Super Saturday, Game 1: Italy v Wales

Griff wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Griff wrote:Minus a few very important players. You mark my words.

That's good though isn't it since it will help bring the benchers up to speed. We'll need them I reckon considering we have England an Oz in our group who have been there, done it, got the t-shirt, etc.

You misunderstand me. I mean we'll be minus some important players for the whole world cup beacuse we'll lose a few to injury during the pre-world cup Ireland bloodbath. So the benchers will be first choice and then we'll have some right old so and so's on the bench

Cardiff Dave wrote:

quinsforever wrote:understandably from your perspective

england france best game for me

best game in the last 10 years in NH rugby

England v France was great, but it was all about how many rather than just winning. Wales v Ireland was different. Yesterday was a bit mad. Enjoyable and I hope it happens again, but still mad.

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Griff wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Griff wrote:Minus a few very important players. You mark my words.

That's good though isn't it since it will help bring the benchers up to speed. We'll need them I reckon considering we have England an Oz in our group who have been there, done it, got the t-shirt, etc.

You misunderstand me. I mean we'll be minus some important players for the whole world cup beacuse we'll lose a few to injury during the pre-world cup Ireland bloodbath. So the benchers will be first choice and then we'll have some right old so and so's on the bench

The same "important players" could get injured next week playing for their clubs.

The Saint wrote:I think Charteris has become as important as Adam Jones used to be to us. Without him I reckon our lineout will fall to sh*t again. That said, Baldwin and AWJ worked really well for us there too. I also think Baldwin is also a good carrier and better than Hibbard on the push in the scrum. Didn't think I'd see the day that Hibbard became surplus to requirements.

maestegmafia wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
The tournament was lost by taking our foot off the gas in the first game. We should have been winning a fifth championship with a fourth Grand Slam in a decade yesterday.

I keep seeing posts like this. Maybe, just maybe England came out after half time and played well? ah no, silly me it was because Wales stopped playing.

Considering Wales played at a higher level in all but the forty minutes in question, You have to agree that Wales took their foot off the gas and cost themselves a grandslam.

Something that they seem to have learnt from well as their hve been consistent improvements since that second half in Cardiff.

The Saint wrote:Yeah back-up centre will likely be Cory Allen. I'd still like to see Roberts and S.Williams start at centre together, JD2 is not a starter for me. The three 10s for the RWC will be the ones who are there now, there's a chance we'll also see Hook come back in (hopefully not) and perhaps O.Williams as an outside bet. I agree on Priestland, I think I've been quite vocal on my reasoning for a while so I won't go back over it.

LondonTiger wrote:

The Saint wrote:Yeah back-up centre will likely be Cory Allen. I'd still like to see Roberts and S.Williams start at centre together, JD2 is not a starter for me. The three 10s for the RWC will be the ones who are there now, there's a chance we'll also see Hook come back in (hopefully not) and perhaps O.Williams as an outside bet. I agree on Priestland, I think I've been quite vocal on my reasoning for a while so I won't go back over it.

Williams is currently expected to be out till November/December.

Steve_rugby wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

I seriously doubt that england would beat Wales if they re-played.

I don't. They would convincingly beat Wales again. They just didn't turn up for the first 40 minutes, once they did, they convincingly beat Wales.

maestegmafia wrote:

Steve_rugby wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
If Ireland replayed Wales next week the result would be the same, Wales would win convincingly again.

Convincingly ? Really ? Do you really believe the garbage you type? Mind you, If England played Wales again next week, the result would be an even bigger convincing win for England.

I seriously doubt that England would beat Wales if they re-played.

Griff wrote:I think if all teams are tied on the same tournament points (8 this year) then they should look to see who has beaten the team at the top.  So congratulations Wales!  Winners of the 2015 6N!

So england get 2014 then

Griff wrote:I think if all teams are tied on the same tournament points (8 this year) then they should look to see who has beaten the team at the top.  So congratulations Wales!  Winners of the 2015 6N!

RubyGuby wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
The tournament was lost by taking our foot off the gas in the first game. We should have been winning a fifth championship with a fourth Grand Slam in a decade yesterday.

I keep seeing posts like this. Maybe, just maybe England came out after half time and played well? ah no, silly me it was because Wales stopped playing.

Considering Wales played at a higher level in all but the forty minutes in question, You have to agree that Wales took their foot off the gas and cost themselves a grandslam.

Something that they seem to have learnt from well as their hve been consistent improvements since that second half in Cardiff.

I thought England bossed this game for the 80 minutes. Apart from an opportunistic try early on we were hanging in there all game. I was actaully dreading the 2nd half as the writing was on the wall. For me this has more to do with many key players playing little rugby, note John Davies, Warburton, Roberts and others, they have had little continuous intensity for 2-3 months. We were undercooked and well off the pace. England were far superior on the day in every department IMO.

GavinDragon wrote:bedford he is not up to it at this level in the scrum.

I was surprised at how poor Rob Evans went against castro. However castro was binding illegally on his arm throughout the first half.

I like Gill as a player and can't understand why no welsh region has picked him up and he is not in the squad more often.

Owen looked like a man determined to get his jersey back

mystiroakey wrote:That final saturday proves we need to change the 6 nations scoring system..because i cant see us seeing that again for ages unless we are forced to playing like that.

maestegmafia wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
The tournament was lost by taking our foot off the gas in the first game. We should have been winning a fifth championship with a fourth Grand Slam in a decade yesterday.

I keep seeing posts like this. Maybe, just maybe England came out after half time and played well? ah no, silly me it was because Wales stopped playing.

Considering Wales played at a higher level in all but the forty minutes in question, You have to agree that Wales took their foot off the gas and cost themselves a grandslam.

Something that they seem to have learnt from well as their hve been consistent improvements since that second half in Cardiff.