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PGA Tour: The Masters Winner, via Process of Elimination: Notes from the Ballwasher
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1).Last year I slurped a couple of bottles of Malbec and attempted to make a case for a European Champion. Henrik Stenson was the chosen candidate and he played well but not nearly well enough, Jonas Blixt finishing ahead of him as the leading Swede. So we changed the formula this year, not the Malbec of course, but let's revert to Andy North's time-honoured process of elimination.
NB: Any bias or prejudice is entirely intentional.
2).Starting with Amateurs. One or two have come close, Patton, Venturi, but none won a Green Jacket and that won't change this year. Seven eliminated.
3).No rookie has one since Fuzzy Zoeller over 35 years ago. I fancy Tringale to play well, but I'll go with history and take out the 13 first-timers.
4).Jack Nicklaus won the 1986 Masters at the age of 46, the oldest Champion. I don't see any of the forty-somethings in the field improving their game, so let's dispense with the likes of Westwood, Furyk and Els and 20 others. 23 can exit, best chances Phil, who's only had one top ten finish since Muirfield, and Cabrera, always a decent each way punt.
5).Augusta National could be the toughest walking course these guys play, not good if you're carrying a knock, physically or mentally, or in some cases Tiger, both. Bye bye to seven crocks, including McDowell, Stenson and Reed.
6).Poor putters and scramblers need not apply. 24 still standing are #110 or below in the PGA Tour's primary putting or scrambling stat. On your way then Dustin, Rickie, Keegan, Webb, Kaymer, Rose, Charl and Adam. Big risk sending Matsuyama and Oosthuizen down the road, but their putting has not been good enough. Russell Henley may be a putting genius but he needs to scramble too.
7).As baseball fans know, "Chicks dig the long ball", and so do Augusta's Green Jackets; bad news for slowpokes Crane and Na and eight others, none of them in the top 100. Sorry Sneds, still good for a place.
8).Only fourteen left so time to discard those currently out of form. Regardless of what they might have done elsewhere in the world, none of this lot have a PGA Tour top ten finish this year: Dubuisson, Grace, Ilonen, Mahan, Streelman, Villegas. Adios to the 6 of you.
9).And of the rest, only Jason Day, Spieth and Jimmy Walker have wins, so San-Moon Bae, Sergio, Rory, Ryan Palmer and Bubba can leave quietly down Magnolia Lane.
10).Day, Spieth and Walker have all played well at Augusta. Day and Spieth have play-off wins this year, Walker has two wins by a total of 13 strokes. Give me the proven winner and measure up Jimmy Walker for a Green Jacket. Cheers.
1).Last year I slurped a couple of bottles of Malbec and attempted to make a case for a European Champion. Henrik Stenson was the chosen candidate and he played well but not nearly well enough, Jonas Blixt finishing ahead of him as the leading Swede. So we changed the formula this year, not the Malbec of course, but let's revert to Andy North's time-honoured process of elimination.
NB: Any bias or prejudice is entirely intentional.
2).Starting with Amateurs. One or two have come close, Patton, Venturi, but none won a Green Jacket and that won't change this year. Seven eliminated.
3).No rookie has one since Fuzzy Zoeller over 35 years ago. I fancy Tringale to play well, but I'll go with history and take out the 13 first-timers.
4).Jack Nicklaus won the 1986 Masters at the age of 46, the oldest Champion. I don't see any of the forty-somethings in the field improving their game, so let's dispense with the likes of Westwood, Furyk and Els and 20 others. 23 can exit, best chances Phil, who's only had one top ten finish since Muirfield, and Cabrera, always a decent each way punt.
5).Augusta National could be the toughest walking course these guys play, not good if you're carrying a knock, physically or mentally, or in some cases Tiger, both. Bye bye to seven crocks, including McDowell, Stenson and Reed.
6).Poor putters and scramblers need not apply. 24 still standing are #110 or below in the PGA Tour's primary putting or scrambling stat. On your way then Dustin, Rickie, Keegan, Webb, Kaymer, Rose, Charl and Adam. Big risk sending Matsuyama and Oosthuizen down the road, but their putting has not been good enough. Russell Henley may be a putting genius but he needs to scramble too.
7).As baseball fans know, "Chicks dig the long ball", and so do Augusta's Green Jackets; bad news for slowpokes Crane and Na and eight others, none of them in the top 100. Sorry Sneds, still good for a place.
8).Only fourteen left so time to discard those currently out of form. Regardless of what they might have done elsewhere in the world, none of this lot have a PGA Tour top ten finish this year: Dubuisson, Grace, Ilonen, Mahan, Streelman, Villegas. Adios to the 6 of you.
9).And of the rest, only Jason Day, Spieth and Jimmy Walker have wins, so San-Moon Bae, Sergio, Rory, Ryan Palmer and Bubba can leave quietly down Magnolia Lane.
10).Day, Spieth and Walker have all played well at Augusta. Day and Spieth have play-off wins this year, Walker has two wins by a total of 13 strokes. Give me the proven winner and measure up Jimmy Walker for a Green Jacket. Cheers.
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No fishing this weekend for Stricker.
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Right club from JP eventually but it's Rory that's missing the tiddlers that's for definite.
Always kind of liked Casey but I have seen him up close as well and it wasn't pleasant.
Moore in their to help tv ratings he is a quirky guy.
Always kind of liked Casey but I have seen him up close as well and it wasn't pleasant.
Moore in their to help tv ratings he is a quirky guy.
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John Cregan wrote:Why?? Im Irish and support the Irish guys (that includes NI )beninho wrote:I don't get the whole support the English guys because they are English nonsense
It's an individual sport. They are competingfor themselves. If iI like the way they come across I don't care what nationality they are. I can't take to casey though.
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Casey has bit of a rubber face.
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Why did Rory have to draw it into 15? Wasn't necesary for Scott and Dustin.
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incontinentia wrote:Patriotism- the idea that your country is better than everyone else's because you were born therebeninho wrote:I don't get the whole support the English guys because they are English nonsense
Not true in the slightest. Well not for all, it's more about supporting players you have followed for a long time and part of the same system you yourself has been in.
But all the same it's golf and nationality is only part of the reason to follow a player.
Anyway shall we not take this off topic. I just can't be bothered with the ignorance or the typical english stance that it's wrong to support an Englishman or english team.. It's perfectly normal in every other nation and has little to do with feeling superior.
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A friend went to a golf clinic he did and said he wasn't great and went on about it just being his job.
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mystiroakey wrote:McLaren wrote:Is anyone else starting to think Spieth is actually quite hansom?
I dunno Mac . But your spelling isn't handsome. , Unless you are telling us Spieth is like a horse drawn carriage .
Hark at the grammar nazi!
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Local h00kers waiting for Crenshaw?
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I saw Spieth being interviewed on ESPN, earlier today and I hope he had hat hair otherwise it looks like he might be thinning a little already.
McIlroy with a chance to bounce back on 15.
McIlroy with a chance to bounce back on 15.
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SmithersJones wrote:mystiroakey wrote:McLaren wrote:Is anyone else starting to think Spieth is actually quite hansom?
I dunno Mac . But your spelling isn't handsome. , Unless you are telling us Spieth is like a horse drawn carriage .
Hark at the grammar nazi!
Reserved only for Mac.. For obvious reasons in the past
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I will happily want any England national team to win. If this was the Olympics I would cheer on poulter and case if they were competing for England. I though do not want to see almost any English team to do well in the champions league.
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He doubles as Prince William.1GrumpyGolfer wrote:I saw Spieth being interviewed on ESPN, earlier today and I hope he had hat hair otherwise it looks like he might be thinning a little already.
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I would go through the crenshaw family one at a time.
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mystiroakey wrote:incontinentia wrote:Patriotism- the idea that your country is better than everyone else's because you were born therebeninho wrote:I don't get the whole support the English guys because they are English nonsense
Not true in the slightest. Well not for all, it's more about supporting players you have followed for a long time and part of the same system you yourself has been in.
But all the same it's golf and nationality is only part of the reason to follow a player.
Anyway shall we not take this off topic. I just can't be bothered with the ignorance or the typical english stance that it's wrong to support an Englishman or english team.. It's perfectly normal in every other nation and has little to do with feeling superior.
Spot on Mysti. Most of the Olympic sports were "individual" yet we all supported our own country.
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Apart from his wife they look about 12....beninho wrote:I would go through the crenshaw family one at a time.
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Although I don't disagree with supporting your countrymen, the fact that they are competing for Team GB is a fairly major difference.John Cregan wrote:Spot on Mysti. Most of the Olympic sports were "individual" yet we all supported our own country.
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monty junior wrote:I can't stand Bruce Critchley with his "one of ours" crap and pompous attitude. Boring as hell as well, i like Butch except when he goes "attaboy" whoever, or refers to players as Rors or Poults!
It's terrible, isn't it? I was listening to the tributes to Richie Benaud on 5Live tonight and they listed his commentating tips. One of the first was 'Never say 'we' when talking about a team, swiftly followed by 'engage your brain before you open your mouth'. Critchley and indeed many of his colleagues would do well to listen to those tips. RIP Richie.
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At least Crenshaw will take home a trophy tonight.
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Starting with Big Ben, ben?beninho wrote:I would go through the crenshaw family one at a time.
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pedro wrote:Starting with Big Ben, ben?beninho wrote:I would go through the crenshaw family one at a time.
and finishing with the old caddy.
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At least his wife made the cut....
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trophy? You mean he's going to have a go at one of his daughters?
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Isn't that what they do in the southern states kwini?
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? His wife looks half his age.kwinigolfer wrote:trophy? You mean he's going to have a go at one of his daughters?
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It's not like his wife is exactly his own age, is it...kwinigolfer wrote:trophy? You mean he's going to have a go at one of his daughters?
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I'll leave that to GPB for his social commentary.
Tomorrow it'll be the Dustin and Justin show.
And, just possibly, the Woods and Garcia fried chicken fest.
Tomorrow it'll be the Dustin and Justin show.
And, just possibly, the Woods and Garcia fried chicken fest.
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Could be fun if Dustin was playing with Meth...
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Phil allways does this. Amazing player and never gives up. Don't count him out just yet.
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Incredible shot from Phil on 17!
Impressive chip in from Rory!
Impressive chip in from Rory!
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Bring on Woods vs Garcia lol!
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Very impressive from Mcilroy. If he birdies the last, he could shoot a 65/64 and who knows
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Garcia looked fried today....sirbenson wrote:Bring on Woods vs Garcia lol!
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Jamie Kennedy @jamierkennedy 9m9 minutes ago
Augusta's a 2nd shot golf course right?
Stadler: 30 GIR
Spieth: 28 GIR
Stadler: +7
Spieth: -14
Augusta's a 2nd shot golf course right?
Stadler: 30 GIR
Spieth: 28 GIR
Stadler: +7
Spieth: -14
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Weather forecast for Sat?
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http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Augusta+GA+USGA0032:1:US
It looks ok! Hopefully the course doesn't get overnight rain
It looks ok! Hopefully the course doesn't get overnight rain
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40-31 for Rory, hopefully enough to keep him interested Saturday.
Forecast for Saturday is pretty good: 82F degrees breezes about 10 mph, mostly dry. But showers on the doorstep now so course can't dry out too much. Good for Sunday also.
Forecast for Saturday is pretty good: 82F degrees breezes about 10 mph, mostly dry. But showers on the doorstep now so course can't dry out too much. Good for Sunday also.
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Now they'll probably "draw" Tiger with Rory.sirbenson wrote:Bring on Woods vs Garcia lol!
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Just thinking if weather can shake things up?
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Apparently Charley Hoffman isn't really second in the Masters, it's just a scoreboard illusion!
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His old hairdo wasn't an illusion I'm afraid...
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Bubba and Top Five paired tomorrow. If they get into a fight in the parking lot, no one will care or come to their rescue.
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Everything about him is according to Monty!
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monty junior wrote:Apparently Charley Hoffman isn't really second in the Masters, it's just a scoreboard illusion!
That was kind of odd ..
The concern with his comment is that if monty truely believes Hoffman is no threat . Speith will be under no pressure tommorow due to his playing partner.
But anyway as well as Speith has played. We need some drama or it will be Poldark and an early night Sunday for me.
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Maybe I'll run them over with my Hummer.GPB wrote:Bubba and Top Five paired tomorrow. If they get into a fight in the parking lot, no one will care or come to their rescue.
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In terms of a name he isn't as big as the guys immediately behind him but how often does the lesser known player almost play pressure free golf and end up winning. The most obvious one being Yang against Tiger in 09.
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Hibbz said a few hours ago not to hand the tournament to Spieth just yet.
Agree with that, but someone's got to make a run with a good score early on. If Spieth gets to think it's a walk in the park, it probably will be.
Agree with that, but someone's got to make a run with a good score early on. If Spieth gets to think it's a walk in the park, it probably will be.
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Counted wrong.
Reed will be paired with Blixt
Watson will be paired with Rory
Reed will be paired with Blixt
Watson will be paired with Rory
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monty junior wrote:In terms of a name he isn't as big as the guys immediately behind him but how often does the lesser known player almost play pressure free golf and end up winning. The most obvious one being Yang against Tiger in 09.
Faldo against Norman in 1996?
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First man out of the traps is Steve Stricker, probably playing with Augusta National Member Knox, wouldn't you think?
Regardless, Stricker will be off at 10.05, followed by Westwood and Lahiri (hasn't he done well??!!).
Some great pairings, with Rory and Bubba at 12.45 p.m., Woods and Garcia at 1.15 p.m., Scott and GDay at 1.45 p.m. and Dustin and Justin at 2.45 p.m., Hoffman and Spieth bringing up the rear ten minutes later.
I predict a big round for either Donaldson or Walker, paired for the third day running, but without the hoopla of Tiger.
Regardless, Stricker will be off at 10.05, followed by Westwood and Lahiri (hasn't he done well??!!).
Some great pairings, with Rory and Bubba at 12.45 p.m., Woods and Garcia at 1.15 p.m., Scott and GDay at 1.45 p.m. and Dustin and Justin at 2.45 p.m., Hoffman and Spieth bringing up the rear ten minutes later.
I predict a big round for either Donaldson or Walker, paired for the third day running, but without the hoopla of Tiger.
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