Prince Vs Pretty Boy
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Prince Vs Pretty Boy
I've been scouting the internet trying to find opinions on this hypthotetical match up and have struggled to find anything worth reading, so I'm putting this question out to the enlightened members of the board for their opinions..
A hypthotetical match up between Prince Naseem Hamed and Floyd Mayweather at Featherweight, with both fighters performing at there best, who wins and why?!
A hypthotetical match up between Prince Naseem Hamed and Floyd Mayweather at Featherweight, with both fighters performing at there best, who wins and why?!
Cass1234- Posts : 65
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Floyd Mayweather outboxes Nassem. I believe he would floor him a couple times as well.
Although If Floyd got a bit wreckless, he too could touch the canvas. I predict a unamious victory at Super Feather because I doubt Floyd could of been a Featherweight. Perhaps a catch weight could of been arranged.
Although If Floyd got a bit wreckless, he too could touch the canvas. I predict a unamious victory at Super Feather because I doubt Floyd could of been a Featherweight. Perhaps a catch weight could of been arranged.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Nobody could take the power of Naz.
He would beat any top 10 atg featherweight in history including Pep, Nelson and Sanchez.
He would beat any top 10 atg featherweight in history including Pep, Nelson and Sanchez.
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
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He wouldn't beat Floyd. I don't think so. Naseem was a wonderful fighter at his best but Floyd is too schooled for him. Plus back then Floyd could bang too.
Naseem is also much shorter with smaller reach. Floyd too big, too good in my opinion.
What about Nas vs Manny?
Naseem is also much shorter with smaller reach. Floyd too big, too good in my opinion.
What about Nas vs Manny?
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Manny was getting KOED by jabs back when he was a featherweight
what do you think Naz would do to him?
what do you think Naz would do to him?
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Manny was getting KOED by jabs back when he was a featherweight
what do you think Naz would do to him?
No he wasn't.
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Torrecampo and Singsurat at FLYWEIGHT.
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Torrecampo and Singsurat at FLYWEIGHT.
Wrong fight try again.
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
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Torrecampo - KO in 3
Singsurrat - TKO in 3
Marquez - KO in 6
Which one are you on about 1/2 ???
Singsurrat - TKO in 3
Marquez - KO in 6
Which one are you on about 1/2 ???
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Great Featherweight with outstanding power, but against an even better Super-Featherweight with an outstanding defence and better all-round skills. Hamed can't outbox Mayweather so a knockout is needed and I'm struggling to see it. Mayweather by wide-ish decision.
There are plenty of elite fighters that Hamed at his best could beat, but Mayweather is just a bridge too far and a level too high.
There are plenty of elite fighters that Hamed at his best could beat, but Mayweather is just a bridge too far and a level too high.
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Derbymanc wrote:Torrecampo - KO in 3
Singsurrat - TKO in 3
Marquez - KO in 6
Which one are you on about 1/2 ???
The fight he had with him at Featherweight back in OneTwo's younger lighter days. I mean of course he has now blossomed into a top fully fledged welterweight now (Manny also) it does pose a question whether Manny could get in behind the spinning backfist of fury, if of course he got past the same jab that sparked Manny in the first place. Boxrec are just haters and didn't regard it as a real win. Weirdo's.
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Has everyone contracted takethepissitis lately???
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Hamed gets made to look like an amateur as he gets countered left, right, centre and from behind.
With his wild inability to remain on balance Naz would probably hit the canvas a few times. Would be a wide 118-108 sort of UD.
Quite simply not on his level.
With his wild inability to remain on balance Naz would probably hit the canvas a few times. Would be a wide 118-108 sort of UD.
Quite simply not on his level.
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Not withstanding my admitted bias towards Ingles fighters, I give Naz a good chance of upsetting FMJ. Unlike many other I don't think that his loss to Barrea was a truly indicative of his level- he was an elite fighter and a motivated , focussed Naz gives any featherweight in history an arguement. He had plenty of speed, great power, elusive, and his unorthordoxy would give FMJ a difficult puzzle to solve- and if he doesn't solve it before six rounds have past, then Naz could nick a decision.
horizontalhero- Posts : 938
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Big fan of Naseem....................But Barrera was by far the best fighter he fought and he devised a gameplan to neutralise Hamed's pick shotting..........Whether it was peak Hamed or not................He was awful too against Kelley..
If he fought FM it would likely be at 130...........and Hamed would be at a disadvantage at that weight........
Mayweather probably decision...............Hamed would have to get lucky..
If he fought FM it would likely be at 130...........and Hamed would be at a disadvantage at that weight........
Mayweather probably decision...............Hamed would have to get lucky..
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Derbymanc wrote:Torrecampo - KO in 3
Singsurrat - TKO in 3
Marquez - KO in 6
Which one are you on about 1/2 ???
It can be found on the same youtube link as Mike Tyson talking about putting someones nose bone through their brain. You, me and the rest of the English speaking world heard him say it after the Jesse Ferguson fight. But not ONETWO. He heard him say it after an amateur fight.
But, Derby, I asked ONESPINNINGBACKFISTTOOMANY for some evidence of this about a year ago and still haven't seen it so don't hold your breath.
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My sympathy to the OP, he asks for the opinion of the 'enlightened members of the board' and he gets you jokers.
At least I have the decency to know my place and so offer no opinion. I hope an enlightened one drops by soon to redeem the thread.
At least I have the decency to know my place and so offer no opinion. I hope an enlightened one drops by soon to redeem the thread.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Who are these enlightened folk you speak of milky. Hate to break this to you so indelicately but windy passed away a couple of years ago.
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Bit like playing poker rowley. If you haven't worked out who the sucker is after a few hands, it must be you.
If you haven't worked out who the enlightened one's are after all this time, It must be you fella. So putting your naz love to one side (only the enlightened can remain objective) who wins naz or floyd?
If you haven't worked out who the enlightened one's are after all this time, It must be you fella. So putting your naz love to one side (only the enlightened can remain objective) who wins naz or floyd?
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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I have seen the footage of Manny getting koed by a jab.
Its no big mystery everyone knows about it. It would not be true if it was'nt true.
Its no big mystery everyone knows about it. It would not be true if it was'nt true.
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:I have seen the footage of Manny getting koed by a jab..
I thought he didn't like needles..
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Torrecampo and Singsurat at FLYWEIGHT.
Also am sure it was body shots.
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Too bad he seems to be surrounded by pricksTRUSSMAN66 wrote:ONETWOFOREVER wrote:I have seen the footage of Manny getting koed by a jab..
I thought he didn't like needles..
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Here it is
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnM8vPW_Q6U
and again
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XTUSFqXDFA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnM8vPW_Q6U
and again
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XTUSFqXDFA
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
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They were in talks to fight. Mayweather would have annihilated Hamed at that point. It would have been so one-sided it would have been untrue.
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Here it is
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnM8vPW_Q6U
and again
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XTUSFqXDFA
You do know what KOED means right?
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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Flippin eck 1/2 why say ko'd when you mean knocked down . Wtf is wrong with people/idiots tryin to make things sound worse
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The Artist Formerly Known As Prince would have had a better chance.
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Strongback wrote:The Artist Formerly Known As Prince would have had a better chance.
Certainly be at home on ....Alphabet street..
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They could have fought in 1999.....
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Strongback wrote:They could have fought in 1999.....
If he beat Floyd it would be the start of a purple reign................
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Derbymanc wrote:Flippin eck 1/2 why say ko'd when you mean knocked down . Wtf is wrong with people/idiots tryin to make things sound worse
NEWSFLASH: ONETWO is a t!t
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Wasn't just talking bout 1/2 though, people in general talking complete crap
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Does anybody give Prince a chance of upsetting Floyd?
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Yeah, Naz could ask Floyd to stump up for his food billAdamT wrote:Does anybody give Prince a chance of upsetting Floyd?
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DAVE667 wrote:Yeah, Naz could ask Floyd to stump up for his food billAdamT wrote:Does anybody give Prince a chance of upsetting Floyd?
Think even floyd would struggle to pay for the fat gits meals!
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The puncher's always got a chance of some sort but Mayweather's chin can seldom be got to cleanly, particularly if we're talking about a 130 lb Mayweather with additional footspeed and movement. If Hamed did test Mayweather's whiskers properly I don't think it's a given that he puts Mayweather in massively dire straits (albeit a clean whack from Hamed is going to hurt anyone to say the least) as bigger guys than Hamed such as Corley and Mosley have shaken him up but failed to put him over. That's another thing, too - you can land big on Mayweather once, but as Corley and Mosley will attest to it's hard to follow it up with anything most of the time as he's got a good chin, knows how to tie his man up and can fight fire with fire himself if he needs to. Mayweather was never a devastating hitter even at Super-Feather but his power down there definitely wasn't to be sniffed at, either.
I'll get a bit of stick for this as I have when I've said it in the past, but Mayweather is one of the rarest and most special talents the sport has seen in my opinion. Not completely peerless but part of a very small group. I think he's just too smart and too complete for Hamed. Combine that with Mayweather's size advantages and I can't see him losing this one. At his best there was a bit more to Hamed than just massive power, but Mayweather is a different level.
I'll get a bit of stick for this as I have when I've said it in the past, but Mayweather is one of the rarest and most special talents the sport has seen in my opinion. Not completely peerless but part of a very small group. I think he's just too smart and too complete for Hamed. Combine that with Mayweather's size advantages and I can't see him losing this one. At his best there was a bit more to Hamed than just massive power, but Mayweather is a different level.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Strongback wrote:They could have fought in 1999.....
If he beat Floyd it would be the start of a purple reign................
fine effort truss.
Seems like the consensus is that floyd would cream prince.
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Forget the Bugatti, if Naz wins, he'd buy himself a little red corvettemilkyboy wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Strongback wrote:They could have fought in 1999.....
If he beat Floyd it would be the start of a purple reign................
fine effort truss.
Seems like the consensus is that floyd would cream prince.
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88Chris05 wrote:The puncher's always got a chance of some sort but Mayweather's chin can seldom be got to cleanly, particularly if we're talking about a 130 lb Mayweather with additional footspeed and movement. If Hamed did test Mayweather's whiskers properly I don't think it's a given that he puts Mayweather in massively dire straits (albeit a clean whack from Hamed is going to hurt anyone to say the least) as bigger guys than Hamed such as Corley and Mosley have shaken him up but failed to put him over. That's another thing, too - you can land big on Mayweather once, but as Corley and Mosley will attest to it's hard to follow it up with anything most of the time as he's got a good chin, knows how to tie his man up and can fight fire with fire himself if he needs to. Mayweather was never a devastating hitter even at Super-Feather but his power down there definitely wasn't to be sniffed at, either.
I'll get a bit of stick for this as I have when I've said it in the past, but Mayweather is one of the rarest and most special talents the sport has seen in my opinion. Not completely peerless but part of a very small group. I think he's just too smart and too complete for Hamed. Combine that with Mayweather's size advantages and I can't see him losing this one. At his best there was a bit more to Hamed than just massive power, but Mayweather is a different level.
Mayweather was a truly special super featherweight but I think your praise is a bit gushing when considering him over the course of his career.
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What like moving up from super feather and beating the number 1 jr middle...
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I think you can pick the odd hole in Mayweather's legacy at any weight above 135, Haz, if that's what you're getting at. But in terms of what he produces inside the ropes and the skills he's got at his disposal there's not much to fault and he's just about as complete as they come, for me. His resume has been good enough to make him one of the best fighters on the planet for well over a decade and yet the argument (which probably has some weight to it) is that his resume doesn't do his talent justice, which speaks pretty loudly for what a talent he is.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What like moving up from super feather and beating the number 1 jr middle...
But refusing to defender his Jr Middle belt??
Do you equally credit Manny for moving up from even lower weight to win a Jr Middle strap (albeit not against the #1)?
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There are few bigger Naz fans than me and even I’m struggling to make a case for him here. At his very best at feather Naz was a tough fighter to prepare for, threw punches from unusual angles, genuine power in either hands and reasonably sharp in getting out of the way of punches. He provided every opponent with puzzles to solve they did not see against anyone else. However there is a world of difference between baffling the likes of Steve Robinson, an aging Vazquez or Billy Hardy than doing it to Floyd.
One thing that always impresses me with Floyd is to work opponents out and make subtle adjustments, he did it in the Judah fight early when troubled with his speed and you have to think he does it against Naz. As Chris has said Naz has enough power to get anyone in or around super feather in trouble, but Floyd has never really shown he is the kind of guy who gets taken out by one shot, irrespective of who is throwing it, and landing three or four on the bounce of sufficient power to take him out seems unlikely. Not sure you can make any argument for anything other than a Floyd win, probably on points and whilst it is clear enough I don’t see a shut out as I genuinely think Naz wins a few early until Floyd works him out.
One thing that always impresses me with Floyd is to work opponents out and make subtle adjustments, he did it in the Judah fight early when troubled with his speed and you have to think he does it against Naz. As Chris has said Naz has enough power to get anyone in or around super feather in trouble, but Floyd has never really shown he is the kind of guy who gets taken out by one shot, irrespective of who is throwing it, and landing three or four on the bounce of sufficient power to take him out seems unlikely. Not sure you can make any argument for anything other than a Floyd win, probably on points and whilst it is clear enough I don’t see a shut out as I genuinely think Naz wins a few early until Floyd works him out.
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