Is Arnold Schwarzenegger the greatest or chronically overrated !!

Still regarded as the greatest of alltime and a great bodybuilder..... no doubts...

But he had pretty poor legs..............and I think Sergio Oliva was robbed because Arnie would sell more magazines........

Oliva's physique was flawless.............

As for Arnie's 1980 Olympia win the less said the better.......................Zane and a few others boycotted 81 because they were so disgusted and Mentzer retired !!

One only has to look at Columbo winning (Arnie's best mate) in 81 with gyno all over his pec..............To see that it was a dodgy competition.......

In fact Zane commented to participants that If Columbo was in it you're wasting your time.............

I don't think Arnie was the greatest............I don't think he was chronically overrated...........

But I do think he's overrated..........

Not a top 5 Bodybuilder for me............

Should have won three Olympias 73-75........................Not seven..

Oliva, Haney, Coleman, Yates, Cutler.............Should all come before him.............With Zane and Arnie pickem for 6th !!

Anyone who loves the sport of bodybuilding knows the name of Sergio Oliva, known as 'the Myth'. I greatly admired him and consider him to be the all-time world's greatest physique. I saw him in competition many times, including his shows against Arnold. There is no doubt that with his wide shoulders and narrow hip structure he was superior to any other Bodybuilder of his generation. Sergio was not only the most aesthetic bodybuilder on stage but also the biggest. Sergio Oliva is considered by most to be the world's most genetically gifted bodybuilder.

Well... it depends. Is calling Arnie the greatest indefensible? No, I don't think so. Do I think he's the greatest? No.

Oliva was called "the myth" for a reason, Reckon Liam has it right, the inverted pyramid he had going because of his narrow waistline is ridiculous. Would stick him at #1. Maybe Yates #2. Flex Wheeler #3. Then four and five are personal, guys I would most prefer to look like #4. Nubret #5 Columbu. Not a fan of Cutler or Coleman. The distended stomach look too closely resembles a pregnant cow

LiamB wrote:Anyone who loves the sport of bodybuilding knows the name of Sergio Oliva, known as 'the Myth'. I greatly admired him and consider him to be the all-time world's greatest physique. I saw him in competition many times, including his shows against Arnold. There is no doubt that with his wide shoulders and narrow hip structure he was superior to any other Bodybuilder of his generation. Sergio was not only the most aesthetic bodybuilder on stage but also the biggest. Sergio Oliva is considered by most to be the world's most genetically gifted bodybuilder.

Liam great post................How old are you mate ??......

The fact Sergio was Cuban and lacking in personality did for him..............in my opinion.............

Arnie was a once in a lifetime character.............I'm a big fan of him and his movies..................

Loved the Myth though.........................

kingraf wrote:Well... it depends. Is calling Arnie the greatest indefensible? No, I don't think so. Do I think he's the greatest? No.

Oliva was called "the myth" for a reason, Reckon Liam has it right, the inverted pyramid he had going because of his narrow waistline is ridiculous. Would stick him at #1. Maybe Yates #2. Flex Wheeler #3. Then four and five are personal,  guys I would most prefer to look like #4. Nubret  #5 Columbu. Not a fan of Cutler or Coleman. The distended stomach look too closely resembles a pregnant cow

Ronnie's chest before he got too big..................Was one of the best I've ever seen along with Levrone's shoulders...........

Yates back is the best I've seen also..........

Beckles, Robinson and Arnie's arms are the best for me...........Zane's symmetry..

I'm one of the few guys that hated Platz legs.............Thought they ruined him...........Never can get proportion with monsters like them !!

HGH has murdered bodybuilding..

Olivia is the best bodybuilder.

Zane had the best physique.

AdamT wrote:Olivia is the best bodybuilder.

Zane had the best physique.

I'm not sure I understand..

Well bodybuilding is about size and Shape, Olivia Has that down to a t.

Though in my opinion I would much rather look like Frank.

In other words Oliva would win a bodbuilding comp but give me Zanes physique for the beach

Now I get you..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Now I get you..

Zane was perfect but he was a 190-200lb bodybuilder. P4P he is much better than the freaks in my eyes.

He's my idol when it comes to bodybuilding...........

Fantastic shape, the vacum pose is legendary.

The guys now are that bloated from overuse of hgh they couldn't do it.

Hgh and insulin should be banned. Bodybuilding was much better when guys stuck to their primo's,deca, dbol etc.

Not sure how you could reasonably ban HGH and Insulin, but leave Dbol and everything else. How could you even write that rule down without it becoming a farce. Easiest would be to negatively mark a distended stomach.

kingraf wrote:Not sure how you could reasonably ban HGH and Insulin, but leave Dbol and everything else. How could you even write that rule down without it becoming a farce. Easiest would be to negatively mark a distended stomach.

Naw I agree mate, just think the other drugs has ruined the sport. Personally I don't agree way drugs full stop but in bodybuilding they are necessary.

Definitely agree on the negative marking on huge guts.

Arnold is the greatest in the same way as Ali was the greatest.  Massive talent and great showmanship.  Neither is the greatest in their sport though.  Lee Haney and Ronnie Coleman have the most titles and both blew their competition out of the water. Arnold was handed the 1972 and 1980 Olympia's.  Haney was special and retired young with 8 Sandows under his arm. He had an incredible back like all the best Olympia winners.  By the End Ronnie's back was off the scale, total cartoon mass.

Bodybuilding competition has always favored size.

The greatest genetics: Sergio, Levrone, Wheeler, Nubret, Reeves, Lee Priest, Grimeck etc