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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue May 31, 2011 10:24 am

WELCOME TO SAINTS

LINKS
Main Site: https://www.606v2.com/f116-euro-rugby-league-season-4
Last Years Foreign Transfers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A73938955

SQUAD (25/32)

HOOKERS
Dylan Hartley HK - not for sale
Dimitri Swarzeski HK - not for sale
Aled de Malmanche HK/LH/TH

PROPS
Soane Tonga’uhia 1LH/3TH - injured returns week 16
Brian Mujati 3TH - injured returns week 17
Jannie Du Plessis 3TH
Duncan Jones 1LH/3T

SECOND ROW (LK)
Paul O'Connell LK
Donncha O'Callaghan LK
Ryan Jones LK/N8/FL

BACK ROW
James Haskell N8/FL
Willem Alberts N8/FL
Johnnie Beattie N8/FL
Nick Easter N8/FL6

SCRUM HALF
Mike Phillips SH
Luke Burgess SH

FLY HALF
Colin Slade FH/FB/WG/CN
Damien Traille FB/FH/CN - injured returns week 18

CENTRE
Felipe Contepomi FH/CN
Mathieu Bastareaud CN
Mike Tindall CN

BACK THREE
Chris Ashton WG
Matt Banahan CN/WG - injured returns week 15
Bryan Habana WG (on loan to stade - return week 16)
David Strettle CN/WG
Topsy Ojo WG (on loan returns to Stade week 16)

Strongest line up:

tbc

INJURIES
Matt Banahan returns week 14
Soane Tonga'uhia returns week 15
Brian Mujati returns week 16
Damien Traille returns week 17

BUDGET
£15m

Starting budget May 2011: £10.5 mil
New manager bins: £10 mil
Predo Bonus: £12 mil
Monthly Bonus: 10 mil
Pulls extra bonus: 10 mil
Players sold: £74.5 mil
Players Bought: £111 mil

TRANSFERS IN
Duncan Jones transfer £9 mil
Johnnie Beattie from Highlanders
Chris Ashton from Highlanders
Mike Tindall for £20 mil
James Haskell (& £ mil) from Toulon
Dimitri Swarzeski from Touon
Nick Easter for £23 mil
LEigh Halfpenny (& £3 Mil) from Saracens
Donnacha O'Callaghan £22 mil
Mike Phillips (& 9mil) from Clermont
Jannie Du Plessie (& £18mil) from Bath
Nick Abendanon - from Bath
Butch James - from Bath
Aled de Malmanche - £18 mil
Francois Louw - £20 mil
Andrew Hore - £20 mil
Felipe Contempomi from Clermont
Mathieu Bastareaud from Bath
Matt Banahan from Bath
Jerome Thion from Bath
Willem Alberts from Saracens
Gavin Heson from Saracens
Andries Bekker from Saracens
David Strettle from saracens

TRANSFERS OUT
Nick Abendanon to Worcester
Imanol Harinordoquy to highlanders
Leigh Halfpenny to highlanders
Andrew Hore to Toulon
Francois Louw to Toulon
Andries Bekker to Saracens
Butch James to Clermont
Lee Dickson to Clermont
Owen Franks - to Bath
Stephen Myler - to Bath
Phil Dowson - to Bath
Sam warbutrton to Clermont
Ben Foden to Bath
James Gaskell to Bath
Shontayne Hape to Bath
Rocky Elsom to Saracens
Leigh Halfpenny to Saracens
Brad Barritt to Saracens
Jerome Thion to Saracens
Gonzalo Canale to releases
Christian Day to releases
Billy Twelvetrees to releases


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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 10:36 am

Alright mate, as you can see from the old page, im after warburton. Any chance of

Warburton 4 Robshaw?

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 10:47 am

Ok doke, how about

Mujati + Warburton
4
Cole + Robshaw + 3m?

Although Mujati in great form, Cole is rated higher on here and was about 3-5 in the top 10s, whilst Mujati sneaked into some lists around 9th. Not that it matters, as you have Franks, who was 2nd!

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Post by Driver Tue May 31, 2011 10:57 am

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 11:03 am

Warburton & Gaskell

for

Lawes & Contempomi

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Can't do that, but would be happy to do

Contempomi for Warburton

I have stock in the centres and Felipe would be a big upgrade on EFS and would save you the cash!

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 11:12 am

The week that shows is the week the player returns, so for week 9 you have 4 injuries. Hope that makes sense.

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 11:20 am

I don't think you've missed any monthly bonuses - I've been pretty hot on the finances this year on the homepage Wink

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 11:23 am

Contepomi won't be a top 10 centre, but definately top 15 i would say and does a great job covering 10 as well.

I can honestly say that EFS won't be anyway near that level and would be regarded as a weakness in a team i reckon. Feel free to ask others, but from my experience, anyone not playing international rugby is not massively rated. I had Britz, best hooker in the prem for 2 years, but no one really liked him on here, so i moved him on, so thats a good example of Prem form counting for nothing.

Can't do anything in the front 5, im short there as it is myself!

So, my deal remains

Contepomi
4
Warburton

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 11:45 am

Dont think EFS has played at all since the WC. He couldn't even get into the starting team at Bath, was very average for the two years I saw him, always made the wrong option, taking the ball into contact and butchering overlaps. He lost his place to Hape and then sulked.

Fair play to him, he has now had one good season at Glos, but one swallow a summer doesn't maketh!

Felipe is a seasoned int and ageing yes, but if Stade think he is good enough to play ten for them and replace Beauxis, then thats high enough praise indeed!

Ps. Players that 'should be rated' on here, aren't always rated, thats probably the only thing thats annoys me about this game! Me and most of the rugby world think Britz is class, but everyone singled him out as a weakness in my team, so i regrettfully let him go!

As far as a 12 goes, I don't think there is better than Contepomi available, Flutey perhaps, but he has been injured for so blinking long and not a certainty for the WC i don't think.

There is no real rush for a deal, but I do want a 7 and I like warburton, hence the move. Im only caretaking this team, so trying to sort out some of the problems i inherited.

ps. the game tomorrow is game 9, so you will be without 4 injured players, so need 22 available.

The injuries page is at the bottom of the main page, but to help you out:

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Sam WarburtonWeek 10
Gonzalo CanaleWeek 11
Brian Mujati Week 12
Shontayne Hape Week 13

So in fact, warburton can't even play tomorrow, but contepomi can and would take Hape/Canales place i guess.

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 12:14 pm

Alright mate welcome back Hug

How are things across the ocean?

Time to get into the real business boxing

Skrela is miles better than Slade,, at FH and you need a decent FH. He was mentionted in 207/ITFL's top ten FH's. I'm eagerly interested in Elsom, but I'm desperate for a BS anyway.

Would be interested in Halfpenny and Hape OK

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 12:36 pm

I'm trying to think of something, would Franks be available too?

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 1:08 pm

Wigglesworth and Wyn-Jones available at the right price/deal

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Post by Driver Tue May 31, 2011 1:18 pm

Banahan + Abendonan for Foden?
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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 1:24 pm

Mujati + POC + Dowson
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Watson + P James + Russouw

Enq Ok!

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 1:25 pm

Fair enough, thanks for the shopping list, reasonable and really helpful! All are attainable except Nallet.

Rocky + Hari are my targets in your team, need to tweak my back row.

How about

Waldrom + Alberts + Strettle
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Rocky + Hari

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Post by Driver Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 pm

I'd deal on that
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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 1:38 pm

Ok fair enough.

I do like Hape, but can't get him involved, as he is injured for so long

Waldrom + Henson
4
Rocky + Myler + 5m

Need a bit of cash, as im losing two international class players and myler isn't close, but i need a back up 10

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 1:39 pm

I didn't know that about Watson - I guess I need to offload him sharpish!

Seriously though, if you want to make an offer for Paul James/Moray Low I'll listen..

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 1:51 pm

What about if i dropped the cash bit? or put in Strettle for Henson?

Waldrom + Strettle
4
Rocky + Myler

Byrne is available, see that you need a FB, now that Foden is gone, how about

Byrne 4 Halfpenny?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 31, 2011 1:59 pm

Thought Mich was his normal Flakey self lol

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Post by prop_lyd Tue May 31, 2011 2:00 pm

Welcome back bud, quick job on Banahan i see Wink
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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:03 pm

Mate, I posted the last seasons completed foreign transfers, as a guide to player valuations. Look for it on the main page, near the bottom, its really useful.

You can see there that Louw went for £20m last year!

Let me know about the Elsom and Byrne bids and feel free to put them in one comment on the Sarries page, will make life easier for us both

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:07 pm

I get your point, but can't stretch to a 3 4 2 if Myler is the other player to Rocky.

Strettle and Stevens both going to the WC, Myler is no way near.

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 2:08 pm

Right okay then. Here we go

Bonnaire + Roberts + Walker + Wilkinson
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Elsom + Hape + Halfpenny + Slade

Enq

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 2:09 pm

Swap Hape for Traille OK

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:10 pm

Im still very interested in Rocky, so don't forget that, even though Fluxy has now bid

Rocky + Barritt
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Alberts + Strettle + 3m

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:25 pm

I would be willing to bet Stevens goes to NZ, Johnson rates him and he has proved his ability to play both sides seamlessly, crucial at a WC!

Five props will go

Sheri + Corbs at LH
Cole at TH
Wilson + Stevens to cover both

I love Belly, but he isn't going to be getting another England cap, lets face it. Don't get me started on Tim Payne, he is awful! One of the worst players in the Prem!

Getting back to the deal, I can't lose Stevens, he starts for me, as my Georgian superstar is injured.

Rocky>Alberts, but Alberts isn't a weakness for me, not by a long way, in fact he got signing of the season on here and has been sensational for the Sharks, whilst Rocky has been largely injured.

I love Rocky, ever since his season for Leinster, butI can't justify losing two proven and in form players in Stevens and Strettle for Barritt, that weakens my team overall

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:35 pm

Well whatever happens, Stevens is a v.good player and plays both sides and starts for me, so i can't lose him! Sorry buddy!

PDJ is an interesting one, doubt he will start at Saints, but they have proved this year that although their XV is great, they need more depth, especially at prop.

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 2:45 pm

I would probably do that deal if my Georgian wasn't injured, so thats pretty annoying to be honest!

We get a £10m bonus tomorrow as its the first day of the month, so maybe some mileage in the deal left! I'll be back for Rocky tomorrow!

That cash will allow me to heal my prop or buy another, which allows me to let Stevens go potentially

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 2:49 pm

I lose too much in what you offered.

Back to mine, I don't exactly want Slade. But it helps each of us out

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 3:32 pm

Halfpenny... GO!

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 3:34 pm

I don't think it was me, I probably prefer Croft - went to the same school and played in the 1st XV with him.

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Post by GloucesterBear Tue May 31, 2011 3:57 pm

Keven Mealamu
Tony Woodcock
Chris Jack
Magnus Lund
Byron Kelleher
Alesana Tuilagi
Zac Guildford
Clement Poitrenaud

That is a heavy load.

Mujati & Elsom & Burgess & Hartley
4
WP Nel & Brown & Kelleher & Mealamu

Does that sound ok, im sorry but going to have to include some players you may not want, but WP Nel has been on form with Oosthuizen and Brown is established and looking at above comments Elsom might be for sale if im correct? Kelleher rated better than Burgess I see, and Mealamu better than Hartley and with Hore aswell that's a major selection headache you will have at hook.
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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 4:00 pm

Thion + Elsom + Twelvetrees
4
Bekker + Alberts + Strettle


I have two losses there, for one gain, so lets level it up.

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Thion + Elsom + Twelvetrees + Hore
4
Bekker + Alberts + Henson + Dixon

Enq for now

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Post by GloucesterBear Tue May 31, 2011 4:07 pm

Too many players some have 4 like the above by bathite haha.

Elsom
4
Brown

Is definitely a part the other is up to you.

Kelleher 4 Burgess as an add on to that take your fancy?
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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 4:13 pm

Could possibly wittle down the deal to

Bekker + Alberts
4
Thion + Elsom

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 4:25 pm

Ok, thats fair enough with the winger cover. But as I said, the deal needs to be even, 2 gains each I think.

So we either level it up with

DEAL A:
Bekker + Alberts + Strettle + Dixon
for
Thion + Elsom + Barritt + Hore

Or

DEAL B:

Bekker+Alberts
4
Thion+Elsom

and then buy another winger with the cash that comes in tomorrow

OR

DEAL C

Bekker + Alberts + Strettle
for
Thion + Elsom + Barritt + 10m (from your monthly bonus tomorrow)

which allows me to get a winger to replace stretts

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 4:33 pm

Just popping out for 20mins, will be back soon, looking forward to hearing your reponse, A B C its as easy as........

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 4:51 pm

yeah sure, how would I be able to make it permanent?

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Post by RowleyFox Tue May 31, 2011 4:53 pm

You lost Foden why have you sold Foden.

That means I can see no deal what so ever.

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 5:17 pm

What kind of deal are you thinking mate?

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 5:17 pm

Right, im back. So let me get this straight. From your message, it seems you proposed this

Elsom + Thion + Strettle + Henson
4
Alberts + Bekker + Barritt + Twelvetrees

If thats right, I reckon I might stretch to it, maybe with a little cash your end to balance it out, say 5m, as Im losing out on 3 players there for Rocky.

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Post by CJB Tue May 31, 2011 5:21 pm

Not really unless you are throwing huge at me. Fly half is key and Cooper is the 2nd best in world. Slade has played 2/3 games there at the top level and is injured, don't know how he can be rated!

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 5:30 pm

Just checked my page and got your message a bit wrong anyways mate, see that you had halfpenny in there. If it he was there, I'll deal on this.

Elsom + Thion + Barritt + Halfpenny
4
Alberts + Bekker + Strettle + Henson

That makes up for the lack of cash i reckon and is a fairer deal. I get your point on Henson, but he covers 4 positions and is a full international, same can't be said for barritt

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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 6:42 pm

Yeah, i see rowley has been chatting. He does tend to be a bit dramatic. To be honest, im gutted to lose bekker, one of the best lineout locks in the business and i don't really like thion, will be looking to improve on him, but there is very little quality left in foreign locks.

Henson is an opinion splitter, but his versatility is crucial in this game, especially with injuries.

Strettle has had a brilliant season, has halfpenny even played that much? Same goes for Alberts/Elsom.

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Post by Fluxy Tue May 31, 2011 6:47 pm

That offer stinks mate!

I lose three starters for one and two backups.

I would be most willing to take Dowson on loan for 2 weeks, for £2m (£1m a week)

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Post by CJB Tue May 31, 2011 6:48 pm

Franks + Alberts 4 Lydiate + Hayman + £8m

Gives you a back row of

6 Lydiate
7 Louw
8 Hari which looks stronger IMO

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Post by RowleyFox Tue May 31, 2011 6:50 pm

^^^^^^

207 im I seeing things that is pretty good Hon, I would snap his hand off for that.


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Post by Bathite Tue May 31, 2011 6:51 pm

Ha, i thought the opposite! Funny how opinion differs!

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Post by pullthestrings Tue May 31, 2011 6:58 pm

POC + Burgess
=
Genia + Russouw

Get the SA engine room 8)

Enq for now..

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