Fantasy Aviva Premiership League Table 2011/12

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	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	TF	TA	PD	BP	PTS
01 - Newcastle Falcons	22	17	2	3	631	486	67	47	+145	11	83
02 - Saracens	22	16	2	4	597	490	71	39	+107	12	80
03 - Gloucester	22	14	2	6	615	517	62	48	+98	12	72
04 - Leicester Tigers	22	12	0	10	604	542	63	53	+62	13	61
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05 - London Irish	22	11	2	9	590	535	65	56	+55	13	61
06 - Harlequins	22	12	2	8	553	547	51	50	+6	7	59
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07 - Sale Sharks	22	11	1	10	553	547	55	50	+6	9	55
08 - Northampton Saints	22	9	2	11	566	595	56	57	-29	13	53
09 - Bath Rugby	22	11	0	11	543	574	53	60	-31	5	49
10 - London Wasps	22	8	0	14	530	600	43	64	-70	5	37
11 - Worcester Warriors	22	3	1	18	453	620	40	66	-167	4	18
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12 - Exeter Chiefs	22	1	0	21	430	614	31	67	-184	8	12

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League Placings

In the case of equality at any stage of the Season, positions at that stage of the season shall be determined firstly by the number of wins achieved and then on the basis of match points differential. A Club with a larger number of wins shall be placed higher than a Club with the same number of league points but fewer wins.

If Clubs have equal league points and equal number of wins then a Club with a larger difference between match points "for" and match points "against" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than a Club with a smaller difference between match points "for" and match points "against".

Should two Clubs have the same number of league points and the same match points difference, the Club having scored more match points "for" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than the Club having the lesser number of match points "for".

If the above does not establish different Premiership League positions then the Club in the higher position shall be the Club that has achieved the higher aggregate match points scored by it in the same season against the other Club.

If this still does not establish the position then the Club who has won the most matches, excluding its first Premiership League match of the season, then its second Premiership League match and so on, until it can be established which the higher placed Club is.

Exeter in 2nd - the joys!

Mind you Sarries don't look out of place down there

Cheers pete!

No worries mate.

It's easier to do on here as you can fit more on than you could on 606.

ROUND 2 UPDATE/REVIEW

After a cracking round of matches in difficult, windy conditions, champions Newcastle Falcons remain top after a second consecutive bonus point win away at Sandy Park, the beaten Chiefs dropping one place to the foot of the table, with worries over their defence having conceded 8 tries in 2 matches, and questions being asked if they are going to suffer from second season syndrome.

Sale Sharks are hot on the heels of the champions rising one place to 2nd with a good home win against fancied London Irish, who drop one place to 9th despite picking up a losing bonus point at Edgely Park.

Harlequins jump three places from 6th to 3rd courtesy of their comprehensive win at The Stoop over Northampton Saints, who find themselves falling from 4th to 7th place.

Saracens jump one place into 4th as a result of a hard fought win away at The Rec, where Bath's losing bonus point sees them off the bottom and into 11th place.

Leicester Tigers fall from 2nd to 5th having lost a close game at Adams Park, where Wasps recorded their first win of the season to leapfrog London irish into 8th place.

Gloucester also recorded their first win of the new campaign with a 26-20 victory over newly promoted Worcester Warriors, to move up one place to 6th, with the Warriors losing bonus point seeing them remain in 10th.

Nice write-up

Can we just call this page 'League Table'?

ROUND 3 REVIEW

Champions Newcastle Falcons maintain their 100% start to the season at home to Leicester Tigers, and remain top of the pile after 3 weeks. Saracens closed the gap with a win against promoted Worcester, and leapfrog Harlequins into second courtesy of the try bonus point. Quins though will be happy to have continued their winning start to the season defeating Gloucester and denying them a losing bonus point, and they remain third. After a tough defeat on the road to Wasps, Sale Sharks slip two places to fourth, with their losing bonus point keeping them well in touch with the top placed teams.

That win for London Wasps sees them jump from 8th to 5th place and they look to be building some early season momentum after their opening day defeat, whilst Leicester slip for a second week running, down one place to 6th after their defeat at Kingston Park.

Northampton saints home draw with London Irish sees them maintain 7th spot in the table, with Gloucester falling below them into 8th after failing to get anything from their game at The Stoop. Bath leapfrog London Irish into ninth after their first win of the season against Exeter Chiefs, the Exiles draw not being enough for them to maintain their position this week. Worcesters defeat at Vicarage Road doesn't see them fall at all, but Exeter Chiefs losing bonus point at The Rec sees them level on points with the Warriors.

ROUND 4 REVIEW

After a fantastic round of rugby Newcastle Falcons remain top of the Aviva Premiership courtesy of a hard fought victory over London irish at the Madejski Stadium. The Exiles losing bonus point sees them remain in 10th place without a win in four matches since the start of the season. Harlequins draw with Worcester at Sixways catapults them into 2nd place on points difference from Sale Sharks, who secured a comfortable home win against Northampton Saints to go into 3rd. They only sit above Saracens who slipped into 4th place courtesy of points scored, with Saracens losing bonus point at Welford Road leaving the teams in 2nd-4th place all on 14 points.

London Wasps 3rd win on the trot, away to Exeter Chiefs, sees them consolidate 5th place, and Leicester Tigers, having got back to winning ways at home to Saracens, halt their recent slide to remain in 6th.

Gloucester, with the only try bonus point of the round at home to Bath move up one place into 7th, with Northampton Saints losing bonus point at Edgely Park not enough to stop them slipping down one place into 8th. Despite picking up no points at Kingsholm, Bath remain in 9th, although now level on points with London Irish in 10th. 11th place Worcester Warriors close the gap on the teams above them courtesy of a home draw against high flying Harlequins, and Exeter Chiefs remain rooted to the bottom after failing to secure even a losing bonus poitn at home to London Wasps.

I'm sure we don't need bonus points...be in a much better position without them

You are well set to launch an assault on the top half in any case mate.

I cannot remember the last time i lost.

Have a tough game at bath this week

Came back well from a tricky start Matt. Not really to much of a surprise though.

Genia and Carter pencilled in for a rest against me right?

Run in is going to be heavily dependent on S15 form I think. Lot's of teams with a lot of SH players, who are currently being judged either on World Cup or last seasons form. Could all change once the Super 15 has been up and running for a few weeks.

It is a massive factor.

More importantly for me I think is the form of my 6N players. The likes of Warbs, Heaslip, Preistland and Kearney are at the heart of my team and a good 6N sets me up well.

Ofcourse Cooper playing well is a benefit but he won't be fit immediately.

Looking forward to seeing Jano Vermaak play for the Bulls, really top 9.

I could do with Rynhardt Elstadt getting of to a flyer for the Stormers, give me a real powerhouse in the engine room when I lose Attwood back to saints when his loan spell is up.

I have more S15 players than I realised. Basically I need the Reds to do well and my backs will have a little more spark to them

With three games remaining Newcastle Falcons and Saracens have secured their play off places, but neither are yet guaranteed a home tie. Gloucester need just 2 more points to be certain of a semi final, with Leicester Tigers, London Irish, Harlequins, Sale Sharks and Bath Rugby all still capable of making the final play off spot.

Northampton Saints and London Wasps can both mathematically make the top 6, although it looks unlikely, and for Saints it is not a priority as they have already secured Heineken Cup rugby for next season via the Anglo Welsh Cup.

The relegation scrap is a straight two horse race between Worcester and Exeter Chiefs, with a massive game between the two of them coming up at Sixways in Round 20.

Ozzy3213 wrote:

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	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	TF	TA	PD	BP	PTS
01 - Newcastle Falcons	19	15	1	3	545	417	58	41	+128	10	72
02 - Saracens	19	14	2	3	516	418	61	31	+98	10	70
03 - Gloucester	19	13	1	5	531	439	53	40	+92	10	64
04 - Leicester Tigers	19	11	0	8	525	463	56	43	+62	10	54
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05 - London Irish	19	9	2	8	509	467	56	48	+42	11	51
06 - Harlequins	19	10	2	7	469	477	42	44	-8	5	49
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07 - Sale Sharks	19	9	1	9	467	464	46	43	+3	8	46
08 - Bath Rugby	19	10	0	9	464	486	45	51	-22	4	44
09 - Northampton Saints	19	6	2	11	475	530	44	52	-55	10	38
10 - London Wasps	19	8	0	11	466	503	39	52	-37	5	37
11 - Worcester Warriors	19	2	1	16	386	541	33	58	-155	4	14
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12 - Exeter Chiefs	19	1	0	18	372	522	27	57	-150	8	12

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Jsut sticking this here as a marker before updating the table.

Ozzy3213 wrote:

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	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	TF	TA	PD	BP	PTS
01 - Newcastle Falcons	20	15	2	3	571	443	60	43	+128	10	74
02 - Saracens	20	15	2	3	540	441	64	33	+99	10	74
03 - Gloucester	20	13	2	5	557	465	55	42	+92	10	66
04 - Leicester Tigers	20	11	0	9	550	493	57	47	+57	11	55
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05 - Harlequins	20	11	2	7	501	497	46	46	+4	6	54
06 - London Irish	20	9	2	9	532	491	58	51	+41	12	52
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07 - Sale Sharks	20	10	1	9	500	486	50	44	+14	9	51
08 - Bath Rugby	20	10	0	10	486	519	46	55	-33	4	44
09 - Northampton Saints	20	7	2	11	505	555	48	53	-50	11	43
10 - London Wasps	20	8	0	12	486	535	41	56	-49	5	37
11 - Worcester Warriors	20	3	1	16	412	559	35	58	-147	4	18
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12 - Exeter Chiefs	20	1	0	19	390	548	27	59	-158	8	12

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League Placings

In the case of equality at any stage of the Season, positions at that stage of the season shall be determined firstly by the number of wins achieved and then on the basis of match points differential. A Club with a larger number of wins shall be placed higher than a Club with the same number of league points but fewer wins.

If Clubs have equal league points and equal number of wins then a Club with a larger difference between match points "for" and match points "against" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than a Club with a smaller difference between match points "for" and match points "against".

Should two Clubs have the same number of league points and the same match points difference, the Club having scored more match points "for" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than the Club having the lesser number of match points "for".

If the above does not establish different Premiership League positions then the Club in the higher position shall be the Club that has achieved the higher aggregate match points scored by it in the same season against the other Club.

If this still does not establish the position then the Club who has won the most matches, excluding its first Premiership League match of the season, then its second Premiership League match and so on, until it can be established which the higher placed Club is.

Placed as a marker before I update this weeks results.

Ozzy3213 wrote:

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	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	TF	TA	PD	BP	PTS
01 - Newcastle Falcons	21	16	2	3	599	464	63	46	+135	10	78
02 - Saracens	21	15	2	4	561	469	67	36	+92	11	75
03 - Gloucester	21	14	2	5	591	489	59	45	+102	11	71
04 - Harlequins	21	12	2	7	526	518	49	48	+8	6	58
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05 - London Irish	21	10	2	9	562	511	62	53	+51	13	57
06 - Leicester Tigers	21	11	0	10	571	518	59	50	+53	12	56
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07 - Sale Sharks	21	10	1	10	524	520	53	48	+4	9	51
08 - Bath Rugby	21	11	0	10	519	541	50	56	-22	5	49
09 - Northampton Saints	21	8	2	11	535	574	52	54	-39	12	48
10 - London Wasps	21	8	0	13	508	568	42	60	-60	5	37
11 - Worcester Warriors	21	3	1	17	432	589	37	62	-157	4	18
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12 - Exeter Chiefs	21	1	0	20	409	578	28	63	-169	8	12

Marker before I update it shortly.

As expected pete.


We have back to back massive games
Hence my resting of
Certain players
And playing others who needed run.

Epic
Epic games can't believe tigers sneaked it.

Apologies for not predicting i had a few problems at home
. Worst thing is my predos may have changed results

Massive apologies to all in the mix. I had a proper emergency

Gonna be two monster games mate that is for sure.

In fairness to you, I don't think your predictions would have affected the outcome greatly. You couldn't have influenced your own game so Irish would have still not have got a TBP, and Tigers would have got a TBP regardless. For Quins to have picked up the win they needed you would have had to have given them a 14 point victory to have swung the game their way, which I think was unlikely.

I don't know Pete. I'd say a 14 point margin would have been a conservative predo

I like the way I have no understanding how the scoring works even though it's simple. I predict on the hoof.


Pooly has a massive game Leicester are an outfit and front 5 really tough

That's why I never start totalling up until after I have predicted, as I can see in black and white what predos can swing things which way, so it just avoids any temptation to stitch anyone up!

Just found last season's league table.

Some interesting reading.
Top spot similar total points.

Irish and Sale both dropped 2 places, Quins and Tigers up two - I actually got less points this year and ended up 4th, than I did last and finished 6th.
Rest are all in within place of last year, I think.

2011/12:

	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	TF	TA	PD	BP	PTS
01 - Newcastle Falcons	22	17	2	3	631	486	67	47	+145	11	83
02 - Saracens	22	16	2	4	597	490	71	39	+107	12	80
03 - Gloucester	22	14	2	6	615	517	62	48	+98	12	72
04 - Leicester Tigers	22	12	0	10	604	542	63	53	+62	13	61
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05 - London Irish	22	11	2	9	590	535	65	56	+55	13	61
06 - Harlequins	22	12	2	8	553	547	51	50	+6	7	59
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07 - Sale Sharks	22	11	1	10	553	547	55	50	+6	9	55
08 - Northampton Saints	22	9	2	11	566	595	56	57	-29	13	53
09 - Bath Rugby	22	11	0	11	543	574	53	60	-31	5	49
10 - London Wasps	22	8	0	14	530	600	43	64	-70	5	37
11 - Worcester Warriors	22	3	1	18	453	620	40	66	-167	4	18
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12 - Exeter Chiefs	22	1	0	21	430	614	31	67	-184	8	12

2010/11

P W D L PD BP PTS
01 – NEWCASTLE FALCONS 22 17 1 4 +162 14 84
02 – SARACENS 22 15 3 4 +84 9 75
03 – LONDON IRISH 22 14 0 8 +67 12 68
04 – GLOUCESTER 22 13 0 9 +67 15 67
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05 – SALE SHARKS 22 13 1 8 +65 8 62
06 – LEICESTER TIGERS 22 12 3 7 +60 8 62
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07 – NORTHAMPTON SAINTS 22 10 2 10 +6 8 51*
08 – HARLEQUINS 22 9 1 12 -42 8 45*
09 – LONDON WASPS 22 8 2 12 -54 5 40*
10 – BATH RUGBY 22 7 0 15 -57 8 35*
11 – EXETER CHIEFS 22 5 1 16 -137 4 26
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12 – LEEDS CARNEGIE 22 1 2 19 -211 4 11*

Wish we could find season one and two tables somehow.

Just found 2009/10 (season 2)

Guinness Premiership Fantasy Rugby League

P W D L PD BP PTS
01 - GLOUCESTER 22 17 0 5 +63 7 75
02 - SARACENS 22 14 4 4 +51 7 71
03 – NORTHAMPTON SAINTS 22 14 2 6 +50 8 66**
04 - HARLEQUINS 22 13 2 7 +38 9 65
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05 - BATH RUGBY 22 13 3 6 +11 7 65
06 – LONDON IRISH 22 12 1 9 +41 12 62
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07 – LEICESTER TIGERS 22 10 3 9 +24 11 57
08 – NEWCASTLE FALCONS 22 10 2 10 +5 12 56
09 – LONDON WASPS 22 5 4 13 -19 14 42
10 – LEEDS CARNEGIE 22 4 2 16 -41 15 35
11 – SALE SHARKS 22 4 2 16 -112 12 31*
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12 - WORCESTER WARRIORS 22 3 1 18 -112 13 27

And 2008/09 (season 1)

After Round 22:-

Team..................P...W...D...L...F....A....BP..Pts
London Irish..........20..12..2...6...429..343..10..62
Saracens..............20..12..3...5...392..293..7...61
Gloucester............20..11..3...6...397..422..7...57
Northampton Saints....20..10..3...7...410..395..9...55
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London Wasps..........20..9...4...7...340..318..8...52
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Newcastle Falcons.....20..9...5...6...357..357..6...52
Bath..................20..8...4...8...343..344..10..50
Leicester Tigers......20..10..1...9...316..374..5...47
Harlequins............20..5...5...10..404..376..15..45
Sale Sharks...........20..4...2...14..252..357..8...28
Worcester Warriors....19..3...2...15..268..377..11..27

Champions:- London Irish

N.B. We didn't have anyone who wanted to be Bristol so removed them from the league, hence only 20 matches for each team.

Ah the days when I used to get into the play offs!

After the first two seasons I opted to try and just go for cups, as league was too competitive! Think I will go back in for the league next year!

Leicester Tigers league positions:

08/09 - 8
09/10 - 7
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 4
12/13 - ???

Gunning for that top 3!

Saracens league positions:

08/09 - 2
09/10 - 2
10/11 - 2
11/12 - 2

I sense a recurring theme!

Lol - consitent!

I've gone backwards!

1st
6th
3rd
5th

Just putting this here for ease of reference

Ozzy3213 wrote:In case anyone is interested, I have found the links to the homepages for the previous 3 seasons...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A56313911 - Season 2 homepage
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A46380981 - Season 1 homepage
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A71685589 - Season 3 homepage

Attached to them are the links to all of the associated game pages.