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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 11 Apr 2015, 12:14 pm

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Breaking News: London Wasps regain their crown following playoff final victory. 
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 10:52 am

Was Wink He would be decent for any in the lower half of the AP I reckon

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 10:53 am

I wouldn't have him at Falcons as a hooker

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 10:54 am

Fourie was excellent last night

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:00 am

Carter looked pretty decent back at 10 last night! Slade done a decent job but injury given Carter a chance and he took it.

Still think he is NZ's best 10 for a World Cup.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 11:04 am

As I said, hard to judge somebody in a Ba's game.

Carter seriously needs some form, I've seen talk of him not making the WC squad which I can't see. He's lost his spark for me. Cruden would have been AB 10, such a shame about his injury

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 11:05 am

For me it's Cruden, and then followed by Barrett. Then between carter, Slade and Sopoaga. With Cruden injured it just jumps the order up.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:11 am

Still a game against a decent Irish side. Breakdown work and work rate exceptional. Nothing wrong with the line out work. I'd have him at Sale in a second, along with David Smith.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:13 am

I'd be surprised if Carter wasn't the 10 come the AB's first game. Barrett will run him close but I think he might be better off the bench.

Damian McKenzie has looked exciting at 10 for the Chiefs last week. At 15 this week. Wonder if he has the control to make a go of 10 long term.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 11:14 am

Agree with that Flux.

A Ba's game isn't a real game for me Steve. Players hold back and others try things they wouldn't normally. All opinions but if never rate a player off the back of a Ba's game.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:18 am

A lot of Ireland players were playing for World Cup spots. It wasn't a full game but easily a higher level than the average AP game.

I'd agree normally but in World Cup year the international sides take it more seriously and I thought that was evident last night.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 11:33 am

Pretty good England team, reckon the guys an * next to them stand a very good chance of making WC squad.

15 Mathew Tait (Leicester Tigers)
14 Christian Wade (Wasps)
13 Elliot Daly (Wasps) *
12 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs) *
11 Marland Yarde Harlequins)
10 Danny Cipriani (Sale Sharks)
9 Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, captain)

1 Matt Mullan (Wasps)
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs) *
3 Kieran Brookes (Newcastle Falcons)
4 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
5 Joe Launchbury (Wasps) *
6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)
7 Jack Clifford (Harlequins)
8 Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:36 am

Do we know the size of the WC squad? Brookes likely to go as third TH if we take 6props.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 11:38 am

Hartley to be dropped from WC squad. Crazy Crazy call.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 11:39 am

Does the * represent your opinion on who'll make the WC squad?

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Post by BamBam Fri 29 May 2015, 11:43 am

Crazy call indeed

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 11:51 am

If you think carter lacks form then watch the game against hurricanes. Him and Nadolo were superb.

Carter will walk being First choice at WC as will Mccaw.

World class players come
To the table and peak at the right time. Same with BDP who has been miserable all year but has been bang on form for the last 4 games.

Cruden will never be anywhere near Carter.
He is yet to string 2 good back to back performances at int level.

I would have Carter and Barret above when all fit.

Mckenzie is a bolter for
The World Cup. Super talent and he will be in a great battle with Barret long term for that nz 10 shirt when Carter retires

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 11:51 am

Yeah that is my opinion.

That is ridiculous. It shouldn't have even been a ban in the first place. Lancaster is making some massively rash decisions.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 11:59 am

Lancaster is a clown.
Have wanted him out from day one.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 12:03 pm

I have lost all confidence in Lancaster, he gives guys who are woefully out of form chance after chance, makes awful substitutions during games and has been lucky in that he has only given guys like Ford and JJ a chance because of injuries to key players.

He's like a school teacher, as opposed to an international coach - compare how NZ managed situations where Savea and Nonu were charged with assault to the Tuilagi incident.

Yeah he did a great job when he first came in and sorted things out, but this is just crazy.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 12:04 pm

He is out of his depth full stop

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Post by BamBam Fri 29 May 2015, 12:05 pm

George takes Hartley's place

Chris - I have no issue with Manu being taken out of the squad, but agree that Hartley should not have been given this ban.

Once he was banned, its pretty difficult to keep him in while only having 2 other hookers

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 12:10 pm

I don't either with Tuilagi, he deserved it for getting himself into the situation.

Do have massive misgivings with Hartley, the ban would clearly have given Youngs the starting shirt, but missing one game when England have the chance to go all the way to the semis.

As much as people dislike Hartley he's well respected by teammates and we are going to miss someone with close to 70 caps during the tournament.

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Post by BamBam Fri 29 May 2015, 12:11 pm

http://www.englandrugby.com/news/dylan-hartley-withdrawn-from-rwc-training-squad/

RFU statement

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 12:19 pm

Hartley is a key player. Agree fluxy Manu could not be selected but not having hartley means we lose our best hooker and a leader. All the best hookers are confrontational and on the edge BDP strauss Moore creevy etc

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 12:28 pm

BDP was banned earlier this season for stamping on someones face - probably the one thing Hartley hasn't done (yet).

Personally not sure how he got a 4 week ban, when Bai did the charge into Hughes' face and got a red card and a 3 week ban.

Never knew you could get cited for something that had been picked up by TMO, especially when they didn't even view it as a yellow.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 12:28 pm

George has been great this season, comfortably the best hooker in the AP with Youngs playing well the 2nd half.

Hartley hasn't been great for a while, he's no major loss

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 May 2015, 12:42 pm

That's simply isn't true Pooly. Hartley is the country's best hooker by some distance. I worry about our lineout now. no one else's arrows as good as Hartleys. Is Webber in the squad?

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 12:42 pm

So the hookers in the squad are LCD Youngs and Webber with George now being promoted from 4th hooker slot in squad is that right ?

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 12:44 pm

I just find it funny that the player he headbutted is now taking his place!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 12:45 pm

Hartley's darts have been poor this year Steve, he's really dropped off his game.

George surely has to be ahead of LCD who's nowhere near ready for Int rugby.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 12:46 pm

Yeah George has been promoted into the squad Mat. It looks like it will be Youngs, Webber and LCD now.

Agree with you completely there Steve. This is a huge blow for us, as don't think Webber has played particularly well of late, Youngs darts towards back of lineout can go to pieces and LCD so untested.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 12:47 pm

Agree Steve there is a reason why George was 5 th choice as well as he has played this year. I rate him though.

I think pooly you have to look at it not just from the point of view of George is playing well Hartley will not be missed.

Hartley brings big game experoence superb darts leadership aggression physicality in way George does not. you never see a side win a world cup without leaders in key positions

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 12:48 pm

If this was last year I'd be concerned, Hartley has been poor this season.

Youngs & Webber will be before George anyway.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 May 2015, 1:02 pm

I've always been a fan of Hartley, but his temperament in big games lets him down time and time again. AP final, gets sent off and misses the Lions tour, play off semi, cited and misses RWC. It's the right call call leaving him out, he would be a liability in a big game, and in a World Cup semi final or final against the top sides in the world, we need to keep 15 men on the pitch.
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 1:04 pm

Saying that Pete, he has a better international disciplinary record than most other hookers, can only recall the one yellow card (could be wrong) in 66 caps.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 1:09 pm

That's another point to make as well. Is it fair to say that perhaps Hartley is doing a bit of a 'Nonu of old' and playing his better games and being a bit more conservative in the internationals?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 May 2015, 1:11 pm

I generally try to stay away from the Tom Youngs debate as he's my player on here, and I do accept that there have been times when he has missed his jumpers, but then again so has every hooker in the world ever at one time or another. What I would say is that if you remove that part of his game from the equation, as it's one that people don't agree on, he has generally speaking put in superior performances to Hartley in a white jersey.

England's best performance in recent times was beating the AB's a couple of years back. In that game we were dynamic and got on the front foot through powerful carrying and excellent work at the breakdown. Tom Youngs started that game and was a huge part of that.
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 1:22 pm

I do agree Pete, but at the same time his throwing in can be a real issue - he's improving all the time in that area, but a lot of the stats don't show how often he goes to the front with his throws - England with Ford, JJ and Watson could destroy teams with quick ball from there.

Personally think Youngs is a remarkable player to go from never having been a hooker to gaining international recognition is a matter of years is unheard of and I'd have picked him to start ahead of Hartley in the first game.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 1:29 pm

LCD was on fire at end of season and apparently training well in England squad and was tipped to get spot ahead of Webber who I personally would have picked ahead of him

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 May 2015, 1:38 pm

Have been a lot of good performances coming through, can see Itoje taking the fourth lock spot if he puts in a performance this weekend - although have to say that Attwood has really upped his game the last few weeks, so could be very interesting there.

Slade, Daly, LCD have all been in cracking form - think that Slade will likely edge out Cipriani in the WC squad if he plays well against the BaaBaas at no12 this weekend. Daly will surely go as replacement for Tuilagi as well.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 1:49 pm

Local papers saying online that Ross Moriarty is going to be added to Wales world cup squad.

Been great for glos this year and will an england player of the future. Be a shame to lose him to Wales.

Will hit my EQ also

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 2:04 pm

Decent player, but way too early for him to be included in any international squad

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 2:07 pm

Fluxy I agree. He is a way off for me but for a lad his age he has been great this year.

Since turn of year been one of glos best players. Gatland trying to snag a few players before england do like Francis and Moriarty. Both a way off int rugby but future players.
If he caps them in a nonsense game it ties them to Wales

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 2:11 pm

Yeah I understand the theory of getting them in early. But if they have serious thoughts about gaining international honours, would consider about saying 'nah you're alright at the minute'. I know everyone would jump at the opportunity, however if they really wanted to play for England say, they won't get the same attention trying to play the nations off each other.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 2:15 pm

Agree again fluxy. I hope both Francis and Moriarty say no as they could be future England players.

Part of me says hope they do get in Wales World Cup squad as Wales will be weaker for it

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 2:17 pm

If you're going to agree with so much mate, I'm going to throw some one sided offers at you!

Eztebeth for Flood sure sounds like a good start Wink

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Post by Guest Fri 29 May 2015, 2:24 pm

Flood for Tim Payne to come out from retirement would be fair based on floods performance this year

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 May 2015, 2:30 pm

Ah to be fair Flood has had some good games for Toulouse I thought (not just saying that because he's my lad!), well at least when the first dozen or so games was decent. I imagine it's a bit chop and change since then and hence form has dropped because of that.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 May 2015, 2:36 pm

Mortality is a mile off playing Int rugby, good luck to him.

Youngs struggled with his darts at Int level, LCD struggles at LV level! He'd be a liability for England.

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Post by BamBam Fri 29 May 2015, 2:45 pm

Moriarty could be useful looking ahead to 2019, pretty pathetic of Wales if they're willing to cap someone like him in a nothing game for that reason

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