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Re: Week Five
by Marky Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:07 pm
Bayern Munich v Atletico Madrid
Dortmund v Real Madrid
Juventus v PSG
Man Citeh v Porto
- BAYERN MUNICH:
--------------------Neuer
Lahm --- Benatia -- Koscielny --- Bernat
-----Alonso -----Schweinstiger
Robben ----------Ozil ------Reus
----------------Costa
Bench: Casillas,Bellerin,Fonte,Willian,Fekir,Dybala & Oliver Torres
Team Talk: Up against Nadeem who's made a poor start so shall be looking for a strong showing to get back on track. They have a strong midfield so shall look to exploit the wings.
Defensive Tactics
- Benatia to pick up Giroud and push him away from goal and get tight to him so never gets a chance to settle on the ball.
- Koscielny to pick up a 2nd striker if is one otherwise look to clear up anything wide your pace that gets in behind and watch for AM's coming through
- Lahm & Bernat look to force their wingers inside towards the midfield to stop them getting balls in the box, If get down the line then block the crosses
- Alonso to sit infront of defense and look to cut supply into Giroud From Ramsey/Pjanic
- Schweinstiger to move about and look to get into their faces put tackles in and rough them up
- Ozil to sit on their deep laying playmaker and stop him dictating play
- Wingers to track back and double up with full backs
Attacking Tactics
- Lahm & Bernat to get up the pitch and support the wingers, Robben/Reus will cut in so Lahm/Bernat to go outside and whip balls in for Diego
- Alonso to sit and spray balls out wide & into Ozil, If they try man mark you then drift forwards and Schweinstiger will go deep.
- Schweinstiger to drift about midfield and look to link the play up and look for balls in behind the defense, If Alonso is being man marked take on the deep playmaker role
- Robben & Reus look to run at the full backs and get yourself in behind, Use your pace and trickery to get at the full backs. If being marked out the game then switch wings
- Ozil to drift about and try get De Rossi's following to pull him out of position, Look to get the ball and shoot from range or play balls in behind the defense
- Costa to back into the smaller defender whichever is playing and look to bully them physical and give them a battle, Look to get the run on them when crosses get in the box and make diagonal runs in behind the defense.
Subs: Dybala for Ozil if losing go 4-4-2
- ATLETICO MADRID:
It is time boys. Time to show your worth. Time to show your loyalty to the club that pays your wages. Time to show nando who the real king of kings is. He will be without 2 of his main players in Hummels and Cazorla so I will look to use the pace of Ibarbo against either Benatia or Dante, 2 centre backs not blessed with pace. Let's show the Bayern Beastiality Munchers how it's done!
---------------------------------------------------Oblak---------------------------------------------------
Juanfran ----------------- Toprak ----------------- Alderweireld --------------------- Alba
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ De Rossi -----------------------------------------
------------------------- Ramsey ----------- Xavi --------------------- Pjanic ------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------- Ibarbo --------------- Giroud --------------------------------------------
Subs - Mathieu, Rafinha, Arteta, Mario Suarez, Jese, Torres, Totti
Captain DE ROSSI
CK'S PJANIC LEFT. RAMSEY RIGHT
FK PJANIC
PK GIROUD
DEFENCE
Oblak will look to command his area. His height will help him deal with aerial balls and will use his good reflexes to save any shots. Toprak and Alderweireld will be up against Costa. Don't let him manhandle you and stick close to him. De Rossi will be marking Ozil to stop the supply coming in. Full backs will look to start of with a neutral mindset and make syre they are not caught out of podition early on. As the match goes on, Alba and Juanfran are to help out in attack aswell by making overlapping runs and supporting my midfielders. Get in crosses if you can aswell. Alba you will be up ahainst Robben, the injury prone 1 footed pony. Always show him on his right foot as 9 times out of 10 he will look to cut in but you have the pace to deal with him. The midfield 4 that I have chosen are good at helping out in defence so they will help our defenders on dealing with the Bayern wingers and attack mid. Reus on the left wing will probably try cutting in from the right so try and stop him from doing that Juanfran.
MIDFIELD
De Rossi will be the defense mid, he will look to put in tackles and hound the Bayern AM, probably Ozil. Don't stray out of position and use your brilliant interception ability to steal the ball and launch a counter attack. Ramsey and Pjanic will be the box to box midfielders. They will look to pass the ball forward and make attacking forays through the middle. Keep things simple, shoot if you see a chance. Xavi will be the deep lying playmaker. He will look to split the opposition defence from deep with his excellent vision. Dont stray too far forward but keep things simple withvyour superor ball control and 1 touch play. They will also help out in defence by tracking back when we don't have possession of the ball. Bayern will probably play Alonso and Schweinstiger in the centre of midfield which we will try to exploit their lack of mobility by closing them down as quickly as possible. They are not known for their pace and the energy of Ramsey and Pjanic can cause them trouble.
STRIKE
Up front will be the frenchie Giroud. He will be the target man and will look to use his height and physical presence to his advantage. Link the play, pass the ball to the wingers and use your excellent positional play in the 6 yard box to score. He will be partnered by the pacy string tank Victor Ibarbo. He will try and exploit Benatia's main weakness, his lack of pace. Time your runs and finish any chance you see.
Subs if LOSING BY 65MINS
Put on Torres for De Rossi and Pjanic moves to AM. Change formation to 4 1 2 1 2 with Torres partnering Giroud up front. Put on Jese for Xavi with Ibarbo and Jese to play on the wings. Totti for Ramsey. ALL ATTACK!
Subs if WINNING BY 65MINS
Take of Pjanic and put on Mario Suarez play deep defensive hoofball. EVERYONE WILL DEFEND.
Subs if DRAWING BY 65MINS
Torres for Giroud, Suarez for Pjanic and Jese for Ibarbo. Keep same formation.
- CHELSEA:
--------------------------------Courtois ---------------------------
---------Darmian---- ---Ramos---------Terry---------Azpilicueta-----
------------------------------Schneiderlin-------------- ---------
---------- ----------Koke------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------Fabregas-------------------
---------Muller---------------------- -----------------Sanchez------------
------------------------------Lewandowski --------------------------------
Subs – Blackman, Cahill, Mikel, Loftus Cheek, Bolasie, Ibe, Drogba
After last week’s thrashing we’ve had a quality week of training and have brought in a world class centre back to lift morale. Our gameplan is going to be attacking the wide areas, specifically the space left in behind by Alves and the other full back when they go forward.
Defensive tactics
Mandzukic is injured so they will likely play Welbeck up front. Terry/Ramos to look to get tight to him and pressure him physically, targeting his first touch, with the other to look to sweep in behind and cover the spin. We don’t expect them to use aerial crosses given the quality of our centre backs in the air.
Full backs to look out for runs from outside to in, and the midfield, Muller and Sanchez are tasked with keeping an eye on overlaps from the full backs, and look to block the low cross.
Schneiderlin to sit the deepest of our midfield, and pick up the forward runs of either Marchisio or Modric. Cesc/Koke to rotate as the furthest forward midfielder to keep them off guard, and also help Schneiderlin.
Attacking tactics
Gameplan built around attacking with width, and using the full backs to double up out wide with their narrow three in midfield. Sanchez and Muller can switch sides to offer different threats, with Darmian especially looking to get forward in support of his winger.
Lewandowski to use his movement to get on the end of balls into the box, bully the centre backs with your physicality if you get the chance.
Cesc and Koke to run the game with their passing, look for the ball out to the full back if the wingers cut in, or look for the wingers inside runs. Make forward runs to get on to the end of cutbacks if the ball gets to the byline.
Cesc is slightly further forward on the left to help Sanchez attack Alves, as we want Azpilicueta to focus on his defensive role
Subs
Bolasie on for Schneiderlin if losing at 65 mins, 4-2-3-1 with Koke and Cesc deepest
If winning, Mikel on for Koke and sit deepest with Schneiderlin
- ARSENAL:
Injuries: Kieran Gibbs, Damian Martinez, Mathieu Flamini and Mario Mandzukic.
4-3-3 formation:
------------Szcezny-------------
Alves---Ogbonna---Varane---Ansaldi
------------------Khedira----------------------
---------Modric----------Marchisio--------
Turan----------Welbeck------------Gotze
Overall Team Talk:
Today we are up against a strong Chelsea side, however they won’t be as strong as they usually are with a key figure missing in Matic in central midfield. We want to exploit that today by just simply playing our normal game by having a lot of possession and passing the ball quickly with plenty of movement. We want to dominate the midfield area by having as much possession as possible and turning that possession into chances.
Defensive Instructions:
Today we need to be alert, watching out for the likes of Sanchez and Lewandowski who are certainly players who can hurt us to name a couple. We want to keep a solid back line but Varane I want you to stick with Lewandowski, not allowing him time on the ball to turn and I want you to win the aerial battles as well. Ogbonna you will be the man looking to track the runners through the centre. Ansaldi and Alves you will both be watching the runners in the wide areas and keeping organised at the back, remember when you go forward you need to come back and put in the defensive work. Khedira you are going to be the main man looking to boss the midfield area, especially with Matic being injured this week. I want you to squeeze the space in the centre and filter out any attacks coming through.
Attacking Instructions:
Attacking wise we want to be in control this week, we want to possess the ball as much as possible, not allowing the likes of Fabregas to get on the ball. I want you to move the ball quickly and look to use the pace up front of Welbeck due to Mandzukic being out we will be looking to play diagonal through balls in from the wings and also looking to move the ball quickly through the centre. Modric you will be pulling the strings and looking to bring the ball on and working the ball into good positions. Gotze and Turan you will both be looking to get on the ball and get at the back 4, cut inside or look to play Welbeck in. Welbeck I want you to be making plenty of movement in the final third, looking to get on the end of incoming passes from the players behind you. Marchisio you will be supporting the attacks as well however you will be required to get back and support in defensive situations, I want you to play as you do with high energy throughout.
Subs:
Herrera on for Marchisio (80th Minute)
Tiago on for Modric (90th Minute)
Dortmund v Real Madrid
- DORTMUND:
Dortmund vs RealWeidenfeller
Piszczek Subotic Zouma Schmelzer
Thiago Verratti Motta
Oxo Tevez Remy
Subs
Langerak
Ginter
Durm
Bender
Kagawa
Blaszczykowski
Immobile
Injuries
Kirch
Kampl
Jojic
Pepe
General: Kroos and Aguero missing means Madrid will make
some big changes. Without Kroos they’re missing the midfield dictator and with
Verratti and Thiago I feel I can control the possession. Aguero out I reckon
Ronaldo will play up front. They have
devastating pace so we’ll play a deep line and hit them on the counter. Look
for spaces Marcelo leaves behind to attack.
DEFENSIVE TACTICS
I want to play a 4 man defence that plays deep, Subotic
to pick up Ronaldo if he plays centrally and Zouma to pick up spare man. Their wingers
like to come inside so try and show them the outside blocking crosses. Motta to
screen the back four filling in any space which we must deny Ronaldo &
Verratti and Thiago to help him by picking up their men and jockeying them.
ATTACKING TACTICS
Only one of our FB to push up at a time give width and get crosses into the
box. Verratti & Thiago look to keep possession and to find space to play
the ball (In behind their FB) to our wingers and join in with our counters. Oxo
and Remy to play narrow coming inside and overloading the Madrid defenders.
Tevez always move around dropping deep or playing high up. Look for any chance
you got and do not let their defenders settle on the ball forcing them to play
long.
SUB 65 MIN
Oxo off Blaszczykowski on (Fresh legs same formation)
SUB 75 MIN IF WINNING
Thiago off Bender on (More defensive minded player)
SUB 75 MIN IF LOSING
Motta off Immobile on (4-2-3-1) Tevez playing in the hole
more attacking players
Blaszczykowski Tevez Remy
Immobile
- REAL MADRID:
REAL MADRID v Dortmund
Injuries: Sergio Aguero, Cristian Tello, Abner, Toni KroosMorgan De SanctisSubs: Helton, Mathieu Debuchy, Fabio Coentrao, Javi Martinez, Stevan Jovetic
Branislav Ivanovic - Jerome Boateng - Giorgio Chiellini - Marcelo
Javier Mascherano
Ramires -- Andres Iniesta
Theo Walcott ------------------------ Eden Hazard
Cristiano Ronaldo
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Tough but winnable game against Dortmund, they have some world class players in their side, however we have some world class players of our own to hurt them and cause them real problems. Our front four with assistance from the fullbacks should create plenty of chances, and in midfield we have a trio who can dictate the game in Mascherano, Ramires and Iniesta. Ronaldo plays upfront with Hazard LW and Walcott RW, with the pace and trickery to badly hurt the Dortmund defence.
De Sanctis - Distribute from the back to the fullbacks/CM's, stay in communication with your defence throughout, be wary of long range efforts and ensure you stay big for any one on ones. On occasion go long for Ronaldo.
Boateng/Chiellini - Chiellini to mark their striker, force him high up the pitch thus limiting his impact close to goal, and Boateng to be the spare man, be first to the second ball and their second striker/AM making runs from midfield. If they play two strikers Boateng marks him and Mascherano drops deeper. When in possession bring the ball out of defence and use the midfielders ahead of you to help us play out from the back. Both of you go forward for setpieces.
Ivanovic/Marcelo - Both of you to force the Dortmund wingers out wide, do not allow them to come inside as this will cause more problems for our midfield. They will want to cut inside so force them outside and block their crosses at source. They will try to create problems infield so its vital you only show them down the wing. When we have possession, push forward and support Walcott/Hazard as they will try to run inside the fullback and you will provide the overlap to either create space or supply crosses into the area for Ronaldo and link with Iniesta. You will need to track back very quickly to ensure we don't get caught on the break.
Mascherano - Mascherano to patrol infront of the back four, if Dortmund play an AM stay on him, but don't follow if he drifts wide. Be first to any loose balls and in possession look for the attackers and pass rather than bring the ball out. If they play 2 strikers drop back to help Boateng and Chiellini.
Ramires/Iniesta - Ramires the box to box man, assist Mascherano and the CB's in dealing with the Dortmund attack when we don't have the ball, but in possession get forward, use your physical presence and incredible energy to our advantage, link with Iniesta/Walcott/Hazard and look to create chances for Ronaldo. Remain composed throughout. Iniesta the playmaker, without the ball drop alongside Ramires and Mascherano but in possession bring the ball out and look to create chances for the front three. Without the ball Ramires helps Ivanovic and Iniesta helps Marcelo to prevent 2 on 1's.
Walcott/Hazard - Both playing out wide and both have the pace and trickery to beat the Dortmund fullbacks and get crosses in, but both of you will also have our fullback overlapping giving you the chance to cut inside and get shots in. Look to supply Ronaldo with chances and also provide yourselves with chances. Link up with Iniesta, and capitalise on the space Ronaldo's presence will create for you. Without the ball I want you to drop alongside the midfield three to be solid then burst forward on the break.
Ronaldo - you will be expected to occupy the Dortmund centrebacks, hold up possession and look to turn the defender and shoot. Be strong in the air and look for your teammates trying to pick you out from deep. Shoot on sight. Stay on the last defender's shoulder for any passes in behind.
-----------------
Subs 70 mins:
If winning: Ramires off, Martinez on. Martinez playing deeper alongside Mascherano and Iniesta in a 4-5-1, with Walcott and Hazard playing deeper at RM and LM. Absorb pressure and look to hit on the counter.
If drawing: No changes, Iniesta into a more advanced AM role, switch to 4-2-3-1 and push for the winner without overcommitting.
If losing: Boateng off, Jovetic on. Change to a 3-1-4-2, back three of Ivanovic - Mascherano - Chiellini, Iniesta the playmaker from deep, AM four of Walcott - Ramires - Hazard - Marcelo with Ronaldo - Jovetic upfront. Push for goals, we must not lose this game.
Juventus v PSG
- JUVENTUS:
Juve v PSG
Formation
Buffon
Clyne—Barzagli—Bonucci—Evra
—Pirlo—
Vidal—Isco
Aubameyang—Neymar—Depay
Team Talk
Up against PSG this week and whilst they’ve not picked up as many points as they’d like, they’re still an excellent team so we need to be on top of our game in order to collect the three points. We’re expecting them to be prepared for our fast paced attack by dropping the defensive line back, if thats the case then our attacking trio are to pick up the ball earlier and look to interchange position running at the defence, if you’re being marked then look to drag your marker with you and then another team member can then enter that space. This is key for us today, neat intelligent movements designed to create gaps through which we can exploit. If they’re going for it and playing a high line then we’ll look to draw them deeper into our half and go long ball utilising the speed of our forwards to hit them on the break, beat the offside and punish. The longer the game goes on and the further they have to push up the field the more we can break.
Defence
A back four with Bonucci given the role of picking up the main striker as they enter threatening positions, be aware of their movement but ensure you don't get dragged out of position. Barzagli to assist where required but to pick up threats from their wingers/AM etc if they break into the danger zone. Fullbacks to shepherd their wingers on the outside, no rash challenges and going to ground, slow their attacks down and block crosses. Only look to come forward when the opposition have over stretched and there’s a possibility to outnumber them on the counter. Don’t be afraid to hit a long ball for our three musketeers to run on to.
Pirlo main defensive of midfield trio, look to stay back when our FBs go forward. Vidal to be the warrior in the middle of the pitch, get at the opposition and niggle their CMs, ensure they doesn’t get into their stride early on. If it means a cynical foul on the half way line so be it, better than one near the box. When they have possession then squash up the play, it limits their creative options, don’t give them room to dictate the play.
Attack
Pirlo playing deep & given the playmaker role, be the outlet for our counters and look for the movement of our attacking options with balls into space. Isco to link up play as the highest positioned central midfielder, stretch their defence out to you. All three attackers to alternate roles, all of you are comfortable across the front with similar attributes but with Depay and Aubamyang swapping it allows options of coming inside or beating the man on the flank. Whenever one winger has the ball then the other is to get to the edge of the box, look immediately for the loose ball or for it to be dragged back. None of you to be afraid to take on the defenders, once you’ve got the beating of them then they’ll crumble. Crosses to be whipped in early across the ground rather in-swingers.
Subs
Lichtsteiner, Pereyra, Mertesacker, Asamoah, Hernandez, Caceres, Cambiasso
If winning at 70m: Cambiasso for Pirlo, like for like but to give Pirlo a well deserved rest.
If losing/drawing at 65m: Mertesacker for Barzagli, use the German giant as a target for set pieces
If losing/drawing at 75m: Asamoah for Depay, fresh legs against tiring fullback
- PSG:
Juventus Vs PSG
Injuries: Pedro, Zoumana Camara, Maxwell, Serge Aurier
Formation: 4-4-2 | Starting XI
GK: Salvatore Sirigu
RB: Daryl Janmaat
CB: Thiago Silva
CB: Marquinhos
LB: Lucas Digne
RM: Lucus
CM: Blaise Matuidi
CM: Sergio Busquets
LM: Ezequiel Lavezzi
FW: Edinson Cavani
FW: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
SUBS: (GK) Júlio César, Yohan Cabaye, Sokratis Papastathopoulos, Ilkay Gundogan, Michael Carrick, Jean-Christophe Bahebeck
GAME PLAN: Prove 4-4-2 isn't dead! With another tough fixture in Juventus, they are have a lot of quality going forward. This week we'll be switching to the classic 4-4-2 shape where the plan is to hold a shape of two banks of four where we will press the space and look to frustrate and stifle Juventus into playing backwards when in possession. From the forwards to the back-line, the mission is to implement a man-marking system throughout the side. In Hero they have a master in manipulation, let's prove that the underdogs are capable of picking up points against the bigger sides in this league.
DEFENSIVE TACTICS: Holding a deeper line from the last third, Thiago Silva will once again marshal the back-line to nullify the pace and limit the runners getting in behind. The entire back-line with implement tight-marking and will always look to stay on feet in challenges. Regardless of what combination of forwards, Silva will play the limited defender who will be more than a match in terms of strength where Marquinhos (Who can match their pace) will pick up the deeper striker / advanced forward. Both limited Full-Backs will man-mark the wider players who will look to hold-up play and look to push inside to our CM's. Both CM's will act as enforcers who wil protect the back-line. With Juventus likely to play 3 CM's, I'd like to see both of you pick up the two most advanced players and show your physicality to win every challenge and second ball to break up the play. On the attack, look to keep things simple.
ATTACKING TACTICS: Defensively, Cavani will look to close the defensive midfielder down who will most likely to be Pirlo. Both Wingers will also look to hold a disciplined shape by doubling up with both FB's from the half-way line then push also to close down any advancing Full Back. If Juventus look to play 4-3-3, both of their FB's will be exposed so we will look to hit Juventus with wing play and flood the box with fast deliveries. From crosses, I'd like to see Ibrahimovic peel of his markers onto the back-post and expose the lack of height that both FB's lack, particularly any of Clyne, Lichtsteiner or Evra! Cavani will look to make a nuisance of himself by looking to pick up any knock-downs or ricochet's from the crosses by getting between the 'Keeper and marker at the front post.
ON 75 MINS: Michael Carrick will replace Blaise Matuidi. Fresh pair of legs in midfield where Carrick will always look to move the ball forward.
ON 80 MINS: Papastathopoulos will replace Daryl Janmaat. Again fresh pair of legs to help dispose the threat from the left-side.
ON 85 MINS: Jean-Christophe Bahebeck will replace Edinson Cavani. Look to plug the gap stopping the defensive midfielder from playing.
Man Citeh v Porto
- MAN CITY:
Starting XI
--------------------------- Hart -----------------------------
Zabaleta ------- de Vrij ------- Mangala ------- de Sciglio
--------------- Kondogbia ------- Toure -------------------
Silva ---------- Martinez -------- Bony -------------- Bale
Subs: Caballero, Sagna, Clichy, Oscar, Nasri, Fernando
Injuries: Jamie Vardy, Vincent Kompany, Dedryck Boyata, Richard Wright
Pre-match
Porto are a good side and we will need to be at our best to ensure victory. They are beatable however and I expect that this new formation will encourage us to play to our potential and come away with the 3 points. It will be a free-flowing formation where the front four all have the capacity to drop deep, double up on defenders, stay out wide, overlap or cut inside – Kondogbia and Toure will hold the midfield area and allow the full backs to join the attack. With the wings crowded with our attacking forces, and the midfield closed up, Porto will have nowhere to go but backwards.
Attacking
1. Bale and Silva to attack from the flanks; I want you to get on the ball, beat your man either inside or down the line (keep him guessing), then either put crosses into the box for Bony and Martinez or get a shot on goal. Swap flanks for short spells too, allowing Bale to cut inside on his left and wreak havoc.
2. Bony and Martinez to use pace and power to overcome whichever CB is lined up against them – none of the CB options can match you for speed or physicality. Back into your man, tug his shirt, move him about with your runs and above all, ensure you’re in a good position for crosses into the box. Drop deep to confuse your man, pull out wide, move around to free up space for one of your teammates.
3. Toure and Kondogbia to keep the midfield compact and the ball moving. We will attack from the flanks and so the ball should only be in the middle to switch play to the opposite flank or to create a counter attack.
4. Zabaleta and de Sciglio to provide the overlap constantly – pin the opposition wingers back and ensure you force mistakes from your opposite numbers in tandem with Bale and Silva.
Defending
1. Two man CB team today, Mangala to man-mark the main CF; stick tight to him, kick him, pull his shirt, make sure he knows he's in a battle and put him off his game. Never let him get goal side. De Vrij to marshal the back line and watch for Porto’s wingers getting in behind the FB – if they do, I want you there to deal with it.
2. Kondogbia and Toure to stamp their authority early and often in the midfield battle. If you keep Porto’s midfield stifled they will be stuck for creativity – it’s up to you to keep hustling and snapping at their heels.
3. Zabaleta and de Sciglio to keep your wingers on the outside, do not let them drift into space at any time and make sure if they do cut inside, that either Bale or Silva are there to backfill your spot while you shepherd them inside for us to win the ball back.
Sub: 70mins – Toure off, Oscar on – same as before, use Oscar’s fresh legs in the middle to keep the pressure on.
80mins – Nasri on, Bony off – Nasri to operate deeper, pick the ball up and create chances for Martinez and Bale.
- PORTO:
EL PORTO vs Man Citeh
Injuries:
Ricardo Quaresma
Hernani
Adrian
Diego Reyes
Formation: 3-3-2-2
Starting XI:
GK - Pepe Reina
RCB - Maicon
CB - Holger Badstuber
LCB - Bruno Martins Indi
RCM - Casemiro
CM - Jordy Clasie
LCM - Fernandinho
RW - Yacine Brahimi
LW - Franck Ribery
ST - Alvaro Morata
ST - Luca Toni
Subs
Frank Lampard
Vincent Aboubakar
Francis Coquelin
Alexsandr Kolarov
Alex Sandro
Keylor Navas
Nemanja Vidic
--------------------------------Reina----------------------------------
-----------------Maicon----Badstuber---Martins Indi------------------
-----------------Casemiro---Clasie---Fernandinho-------------------
Brahimi--------------------------------------------------------Ribery
-----------------------Morata---------Toni----------------------------
Tactic: A rather harsh loss last week fellas, but we went down playing the style we wish too. Without wishing to sound too Liverpool 2014/15, but "we go again" this week against a Man Citeh side that is very shaky in defence, and leaks goals. With Kompany missing we feel we can dominate their defenders, but I also want to retain control of the midfield. To do this we have sacrificed some defensive solidity to press high, and win the ball back whilst having exceptional talent in the wide areas and finishers to occupy their defenders. Martins Indi/Maicon/Badstuber - you guys have a big job today, Maicon/Martins Indi if the ball goes wide on your side you close down and everyone shifts across. In attack lets look to get Clasie on the ball as often as possible, but if they have him covered lets go upto Toni who can lay off to the onrunning Ribey/Brahimi or Fernandinho. Our goal today is to outscore them, it'll need to be a titanic tussle and battle of wits but we know we have what it takes and the firepower in the side to get a result. Be strong, believe in yourselves and our style and you will get a result today fellas.
Subs: If winning/drawing - 65 mins - Kolarov for Toni, Alex Sandro for Ribery - go 5-3-1-1 with Brahimi AM -Kolarov LB and Alex Sandro RB (unnatural but you are only being asked to defend.) Lets shut up shop.
If losing - 65 mins - Lampard for Casemiro, Aboubakar for Toni. Change of personel to win the game.
Pump up song: - "Never gonna give you up" Rick Astley
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Re: Week Five
by Trebs Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:41 pm
Bayern Munich vs Athletico Madrid
The Bayern team is hard to criticise, in Robben and Reus they have top class wingers. Athletico did their best to deal with the threat and I can see their full backs matching them for pace but the wingers will win at least once or twice and arguably that is enough. I'd prefer Schweinsteiger joining Alonso in protecting the defense rather than trying to rough them up, and Hummels would obviously improver their defense. As for Athletico, Toprak and Alderweireld are decent defenders but would struggle against Costa I fear, I also think Xavi is over the hill. I can see them making it difficult for Bayern to play, and Ibarbo could have some joy against Benatia (although he isn't the slowest CB in the world).
On balance, Bayern just about edge it, probably from a moment of class from one of the wingers.
Bayern Munich 1-0 Athletico Madrid
Reus (83)
MOTM: Pjanic
Chelsea vs Arsenal
Chelsea correctly predicted Welbeck to play upfront, and told Terry and Ramos to both get tight to him which I thought was an interesting tactic, given his electric pace. I also think Koke is more left sided so should be swapped over with Fabregas, just a minor point. Overall, I prefer the Arsenal CM trio to the Chelsea trio, but Muller and Sanchez are both classy players who would create and have moments of brilliance, I particularly think that the Arsenal defense is a bit average and would struggle to keep out the front three for the 90. Cahill apart, the Chelsea bench looks like it needs improving.
It's a difficult game as both teams have aspects I like and think one would get the advantage. On that basis, I have to give a draw.
Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal
Muller (42); Marchisio (55)
MOTM: Alexis Sanchez
Dortmund vs Real Madrid
I think Dortmund have probably set up about as well as they could have done against Real Madrid, looking to defend and counter. I can see the three in the Dortmund midfield making if very difficult for them to play. Real Madrid have obviously missed Aguero and Kroos, I don't really see Mascherano as a DM and obviously Ronaldo is better when allowed to roam a bit more as a winger, but is obviously a capable top drawer striker who will beat Subotic a couple of times.
Real Madrid have the better side, there's no question. But, I cannot see what more Dortmund could have done tactically and I can see them being a threat on the counter so get a well deserved draw.
Dortmund 2-2 Real Madrid
Tevez (16, 70); Ronaldo (27), Boateng (50)
Juventus vs PSG
Thiago Silva is probably the best centre back in the world, but the rest of the defense is average for me. PSG and Juventus have both gone for the deeper defensive line and that hurts Juventus more who have the pace and want to get in behind wheras I can see Cavani and Ibrahimovic doing more to get through. Busquets and Matuidi being put up against the Juventus midfield was a brave call, but they are capable, and getting the full backs and wingers forward to create 2 on 1 also helped against Evra and Clyne.
A well deserved win for PSG, while Juventus were good tactically I just feel that PSG were better and predicted more of what Juventus would do and countered it. An excellent win against a good Juventus side.
Juventus 1-3 PSG
Neymar (12); Cavani (33, 82); Ibrahimovic (45+3)
Man City vs Porto
Kompany is a big loss at the back for Man City, de Vrij is not the man to be marshalling a defense, and Mangala I don't like personally. I also think Silva is misused by City especially when he was told to attack from the flanks, whereas I prefer him given freedom to roam in the final third. I can see Porto stopping everything through the middle which forces City to look out wide, to their two best players in Bale and Silva and it is suicidal not to play full backs against those two. Kolarov and Alex Sandro playing in place of Brahimi and Toni, parking the bus and hitting them on the counter (Ribery roaming behind Morata) and I'd have given Porto the win.
Porto make it difficult for City and it seems all will work, but you can't tell a RCB/LCB to come across. It must be recognised where City's strengths are and it isn't. Morata would get a sneaky goal but City win.
Man City 2-1 Porto
Bale (22), Martinez (49); Morata (3)
The Bayern team is hard to criticise, in Robben and Reus they have top class wingers. Athletico did their best to deal with the threat and I can see their full backs matching them for pace but the wingers will win at least once or twice and arguably that is enough. I'd prefer Schweinsteiger joining Alonso in protecting the defense rather than trying to rough them up, and Hummels would obviously improver their defense. As for Athletico, Toprak and Alderweireld are decent defenders but would struggle against Costa I fear, I also think Xavi is over the hill. I can see them making it difficult for Bayern to play, and Ibarbo could have some joy against Benatia (although he isn't the slowest CB in the world).
On balance, Bayern just about edge it, probably from a moment of class from one of the wingers.
Bayern Munich 1-0 Athletico Madrid
Reus (83)
MOTM: Pjanic
Chelsea vs Arsenal
Chelsea correctly predicted Welbeck to play upfront, and told Terry and Ramos to both get tight to him which I thought was an interesting tactic, given his electric pace. I also think Koke is more left sided so should be swapped over with Fabregas, just a minor point. Overall, I prefer the Arsenal CM trio to the Chelsea trio, but Muller and Sanchez are both classy players who would create and have moments of brilliance, I particularly think that the Arsenal defense is a bit average and would struggle to keep out the front three for the 90. Cahill apart, the Chelsea bench looks like it needs improving.
It's a difficult game as both teams have aspects I like and think one would get the advantage. On that basis, I have to give a draw.
Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal
Muller (42); Marchisio (55)
MOTM: Alexis Sanchez
Dortmund vs Real Madrid
I think Dortmund have probably set up about as well as they could have done against Real Madrid, looking to defend and counter. I can see the three in the Dortmund midfield making if very difficult for them to play. Real Madrid have obviously missed Aguero and Kroos, I don't really see Mascherano as a DM and obviously Ronaldo is better when allowed to roam a bit more as a winger, but is obviously a capable top drawer striker who will beat Subotic a couple of times.
Real Madrid have the better side, there's no question. But, I cannot see what more Dortmund could have done tactically and I can see them being a threat on the counter so get a well deserved draw.
Dortmund 2-2 Real Madrid
Tevez (16, 70); Ronaldo (27), Boateng (50)
Juventus vs PSG
Thiago Silva is probably the best centre back in the world, but the rest of the defense is average for me. PSG and Juventus have both gone for the deeper defensive line and that hurts Juventus more who have the pace and want to get in behind wheras I can see Cavani and Ibrahimovic doing more to get through. Busquets and Matuidi being put up against the Juventus midfield was a brave call, but they are capable, and getting the full backs and wingers forward to create 2 on 1 also helped against Evra and Clyne.
A well deserved win for PSG, while Juventus were good tactically I just feel that PSG were better and predicted more of what Juventus would do and countered it. An excellent win against a good Juventus side.
Juventus 1-3 PSG
Neymar (12); Cavani (33, 82); Ibrahimovic (45+3)
Man City vs Porto
Kompany is a big loss at the back for Man City, de Vrij is not the man to be marshalling a defense, and Mangala I don't like personally. I also think Silva is misused by City especially when he was told to attack from the flanks, whereas I prefer him given freedom to roam in the final third. I can see Porto stopping everything through the middle which forces City to look out wide, to their two best players in Bale and Silva and it is suicidal not to play full backs against those two. Kolarov and Alex Sandro playing in place of Brahimi and Toni, parking the bus and hitting them on the counter (Ribery roaming behind Morata) and I'd have given Porto the win.
Porto make it difficult for City and it seems all will work, but you can't tell a RCB/LCB to come across. It must be recognised where City's strengths are and it isn't. Morata would get a sneaky goal but City win.
Man City 2-1 Porto
Bale (22), Martinez (49); Morata (3)
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:47 pm
Called it Hero. You owe me £5.
Trebs couldn't give his BFF Viva a loss even against Ronaldo, Iniesta and Hazard. Even when I played Mascherano (the DM for Argentina and everywhere else he's played except for Barca) ahead of a back four like I did.
Not crying foul play, just my opinion that it should have been a near walkover despite missing Aguero and Kroos.
Trebs couldn't give his BFF Viva a loss even against Ronaldo, Iniesta and Hazard. Even when I played Mascherano (the DM for Argentina and everywhere else he's played except for Barca) ahead of a back four like I did.
Not crying foul play, just my opinion that it should have been a near walkover despite missing Aguero and Kroos.
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:49 pm
Also don't think you can criticise the JA results givers when you do that.
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Re: Week Five
by Afro Wed 24 Jun 2015, 2:15 pm
In Treb's defence, I don't think it looks anywhere near a walkover for Real.
I would have probably gone for a Real win, but only just, and can understand the draw.
I would have probably gone for a Real win, but only just, and can understand the draw.
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Re: Week Five
by FIFA Diva Wed 24 Jun 2015, 2:48 pm
Tough but winnable game against Dortmund, they have some world class players in their side,
Then you say it should have been a walkover.
You should show more respect to my Dortmund side, despite you writing 5 trillion words and smashing the word count limit you couldn't pull out the win. Sometimes you've got to put your hands up and say the better manager won.
Then you say it should have been a walkover.
You should show more respect to my Dortmund side, despite you writing 5 trillion words and smashing the word count limit you couldn't pull out the win. Sometimes you've got to put your hands up and say the better manager won.
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Re: Week Five
by Trebs Wed 24 Jun 2015, 2:49 pm
I knew this would happen. I was scared to give a draw but i genuinely feel that's the right result. I took the courageous decision to do what i felt was right.
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Re: Week Five
by Trebs Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:13 pm
Slot splits
Bayern 7, draw 5, athletico 3
Chelsea 5, draw 8, arsenal 5
Dortmund 3, draw 8, real madrid 7
Juventus 3, draw 3, psg 7
Man city 8, draw 3, porto 2
Bayern 7, draw 5, athletico 3
Chelsea 5, draw 8, arsenal 5
Dortmund 3, draw 8, real madrid 7
Juventus 3, draw 3, psg 7
Man city 8, draw 3, porto 2
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Re: Week Five
by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:26 pm
If that's the way you did it i will declare them null & void. We are JA606 or the retarded league we do this fairly and unbiasedly 
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:33 pm
Trebs I can see where you're coming from, don't sweat it. You vote how you feel, as we all do.
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Re: Week Five
by Hero Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:40 pm
Tactically I think Enigma's been very unlucky so far this season, justified win over me (though 3 perhaps harsh!)
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Re: Week Five
by Trebs Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:59 pm
Results
In this league we have one spin of the Fruity http://classtools.net/education-games-php/fruit_machine
Slot split:
There are 10 win slots per match to be split between the 2 sides however the result doer sees fit.
There are no limit to draw slots but common sense has to be applied
In addition to the win slots the home team has an extra slot added to their tally for home advantage so there should be 11 possible winning slots.
When results are published the slot split should also be released for the benefit of feedback'
Dems da rulez
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Re: Week Five
by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:12 pm
Trebs wrote:Why not? Its an excellent system.
Because we are not a league for retarded like that one on the other side of the fence, so do them properly or i will fire your ass for incompetence
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:20 pm
Not a league for the retarded, yet we all let CF sign up again.
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Re: Week Five
by Afro Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:24 pm
I prefer to think of that as kind rather than retarded.
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Re: Week Five
by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:24 pm
Bullsh*t.
I said no id prefer if Afro stayed on, But you guys said CF deserves a chance etc so
I said no id prefer if Afro stayed on, But you guys said CF deserves a chance etc so
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Re: Week Five
by Trebs Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:25 pm
Just fot clarity i did the results properly.
The slot splits are probably what i would have given if i was forced to abide by that joke of a system.
The slot splits are probably what i would have given if i was forced to abide by that joke of a system.
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Re: Week Five
by Afro Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:27 pm
Tbf I was keen to hand my team over so me staying on wasn't really an option. It was a choice of CF or no manager.
Just happens, with hindsight (or not), no manager was the better choice
Just happens, with hindsight (or not), no manager was the better choice
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 4:37 pm
We are clearly retarded. We let Cherries and Bull slip through our fingers.
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Re: Week Five
by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 24 Jun 2015, 5:14 pm
Azzy wrote:Trebs I can see where you're coming from, don't sweat it. You vote how you feel, as we all do.
Unlucky Olly, I didn't think you'd play Luca Toni
Well played too you to young man - I actually did better than I thought I would lol
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Wed 24 Jun 2015, 6:30 pm
Viva, I apologise for over-reacting, well played in our game. Trebs, apologies for doubting your integrity.
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 7:51 pm
Kudos for ever believing a United fan has any integrity 
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 7:54 am
FIFA Diva wrote:Tough but winnable game against Dortmund, they have some world class players in their side,
Then you say it should have been a walkover.
You should show more respect to my Dortmund side, despite you writing 5 trillion words and smashing the word count limit you couldn't pull out the win. Sometimes you've got to put your hands up and say the better manager won.
It should have been a walkover, I was making sure I didn't come across as cocky.
I did show respect, but I still should have won.
The better manager won? It was a draw you clown
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Re: Week Five
by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 25 Jun 2015, 7:56 am
I'm 100% voting a loss for Madrid this week just to push marky over the edge
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 8:01 am
As long as its a legit loss I wouldn't mind so much.
I genuinely PM'd Hero last week betting him £5 Trebs wouldn't give me the win over Viva. Maybe Trebs was honest and felt Viva deserved a draw, but as there's been previous regarding those two voting for each other I'm allowed to be a little skeptical.
I genuinely PM'd Hero last week betting him £5 Trebs wouldn't give me the win over Viva. Maybe Trebs was honest and felt Viva deserved a draw, but as there's been previous regarding those two voting for each other I'm allowed to be a little skeptical.
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Re: Week Five
by Hero Thu 25 Jun 2015, 9:28 am
Marky did PM me, I don't owe the £5 though as I agreed with him!
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Thu 25 Jun 2015, 9:36 am
Marky just because you have the Galactico team, with some Galactico players, doesn't mean you should be walking over teams. Real have been beaten by much smaller teams than Dortmund in recent times, mainly due to their tactics. If you want to point the finger at someone, maybe start with yourself? Had you got your tactics right it may well have been the walkover you expected. Instead, you underestimated the underdog. I'd never do that
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Re: Week Five
by Hero Thu 25 Jun 2015, 9:59 am
I look forward to next season's rants at FIFA as the engine to decide games!
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:01 am
So we're planning to use TM for player values, but FIFA for doing results? Just off to check on prices for Doumbia, Ibarbo and Lacazette 
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Re: Week Five
by Hero Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:06 am
Would people be wanting to continue on with the current teams or a more balanced set?
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Re: Week Five
by Fernando Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:08 am
more balance and this is even with me opening a gap at the top 
ps. i can see why Trebs went 2-2 injuries hit Marky hard and ramires/walcott nd the cbs i dont rate highly
ps. i can see why Trebs went 2-2 injuries hit Marky hard and ramires/walcott nd the cbs i dont rate highly
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:12 am
Azzy wrote:Marky just because you have the Galactico team, with some Galactico players, doesn't mean you should be walking over teams. Real have been beaten by much smaller teams than Dortmund in recent times, mainly due to their tactics. If you want to point the finger at someone, maybe start with yourself? Had you got your tactics right it may well have been the walkover you expected. Instead, you underestimated the underdog. I'd never do that
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We had the same system, and I had better players in the same system as his. But it's all subjective so it is what it is. I didn't underestimate anybody.
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Re: Week Five
by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:13 am
Marky wrote:As long as its a legit loss I wouldn't mind so much.
I genuinely PM'd Hero last week betting him £5 Trebs wouldn't give me the win over Viva. Maybe Trebs was honest and felt Viva deserved a draw, but as there's been previous regarding those two voting for each other I'm allowed to be a little skeptical.
So I'm a cheat? I didn't expect that from you Marky and when have we voted for each other? If you remember Mighty was on course to winning the title back to back but I gave him a draw and Afro a win which cost him the league. Also when Nando accused me and Mighty of voting for each other I let that slide, instead of making rubbish up and look at the facts and you'd have known that I never voted for Mighty as manager of the week.
Very dissapointing to be called a dishonest cheater.
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Re: Week Five
by Azzy Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:13 am
I'd say more balanced as well. This has been fun but who will people be buying from TPs in next season's transfer window? We started off with most of the world's top players already in the league.
I'd go for Championship teams, but make money more generous.
I'd go for Championship teams, but make money more generous.
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Re: Week Five
by BamBam Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:30 am
FIFA sucks, how can it predict an attack with Alexis, Muller and Lewa to not get a sniff against that Arsenal defence
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Re: Week Five
by Marky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:33 am
FIFA Diva wrote:Marky wrote:As long as its a legit loss I wouldn't mind so much.
I genuinely PM'd Hero last week betting him £5 Trebs wouldn't give me the win over Viva. Maybe Trebs was honest and felt Viva deserved a draw, but as there's been previous regarding those two voting for each other I'm allowed to be a little skeptical.
So I'm a cheat? I didn't expect that from you Marky and when have we voted for each other? If you remember Mighty was on course to winning the title back to back but I gave him a draw and Afro a win which cost him the league. Also when Nando accused me and Mighty of voting for each other I let that slide, instead of making rubbish up and look at the facts and you'd have known that I never voted for Mighty as manager of the week.
Very dissapointing to be called a dishonest cheater.
Calm down. I never used the word cheat. But it's a common opinion that you and Trebs have voted for each other in the past, as well as giving each other manager of the week when that was in action. Whether true or not, it's a common opinion.
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Re: Week Five
by Fernando Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:35 am
The MOTW thing was true tbf Viva, He gave you it despite losing to me & refusing to run sheep :ok;
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Re: Week Five
by Holymiky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:39 am
We could do teams under a certain budget around the world and build our teams up?
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Re: Week Five
by Holymiky Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:40 am
We could get a group of teams and just randomise it again.
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