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Amir Khan vs Adrien Broner
Current reports suggest this is a done deal for May? Broner has since tweeted saying in talks and a that a fight could be round the corner.
On the other hand he could be playing an April fools so who knows but if the fight does occur who wins?
I'm going Khan via UD
On the other hand he could be playing an April fools so who knows but if the fight does occur who wins?
I'm going Khan via UD
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I'm going "Society loses as their egos remain unchecked and they both remain unslapped by their Mums for being tw*ts"
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Fair bet, Dave. I'll go Khan points.
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Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?
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If Khan gets ahead early and Broner loses heart it could be a procession. Having said that after getting decked early against Maidana, AB showed guts to get back into it. Not a gimme for Khan but I'm backing him for the win.
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Intriguing fight and a crossroads fight too...........
Both have much to lose here...........
Broner can forget the line Maidana was a blip and any aspirations to greatness can be forgotten....
Khan can rule out Manny/Floyd and being considered one of the top fighters around.....Though Brook would still be feasible...
Khan points............
Both have much to lose here...........
Broner can forget the line Maidana was a blip and any aspirations to greatness can be forgotten....
Khan can rule out Manny/Floyd and being considered one of the top fighters around.....Though Brook would still be feasible...
Khan points............
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Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......
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TopHat24/7 wrote:Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......
Yep I'm sure If khan wins he will be a hype job....
Like Alvarez...
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TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote:Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......
Yep I'm sure If khan wins he will be a hype job....
Like Alvarez...
Possibly, if I ever had actually said Alvarez was a hype job......
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Got to fancy Khan in this one, Amir's major weaknesses are pressure and heavy hitters. Broner brings neither of these to the table, think he will outspeed Broner and even if he does have any of his momentary lapses in concentration not sure Broner has enough of a dig at welter to exploit them.
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Watch Broner-Malignaggi, is there much more to say
Broner got outworked by malignaggi modt of the night but because paulie is feather fisted broner landed the flashier shots. Khan is bigger, stronger, quicker, fitter and just better than paulie in every department except the chin department.
Can broner ice him in one punch, at 147 or even 140 he hasnt shown that he has that kind of power although he will have enough to gain khans respect i feel
Easy win for khan though, broner is tailor made for khan. One sided beat down in favour of khan, broner just isnt a welterweight
Broner got outworked by malignaggi modt of the night but because paulie is feather fisted broner landed the flashier shots. Khan is bigger, stronger, quicker, fitter and just better than paulie in every department except the chin department.
Can broner ice him in one punch, at 147 or even 140 he hasnt shown that he has that kind of power although he will have enough to gain khans respect i feel
Easy win for khan though, broner is tailor made for khan. One sided beat down in favour of khan, broner just isnt a welterweight
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Broner couldn't drop Maidana, from memory, whose chin is nothing to right home about. So don't think he has the kind of power or timing of a Danny Garcia in order to trouble Khan.
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.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?
Time to correct this error ridden statement.
You ask........
''When does Khan get outboxed''
I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.
You say.......
''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''
Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.
Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.
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To be fair, if boxing is, as Mayweather likes to tell us, Hit and don't get hit.... being hit so hard you can't continue is the definition of getting outboxed
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?
Time to correct this error ridden statement.
You ask........
''When does Khan get outboxed''
I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.
You say.......
''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''
Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.
Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.
If Peterson had been so effective it wouldn't have been a contentious decision, If you think Garcia outboxed him then you were obviously watching a completely different fight from the whole world (Probably the one where Pac got Ko'd by a jab ) Take nothing away from Garcia though as that was his only hope and he hit it.
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Dipper Brown wrote:Jesus wept.
He did weep and is still weeping at so called boxing fans lack of boxing knowledge.
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At least you acknowledge you have lack of boxing knowledge 1/2, it's a start
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Certain posters opinions are so anti certain fighters it's pointless reading them......Haz/Strongy on Floyd and Coxy and Onetwo with Khan...
Still at least Coxy and Onetwo aren't editing articles about Khan yet...
Still at least Coxy and Onetwo aren't editing articles about Khan yet...
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I think we know the real reason that Khan is hated by some.
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So Khan is fighting an inactive counter puncher that hasn't carried his power from superfeather/lightweight
Smoke and mirrors.
With a few
Smoke and mirrors.
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:You say.......
''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''
Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.
Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.
With a few
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Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:So Khan is fighting an inactive counter puncher that hasn't carried his power from superfeather/lightweight
Smoke and mirrors.TRUSSMAN wrote:You say.......
''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''
Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.
Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.
With a few
Don't put my name to a post I didn't write...
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So you never said that that Broner would knock cant out nor typed the above post
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TRUSSMAN...............I apologise.
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If Khan can keep his chin to himself for 12 rounds he should win fairly comfortable. Broner hasn't got the feet to pressure Khan and so the way I see it is completely dependant on the counter. Khans foot speed is key to a wide UD. Would broner come back up to 147?
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jimdig wrote:If Khan can keep his chin to himself for 12 rounds he should win fairly comfortable. Broner hasn't got the feet to pressure Khan and so the way I see it is completely dependant on the counter. Khans foot speed is key to a wide UD. Would broner come back up to 147?
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?
Time to correct this error ridden statement.
You ask........
''When does Khan get outboxed''
I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.
You say.......
''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''
Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.
Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.
Day by day you manage to make a greater t!t of yourself.
What happened? You never managed to be THIS bad?!
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Just because I am not a fan of Khan does not mean I have a hateful agenda against him.
He wants to take a short cut to achieve the success of Money/Pac but those guys have proven their worth. Floyd has fought and beat numerous world champs and remained unbeaten, Pac has fought many ex world champs and has maintained his elite fighter status.
You can't look at Khans record to date and say the same.
but I don't hate the guy just feel he is trying to manipulate the sport to his own ends.
He wants to take a short cut to achieve the success of Money/Pac but those guys have proven their worth. Floyd has fought and beat numerous world champs and remained unbeaten, Pac has fought many ex world champs and has maintained his elite fighter status.
You can't look at Khans record to date and say the same.
but I don't hate the guy just feel he is trying to manipulate the sport to his own ends.
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According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
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Marco_Marky - Stuffington wrote:I think we know the real reason that Khan is hated by some.
AZANIA!! You're back!!! Get yourself over to Off Topic/N&CA, it's been boring without you....
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ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip
Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.
But moving on!
This fight pretty much explains whether Broner was just a pure hype job and is a blown up LW who needs to go back down there. I'm not at all convinced he's effective above 135 though, so am expecting Khan to deal with him handily. Wish he'd fight a decent ranked WW like Bradley/Thurman/Brook/JMM or fight a LWW like Garcia/Matthysee, fight won't tell us much as he's cherry picked another pillow puncher.
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Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
We interpret life differently.
Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
We interpret life differently.
Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''
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Derbymanc wrote:ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
We interpret life differently.
Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''
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Just be thankful he isn't talking about 'lizard people'......
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Coxy001 wrote:ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip
Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.
You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's
Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........
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Coxy001 wrote:ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip
Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.
But moving on!
This fight pretty much explains whether Broner was just a pure hype job and is a blown up LW who needs to go back down there. I'm not at all convinced he's effective above 135 though, so am expecting Khan to deal with him handily. Wish he'd fight a decent ranked WW like Bradley/Thurman/Brook/JMM or fight a LWW like Garcia/Matthysee, fight won't tell us much as he's cherry picked another pillow puncher.
..I was talking about Khan you silly sod. And i could never really match you for spite coxy and the biggest scroungers in this country are the mp's so I dont really define myself by which party I'll vote for. But then again I've no need to reinvent myself as the renaissance man to impress anonymous users on an internet forum so I guess we're poles apart.
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This is a good fight between two absolute douchebags.
Both are unproven at WW for me, so this fight makes perfect sense.
Both are unproven at WW for me, so this fight makes perfect sense.
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Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Coxy001 wrote:ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip
Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.
You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's
Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........
Hit a nerve with the benefit scrounging have I soldier? Not sure what I've ever said to you, as such you taking an interest in me is just plain weird.
But back on topic
Will it be at the full WW limit? Can't imagine Broner would want to give away a shed load of weight and have to strain himself to get up there, but can't imagine Khan giving way either. Argh, what do I care - borderline pointless fight for Khan. Loses it and it's spirito de punto for his career.
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Not a bad opponent but not enough to absolve Khan from being so cool / indifferent to the Brook fight (as I said the other day, I felt only Thurman, Bradley or Marquez could really do that), and at the same time not enough to get people thinking that he simply must be the next guy to face whoever wins on May 2.
Khan's form goes in and out of various peaks and troughs and as such any fight involving him and any fighter ranked inside the division's top dozen or so (if it's an extremely strong division, which Welter is right now) is never a totally forgone conclusion. But his recent form has been very good, whereas Broner's hasn't. Broner's one of the few guys with hand speed at least comparable to Khan's, but he's not mobile and isn't as busy or well-conditioned as Khan. His punch power as a Welter is questionable, albeit as history shows that doesn't necessarily disqualify you from being able to shake Khan up a bit.
Can see Khan running out a comfortable points winner as Broner's lack of foot speed and reliance on pulling back at the waist and trying to shoulder punches works well against singles, but isn't so effective against combinations which Khan is excellent at reeling off. Khan's got recent form and confidence going for him here and I think those things combined will be enough. Puncher's chance only for Broner unless he switches things up.
Khan's form goes in and out of various peaks and troughs and as such any fight involving him and any fighter ranked inside the division's top dozen or so (if it's an extremely strong division, which Welter is right now) is never a totally forgone conclusion. But his recent form has been very good, whereas Broner's hasn't. Broner's one of the few guys with hand speed at least comparable to Khan's, but he's not mobile and isn't as busy or well-conditioned as Khan. His punch power as a Welter is questionable, albeit as history shows that doesn't necessarily disqualify you from being able to shake Khan up a bit.
Can see Khan running out a comfortable points winner as Broner's lack of foot speed and reliance on pulling back at the waist and trying to shoulder punches works well against singles, but isn't so effective against combinations which Khan is excellent at reeling off. Khan's got recent form and confidence going for him here and I think those things combined will be enough. Puncher's chance only for Broner unless he switches things up.
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TopHat24/7 wrote:Derbymanc wrote:ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.
The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.
Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.
We interpret life differently.
Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''
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Just be thankful he isn't talking about 'lizard people'......
Shssss! Rule 1 of lizard people club, you don’t talk about the Lizard people club.
I’m struggling to see why Broner would want or take this fight? If I were him I would see this as a high risk fight and a likely loss. Without KO power he will be in with a guy that holds many advantages so I would be very impressed and shocked if he won. For me, this is a pretty clever fight for Khan as he’s a good name and decent money fight that he will likely win. For Broner it’s a poorly calculated risk that could really spell the end of his elite profile… which I think he’s just about hanging on to.
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Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.
Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.
Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.
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Coxy001 wrote:Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.
Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.
This is exactly how I see it. How can Khan say Brook doesn't bring enough to the table or hasn't enough top names on his CV and then consider a Broner fight.
Is Broner a legit WW? No
Has he fought top fighters? One in MM and lost and it's even hard to call MM a 'top' fighter
Bring loads of money to the table? No
Got a WW belt? No
If this fight happens then Khan deserves criticism for this and not fighting Brook for the reasons above.
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Is he a name in america - Yes
Will Khan look like the bee's Knees - Yes
Does Khan want to force Mayweather into a fight - Yes
Will Khan look like the bee's Knees - Yes
Does Khan want to force Mayweather into a fight - Yes
Re: Amir Khan vs Adrien Broner
Pedro147 wrote:Coxy001 wrote:Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.
Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.
This is exactly how I see it. How can Khan say Brook doesn't bring enough to the table or hasn't enough top names on his CV and then consider a Broner fight.
Is Broner a legit WW? No
Has he fought top fighters? One in MM and lost and it's even hard to call MM a 'top' fighter
Bring loads of money to the table? No
Got a WW belt? No
If this fight happens then Khan deserves criticism for this and not fighting Brook for the reasons above.
Pedro, don't be so harsh on Khan. He's promised someone a fight and thus in today's day and age of fighters being total gentlemen he absolutely has to stay true to his word...!
You also forgot:
* Can punch
* Is an aggressive brawler
Basically Khan's kryptonite
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Coxy001 wrote:Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Coxy001 wrote:ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip
Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.
You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's
Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........
Hit a nerve with the benefit scrounging have I soldier? Not sure what I've ever said to you, as such you taking an interest in me is just plain weird.
Interest.........just a generalisation of Tory toffs. Like you generalised Labour supporters.
So I take it you play cricket badly then
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How does beating a guy like Broner force Mayweather into a fight? You think Floyd waits for Broner to get slapped and then defends his honour like Vitali did with Wlad? Khan's improving with every fight so why would Mayweather take a risk fighting him now when he didn't fancy it last year?ShahenshahG wrote:Is he a name in america - Yes
Will Khan look like the bee's Knees - Yes
Does Khan want to force Mayweather into a fight - Yes
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