McGuigan: Hearn Wouldn't Accept 60-40 Split

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:50 am

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Barry McGuigan wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/32456855

World champion Carl Frampton will not be fighting Scott Quigg this summer, according to the former's manager and promoter Barry McGuigan.

It was hoped Belfast fighter Frampton, the IBF super-bantamweight champion, and Bury boxer Quigg, who holds a portion of the WBA title, would meet in July in a huge Battle of Britain showdown.

But McGuigan said Quigg's team would not agree on a 60-40 purse split in favour of Frampton and blamed Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn for the way the talks have collapsed.

"It's sad for the fans because we wanted it to happen," McGuigan told BBC Sport.

"Carl was willing to travel to England to put his title on the line, and when the champion does that he normally gets the majority of the purse.

"Carl is a valid champion. Scott Quigg is the WBA's 'regular' champion, not the real champion, which is (Cuba's) Guillermo Rigondeaux.

"Carl has drawn crowds of 16,000 in Belfast. I don't want to be rude to Scott Quigg, but he's never headlined a show.

"We wanted a minimum of 60-40, not the winner takes 60-40 (as Hearn is on record as offering) because that's unfair on the fighters."

Hearn appeared on Sky Sports earlier this month brandishing a £1.5million cheque, which he promised Frampton if he took the unification fight.

But former featherweight world champion McGuigan said: "It was going along fine and then Eddie Hearn said: 'We're going to make you an offer.'

"He did it because he's bullish, he's cocky and he thinks he has control of everything, but he hasn't.

"They weren't willing to play ball. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. We're well on the way to getting another opponent."

Frampton, 28, is unbeaten in 20 professional fights and stopped the American Chris Avalos to retain his IBF belt in March.

Unbeaten Quigg, 26, successfully defended his super-bantamweight title for a fifth time in November with a unanimous points win over Hidenori Otake.

Seems pretty rerasonable if you ask me. Also it seems to highlight how much of a tool Eddie Hearn is.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:22 pm

Strongback wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's the only clout that matters unfortunately and it's about time some people realised that before carrying on as if it doesn't matter, the seller of any fight is the one with the financial backing not necessarily the bigger fanbase.

Don King had no money when he made a deal to provide a $5,000,000 purse for Ali v Foreman.

McGuigan has run a promotions so I'm sure he could hire a football stadium and put the fight together and air it on ITV.

Yeh, because it's so easy to do...... Rolling Eyes

Warren is an extremely experienced promoter but his last show (can't remember it was either stadium or arena) was an absolute shambles, an unmitigated disaster.

But yes, Barry M could just put in a couple of calls and get it all sorted on a wink & a handshake and pull off a perfectly running event......... Rolling Eyes

by TopHat24/7 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:27 pm

horizontalhero wrote:
aja424 wrote:Out of interest, and I know no-one on here will no for certain, but how much money would you guess that Frampton would have sitting in his account after stoppages and paying everyone, from being paid £1.5million?

Somewhere around the £500K mark. The tax man will take around a third, Barry will have 10-20% of it, and then there are training costs.

Presume he'll pay costs before the tax-man, minimise his tax liability. Assume various costs and cuts add up to roughly a third (£500k), he'll then pay a chunk (close to 45%) in tax leaving him with c.£500-550k in the pocket.

Pretty good for a few months' work.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:41 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:But what the point is SoF. The only way through to PPV will be to bow down (Not that there's too much bowing down to do) to Hearns offer. Which is fair, 60/40 to the winner. How do you suggest the fight take place, if your answer is on Sky PPV, then Hearn has the ace.

Well think Frampton has the 'Ace' because 1) The fight can't happen without him 2) He has the belt

Am not suggesting the fight shouldn't take place. But if Hearn and Quigg really want it, 60/40 split in the champions favor is fair.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:46 pm

Both have titles...........One is perhaps better than the other but bollox to alphabets....

If you can't see that 1.5 million for a midget is astronomical (I gave you the Rosario-Chavez purses)

Then there isn't much hope for you..

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:49 pm

The fight also can't happen without Quigg and he's the one with the financial backing, if Mcguigan thinks/thought the fight would be big money on ITV he could have negotiated that directly with Quigg cutting Hearn out altogether.

by Guest82 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:57 pm

Does Frampton selling out arenas in Belfast matter?

Surely PPV is where a majority of the money will come from? Even at Wembley stadium 80,000 people paying say £25 per ticket is £2m.

What sort of PPV numbers would this do? Froch v Groves did 900k - say this does 500k at £20 then that is £10m.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:00 pm

You don't know how many PPVs it would do............

Both haven't got big names outside of the Boxing fraternity..........

At the end of the day the promoter has to have the money to put up the show and he takes the risk..........

Mcguigan can't make the fight........

by Coxy001 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:12 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You don't know how many PPVs it would do............

Both haven't got big names outside of the Boxing fraternity..........

At the end of the day the promoter has to have the money to put up the show and he takes the risk..........

Mcguigan can't make the fight........

Bloody hell Truss, twice in a day I 100% agree....

Barry has four fighters in his "promotion company". He can't get Frampton the same money elsewhere, Hearn would make it a big event and get it selling on PPV, he has the resource that Barry doesn't. Heck, the little Irish twonkmonkey can't even keep his website updated from February when the Avalos fight happened (still saying "Live on Feb 28th"!!)

Would make me chuckle if Frampton ditched Barry to get this fight and a career high payday (potentially one of the biggest earnings from a SBW fight as well??).

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:13 pm

Guest82 wrote:Does Frampton selling out arenas in Belfast matter?

Surely PPV is where a majority of the money will come from? Even at Wembley stadium 80,000 people paying say £25 per ticket is £2m.

What sort of PPV numbers would this do? Froch v Groves did 900k - say this does 500k at £20 then that is £10m.

No way are 500,000 people paying £20 to see this fight, anybody who thinks this fight is anywhere near as big as Froch/Groves is well off mark.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:14 pm

Doubt it'll come close to Froch-Groves, but if it can do 250k (pretty small by PPV standards) that's still £5m.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:17 pm

Froch - Groves tickled the average sports fans buttons with all the hype and controversy of the first fight...

The fight was a one off..

They weren't midgets either..

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:20 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Both have titles...........One is perhaps better than the other but bollox to alphabets....

If you can't see that 1.5 million for a midget is astronomical (I gave you the Rosario-Chavez purses)

Then there isn't much hope for you..

Yer Truss, you proclaim fight purses from the 80's (you love that decade) and I am just meant to take your word for it no scource or anything? Likes its relavent to whats happening here anyway?

Again point being missed, why should Frampton take less then Quigg?

What do you mean there isn't much hope for me, like I REALLY give one about this fight happening/not happening. I have got a life.

Frampton has got a actual title which has been held by the likes of Pacquiao, Vazquez, Donaire etc. Quigg hasn't even got a full title.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:22 pm

Was talking more about the first fight Truss where Froch made about £3mil to Groves £500k, can't see how two lesser names make more than that or fight in a bigger arena.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:23 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Both have titles...........One is perhaps better than the other but bollox to alphabets....

If you can't see that 1.5 million for a midget is astronomical (I gave you the Rosario-Chavez purses)

Then there isn't much hope for you..

Yer Truss, you proclaim fight purses from the 80's (you love that decade) and I am just meant to take your word for it no scource or anything? Likes its relavent to whats happening here anyway?

Again point being missed, why should Frampton take less then Quigg?

What do you mean there isn't much hope for me, like I REALLY give one about this fight happening/not happening. I have got a life.

Frampton has got a actual title which has been held by the likes of Pacquiao, Vazquez, Donaire etc. Quigg hasn't even got a full title.

He got $400,000 for Chavez...............Now you can believe me or not.......

I'm not arsed..

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:24 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Froch - Groves tickled the average sports fans buttons with all the hype and controversy of the first fight...

The fight was a one off..

They weren't midgets either..

I would love to see you call them 'midgets' to there faces

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:25 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Was talking more about the first fight Truss where Froch made about £3mil to Groves £500k, can't see how two lesser names make more than that or fight in a bigger arena.

Froch was a big name over here and had headlined PPVs....and Groves had headlined against Degale in a pretty big grudge fight..

Bit different I agree with these two..

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:26 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Both have titles...........One is perhaps better than the other but bollox to alphabets....

If you can't see that 1.5 million for a midget is astronomical (I gave you the Rosario-Chavez purses)

Then there isn't much hope for you..

Yer Truss, you proclaim fight purses from the 80's (you love that decade) and I am just meant to take your word for it no scource or anything? Likes its relavent to whats happening here anyway?

Again point being missed, why should Frampton take less then Quigg?

What do you mean there isn't much hope for me, like I REALLY give one about this fight happening/not happening. I have got a life.

Frampton has got a actual title which has been held by the likes of Pacquiao, Vazquez, Donaire etc. Quigg hasn't even got a full title.

He got $400,000 for Chavez...............Now you can believe me or not.......

I'm not arsed..

Doesn't make it true....

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:27 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Froch - Groves tickled the average sports fans buttons with all the hype and controversy of the first fight...

The fight was a one off..

They weren't midgets either..

I would love to see you call them 'midgets' to there faces

I'm nearly 16 stone............I wouldn't sweat it too much...

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:30 pm

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/calendar-gancho/2013/06

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:31 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Froch - Groves tickled the average sports fans buttons with all the hype and controversy of the first fight...

The fight was a one off..

They weren't midgets either..

I would love to see you call them 'midgets' to there faces

I'm nearly 16 stone............I wouldn't sweat it too much...

So you say...... Rolling Eyes

Trussman

McGuigan: Hearn Wouldn't Accept 60-40 Split - Page 2 2Q==

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:35 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/calendar-gancho/2013/06

Cheers for the article..........

I wear contact lenses now soldier..

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:38 pm

Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:39 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/calendar-gancho/2013/06

Cheers for the article..........

I wear contact lenses now soldier..

All in jest......

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:44 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:45 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

$600,000 would be about $1.8milll in todays money. Not much at all............

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:47 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

$600,000 would be about $1.8milll in todays money. Not much at all............

Chavez was a big star....................Number 1 lightweight vs Number 1 jr lightweight....

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:51 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

$600,000 would be about $1.8milll in todays money. Not much at all............

Would actually equate to around £800k in todays money, the big issue is that Mcguigan thinks Frampton is worth more than he actually is. British fight fans primarily want to see Brook vs Khan or either one of them against the winner of Mayweather/Pacquiao, the fight just isn't that big, it's more comparable to Bellew against Cleverley.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:55 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

$600,000 would be about $1.8milll in todays money. Not much at all............

Chavez was a big star....................Number 1 lightweight vs Number 1 jr lightweight....

Boxing has moved on from the 80's Truss......

Fights are alot more accessible nowadays. Lots of ways to make revenue streams via advertisement and PPVs and we can now hype fights via social media and news dedicated sports channels etc..... Scary world these days.....

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:56 pm

Oh come on...

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:57 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Say nothing about Rosario's purse..........

Gives an indication that it wasn't massive considering that JCC got $600,000.

$600,000 would be about $1.8milll in todays money. Not much at all............

Would actually equate to around £800k in todays money...

How do you work that one out?

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:00 pm

Open your eyes and look at the currency.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:04 pm

George Groves in the biggest British superfight I've ever seen in 26 years over here with 80,000 at Wembley stadium and hundreds of thousand buys on PPV...

Got £2 million.............

Some relative no-name is puking on £1.5 million........For a very winnable fight..

In a fight a quarter of the size...

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05 pm

Already have done, just curious to see how you think $1.8mill equats to £800k.

Looks like I needn't bother...

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:06 pm

US inflation isn't as high as it is in the UK that's why, $600k is actually around $1.25mil not $1.8mil.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:George Groves in the biggest British superfight I've ever seen in 26 years over here with 80,000 at Wembley stadium and hundreds of thousand buys on PPV...

Got £2 million.............

Some relative no-name is puking on £1.5 million........For a very winnable fight..

In a fight a quarter of the size...

Groves was the challenger and if he went down the mandated route he would have got less.

Froch got £8mill

Your point?

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:09 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:US inflation isn't as high as it is in the UK that's why, $600k is actually around $1.25mil not $1.8mil.

If you say so Rolling Eyes

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:09 pm

Don't give me that challenger crap.....

Frampton is a no name..................Froch was a big name..

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:09 pm

Groves did go down the mandated route which is why his purse was so low in comparison to Froch.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:12 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Groves did go down the mandated route which is why his purse was so low in comparison to Froch.

Maditories get 85%-15% split

How did he get £2mill and Froch £8mill??

He went down that route so Froch had to fight him or vacate, but Eddie still paid him more then the 15% because he desperately wanted this fight to happen.

by Strongback Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:15 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's the only clout that matters unfortunately and it's about time some people realised that before carrying on as if it doesn't matter, the seller of any fight is the one with the financial backing not necessarily the bigger fanbase.

Don King had no money when he made a deal to provide a $5,000,000 purse for Ali v Foreman.

McGuigan has run a promotions so I'm sure he could hire a football stadium and put the fight together and air it on ITV.

Yeh, because it's so easy to do......

Warren is an extremely experienced promoter but his last show (can't remember it was either stadium or arena) was an absolute shambles, an unmitigated disaster.

But yes, Barry M could just put in a couple of calls and get it all sorted on a wink & a handshake and pull off a perfectly running event.........

You are aware McGuigan has been running sold out shows in Befast for a few years. They spend the same pound sterling there as they do in England.

Maybe you also missed the promotion McGuigan put on for ITV.

McGuigan is well capable of putting a fight together on ITV. Eddie will never let his fighters fight on ITV as Sky is his big money maker.

Some day some of you goons may use your use the ounce of wit knocking around between your ears.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:26 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Groves did go down the mandated route which is why his purse was so low in comparison to Froch.

Maditories get 85%-15% split

How did he get £2mill and Froch £8mill??

He went down that route so Froch had to fight him or vacate, but Eddie still paid him more then the 15% because he desperately wanted this fight to happen.

Factually incorrect i'm afraid.

Groves appealed to the IBF for an immediate rematch which they granted but they rejected his appeal for a higher share of the purse as he was still the mandatory challenger, Hearn shifting slightly on the split doesn't mysteriously make Groves anything but a mandatory.

Also Strongy, Hearn can't stop Quigg fighting on ITV, this is where you come across as bitter considering you yourself have mentioned it in the past.

by Derbymanc Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:28 pm

Quiggs not one of his fighters Strongy, he can use who he wants. As everyone else has said, if Bazza can put on a show of that size, then get it sorted.

by Coxy001 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:29 pm

Strongback wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's the only clout that matters unfortunately and it's about time some people realised that before carrying on as if it doesn't matter, the seller of any fight is the one with the financial backing not necessarily the bigger fanbase.

Don King had no money when he made a deal to provide a $5,000,000 purse for Ali v Foreman.

McGuigan has run a promotions so I'm sure he could hire a football stadium and put the fight together and air it on ITV.

Yeh, because it's so easy to do......

Warren is an extremely experienced promoter but his last show (can't remember it was either stadium or arena) was an absolute shambles, an unmitigated disaster.

But yes, Barry M could just put in a couple of calls and get it all sorted on a wink & a handshake and pull off a perfectly running event.........

You are aware McGuigan has been running sold out shows in Befast for a few years. They spend the same pound sterling there as they do in England.

Maybe you also missed the promotion McGuigan put on for ITV.

McGuigan is well capable of putting a fight together on ITV. Eddie will never let his fighters fight on ITV as Sky is his big money maker.

Some day some of you goons may use your use the ounce of wit knocking around between your ears.

Hearn created and promoted the biggest earning fight on British soils history. £22m to be precise. The fight was broadcast in 60 countries worldwide.

It's easy to sell out an arena when he's the only decent fighter around in that part of the woods. But a good promoter outside of someones fanboy circle Barry Mac isn't. the average punter had absolutely no idea he was fighting on ITV. Barely 2m viewers...!!!! Audley Harrison vs Williams had 6m watching them!! thumbsup

Yeah, Barry Mac is really the promoter extraordinaire!!

by Strongback Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:36 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Groves did go down the mandated route which is why his purse was so low in comparison to Froch.

Maditories get 85%-15% split

How did he get £2mill and Froch £8mill??

He went down that route so Froch had to fight him or vacate, but Eddie still paid him more then the 15% because he desperately wanted this fight to happen.

Factually incorrect i'm afraid.

Groves appealed to the IBF for an immediate rematch which they granted but they rejected his appeal for a higher share of the purse as he was still the mandatory challenger, Hearn shifting slightly on the split doesn't mysteriously make Groves anything but a mandatory.

Also Strongy, Hearn can't stop Quigg fighting on ITV, this is where you come across as bitter considering you yourself have mentioned it in the past.

Be a big boy now............Quigg won't do anything to upset Matchroom. This is boxing promotion 101 stuff.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:41 pm

How does that work then, why would Quigg be bothered about upsetting such a dastardly and awful promoter if meant he earned more money?

by Derbymanc Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:42 pm

Do you not think the fact that he isn't exclusively signed up to them tells you different Strongy???

by Strongback Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:45 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's the only clout that matters unfortunately and it's about time some people realised that before carrying on as if it doesn't matter, the seller of any fight is the one with the financial backing not necessarily the bigger fanbase.

Don King had no money when he made a deal to provide a $5,000,000 purse for Ali v Foreman.

McGuigan has run a promotions so I'm sure he could hire a football stadium and put the fight together and air it on ITV.

Yeh, because it's so easy to do......

Warren is an extremely experienced promoter but his last show (can't remember it was either stadium or arena) was an absolute shambles, an unmitigated disaster.

But yes, Barry M could just put in a couple of calls and get it all sorted on a wink & a handshake and pull off a perfectly running event.........

You are aware McGuigan has been running sold out shows in Befast for a few years. They spend the same pound sterling there as they do in England.

Maybe you also missed the promotion McGuigan put on for ITV.

McGuigan is well capable of putting a fight together on ITV. Eddie will never let his fighters fight on ITV as Sky is his big money maker.

Some day some of you goons may use your use the ounce of wit knocking around between your ears.

Hearn created and promoted the biggest earning fight on British soils history. £22m to be precise. The fight was broadcast in 60 countries worldwide.

It's easy to sell out an arena when he's the only decent fighter around in that part of the woods. But a good promoter outside of someones fanboy circle Barry Mac isn't. the average punter had absolutely no idea he was fighting on ITV. Barely 2m viewers...!!!! Audley Harrison vs Williams had 6m watching them!!

Yeah, Barry Mac is really the promoter extraordinaire!!

Eddie would be faffing around as an estate agent if he didn't have his daddy behind him.

McGuigan knows what the promotion is worth and is fighting for the best deal he can get.........Eddie will come out with the lions share one way or the other as he's the promoter. Eddie won't do 60-40 even though he stands to make a killing on the fight. Sounds like they are as stubborn as each other.

As for Truss quoting 80's fights what the continental f**k has that got to do with the price of a punnet of strawberries in Essex in 2015.

by Strongback Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:47 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:How does that work then, why would Quigg be bothered about upsetting such a dastardly and awful promoter if meant he earned more money?

You'll regress back into the womb at this rate.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:49 pm

I'm genuinely intrigued how that works, you're quick to tell us at any given opportunity how awful Eddie Hearn so it figures that one of boxers would be quick to screw him over especially one not bound to any channel exclusivity.

Could it be that Scott Quigg knows like everyone else the fight isn't worth that much if it isn't promoted by Matchroom on Sky Sports?

by TopHat24/7 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:50 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's the only clout that matters unfortunately and it's about time some people realised that before carrying on as if it doesn't matter, the seller of any fight is the one with the financial backing not necessarily the bigger fanbase.

Don King had no money when he made a deal to provide a $5,000,000 purse for Ali v Foreman.

McGuigan has run a promotions so I'm sure he could hire a football stadium and put the fight together and air it on ITV.

Yeh, because it's so easy to do......

Warren is an extremely experienced promoter but his last show (can't remember it was either stadium or arena) was an absolute shambles, an unmitigated disaster.

But yes, Barry M could just put in a couple of calls and get it all sorted on a wink & a handshake and pull off a perfectly running event.........

You are aware McGuigan has been running sold out shows in Befast for a few years. They spend the same pound sterling there as they do in England.

Maybe you also missed the promotion McGuigan put on for ITV.

McGuigan is well capable of putting a fight together on ITV. Eddie will never let his fighters fight on ITV as Sky is his big money maker.

Some day some of you goons may use your use the ounce of wit knocking around between your ears.

Hearn created and promoted the biggest earning fight on British soils history. £22m to be precise. The fight was broadcast in 60 countries worldwide.

It's easy to sell out an arena when he's the only decent fighter around in that part of the woods. But a good promoter outside of someones fanboy circle Barry Mac isn't. the average punter had absolutely no idea he was fighting on ITV. Barely 2m viewers...!!!! Audley Harrison vs Williams had 6m watching them!!

Yeah, Barry Mac is really the promoter extraordinaire!!

Exactly.

It's akin to saying just because I can organise a few mates coming round to watch the footy with some beers n snacks I'm therefore capable of matching Guy Pelly with a multi-million pound sell-out of Mahiki with the great & the good (of C-list...) turning up.

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