester United until the cows come home just like I would with Chelsea, of course we are going to have a bit of Bias.

I’m pretty sure I wasn’t the only one who said that Courtois is better than De Gea as well.

If you said to me that Carrick was the best DM in the world then I would disagree straight away without hesitation but I would respect the fact that you had said that and listen to your reasoning as to why at the very least.

It's a bit ironic coming from a severely biased United fan

It just seems like you have so much against Chelsea I would just like to know why? Is there any reason why? Or are you just a WUM like you accused me of being?

If a United fan was to say we COULD win the title in Feb so much would have been said, syaing you can win the title is pure arrogance.

If i said Carrick was the best DM in the world, I wouldn't expect anyone to respect my opinion I would fully expect to get ripped.

I have nothing against Chelsea, I don't really see Chelsea as anything if I'm honest it's only because we have a Chelsea fan in this league. Liverpool, City and Arsenal yes but not Chelsea.

To be fair, Chelsea are actually capable of winning the title

GSC wrote:To be fair, Chelsea are actually capable of winning the title

In February?

So no fan is allowed to say that their team can win the title then?

If it was at the start of a season and a Manchester United fan said we COULD win the title then I would be like, yeah that’s true then I would give my opinion as to whether I think they will or not.

What do you mean by not see Chelsea as anything?

Koba wrote:

GSC wrote:To be fair, Chelsea are actually capable of winning the title

In February?

More chance of that than United in any month

It's gone all quiet, anyone here?

Think Viva's time of month has scared everyone off.

Koba wrote:I remember Azzy and Ronny with their "EN-GER-LAAAND" behaviour back in 2011 when we debated De Gea and Hart.

I give up on you WUMS. Let's change the subject.

Strangely, I don't. Wish I did though

Courtois has proven both internationally and in the CL that he's a top keeper. De Gea hasn't had that luxury because he's not the best Spanish keeper and he plays for a much inferior domestic side.

I'm up late of night in tears over United

I go through more Kleenex than Cherries at a gym

I have a pillow with SAFs face on it. I like to whisper "its be ok viva" in a Scottish accent through it

I whisper sweet nothings into my Cristiano Ronaldo poster going "Please come back so i can make sweet love to you over and over again"

Do you need a moment alone Viva?

Holymiky wrote:Do you need a moment alone Viva?

I've been alone since 2013.