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Summer Tournament Round 2 - Pools C & D

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:21 am

Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Tuesday 7th July 2015
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday 8th July 2015
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday 9th July
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday 11th July 2015



Pool C

Chiefs vs. Bulls
Waikato Stadium, Hamilton

Chiefs
Manager – Dave Rennie

01. Mitchell Graham09. Augustine Pulu
02. Hika Elliot10. Aaron Cruden
03. Ben Tameifuna
04. Matt Symons11. James Lowe
05. Brodie Retallick12. Sonny Bill Williams
06. Liam Messam13. Charlie Ngatai
07. Sam Cane14. Tim Nanai-Williams
08. Michael Leitch15. Damien McKenzie
Subs:
16 Quentin MacDonald 17 Pauliasi Manu 18 Jamie Mackintosh 19 Michael Fitzgerald 20 Sean Polwart  21 Brad Weber 22 Andrew Horrell 23 Bryce Heem

Bulls
Manager – Frans Ludeke

01. Morne Mellett09. Rudy Paige
02. Adrian Strauss10. Handre Pollard
03. Marcel van der Merwe
04. Flip van der Merwe11. Travis Ismaiel
05. Grant Hattingh12. Burger Odendaal
06. Arno Botha13. JJ Engelbrecht
07. Jacques du Plessis14. Francois Hougaard
08. Pierre Spies15. Jesse Kriel
Subs:
16 Callie Visagie 17 Trevor Nyakane 18 Werner Kruger 19 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg 20 Roelof Smit 21 Bjorn Basson 22 Tiaan Schoeman 23 Jacques-Louis Potgeiter

Northampton Saints vs. Waratahs
Franklins Gardens

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Manager – Dammit_Chris

01. Mako Vunipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Dylan Hartley10. George Ford(K)
03. Martin Castrogiavani
04. Samu Manoa11. Julian Savea
05. Jonny Gray12. Matt Giteau
06. Jacques du Plessis13. Tyler Morgan
07. Schalk Burger14. Tommy Bowe
08. Sergio Parisse(c)15. Elliot Daly
Replacements:
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Michael Paterson 20. Sam Jones 21. Niko Matawulu 22. Alex Dunbar 23. Oliver Deveto

Waratahs
Manager – Michael Cheika

01. Benn Robinson09. Nick Phipps
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau 10. Bernard Foley
03. Sekope Kepu
04. Will Skelton11. Rob Horne
05. Dave Dennis12. Kurtley Beale
06. Jacques Potgieter13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
07. Michael Hooper14. Taqele Naiyaravoro
08. Wycliff Palu15. Israel Folau
Subs:
16 Silatolu Latu 17 Jeremy Tilse 18 Paddy Ryan 19 Sam Lousi 20 Mitch Chapman 21 Stephen Hoiles 22 Brendan McKibbin 23 Matt Carraro

London Wasps vs. Bath Rugby

Ricoh Arena

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Manager: CJ


01. Ben Arous09. Rhodri Williams
02. Richardt Strauss10. Finn Russell
03. Sekope Kepu
04. Grant Gilchrist11. Craig Gilroy
05. Sitaleki Timani12. George Moala
06. Chris Robshaw13. George Lowe
07. John Barclay14. Rob Horne
08. Victor Vito15. Jesse Mogg
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16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Matt Rees, 18. James Johnston,  19.  Donnacha Ryan, 20. Carl Fearns, 21. Ben Spencer , 22. Kyle Godwin, 23. Frank Halai

Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB


01. Richard Barrington09. Richard Wigglesworth
02. Richard Hibbard10. Jack Debrenczeni
03. Samson Lee
04. Graham Kitchener11. George North
05. Alexander Flanquardt 12. Christian Lealifano
06. Dan Lydiate13. Michele Campagnaro
07. Justin Tipuric 14. Christian Wade
08. Toby Falateu 15. Liam Williams
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16. Mikey Haywood 17. Ellis Genge 18. Ben Tameifuma 19. Charlie Matthews 20. Siya Kolisi 21. Tawera Kerr Barlow 22. Francis Saili 23. Alex Goode

Pool D


Hurricanes vs. Worcester Warriors
Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Hurricanes
Manager – Chris Boyd

01. Reggie Goodes09. TJ Perenara
02. Dane Coles10. Beauden Barrett
03. Ben Franks
04. Jeremy Thrush11. Julian Savea
05. James Broadhurst12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Brad Shields13. Conrad Smith
07. Ardie Savea14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
08. Victor Vito15. James Marshall
Subs:
16 Brayden Mitchell 17 Chris Eves 18 Jeff Toomaga-Allen 19 Mark Abbott 20 Blade Thomson  21 Chris Smylie 22 Ray Lee-Lo 23 Matt Proctor

Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd

01. Ryan Grant09. Lee Dickson
02. Codie Taylor10. Jules Plisson (K)
03. WP Nel
04. Devin Toner11. Venriki Goneva
05. Stuart Hooper 12. Jaimie  Roberts
06. Jackson Wray13. Huw Jones
07. Sam Warburton14. Waisake Naholo
08. Ben Morgan15. Jarrad Payne
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16. Ross Batty 17. Joe Moody 18. Henry Thomas 19. Tom Savage 20. David Sisi 21.Gareth Davies 22. Dan Biggar 23. Anton Leniert-Brown

Harlequins vs. Leicester Tigers
Twickenham Stoop

Summer Tournament Round 2 - Pools C & D 7Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks


1. Tony Woodcock
2. Scott Baldwin
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Manuka Gorgodze
7. Michael Hooper
8. Damien Chouly
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler
11. Joe Tomane
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Jack Nowell
15. Rob Kearney

16. Rob Buchanan 17. Benn Robinson 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Jim Hamilton 20. Tom Wood 21. Luke McGrath 22. Juan Martin Hernandez 23. Alex Lewington

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Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Scott Steele
02. Agustin Creevy10. Freddie Burns (K)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Kearnan Myall11. Alex Cuthbert
05. Victor Matfield (c)    12. Dan Bowden
06. Steve Mafi13. Henry Purdy
07. Jacques Burger14. Sean Maitland
08. JMF Lobbe15. Mike Brown
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16. Alex Corbisiero 17. Stephen Moore 18. Owen Franks 19. Pascal Papel 20. Thomas Waldrom 21. Kahn Fotuali'i 22. Paddy Jackson 23. Matt Banahan

Brumbies vs. Sharks
GIO Stadium, Canberra

Brumbies
Manager – Stephen Larkham

01. Scott Sio09. Nic White
02. Stephen Moore  10. Christian Lealiifano
03. Ben Alexander
04. Sam Carter11. Henry Speight
05. Rory Arnold12. Matt Toomua
06. Scott Fardy13. Tevita Kuridrani
07. David Pocock14. Joe Tomane
08. Ita Vaea15. Jesse Mogg
Subs:
16 Josh Mann-Rea 17 Allan Alaalatoa 18 Ruan Smith 19 Blake Enever 20 Jarrad Butler 21 Michael Dowsett 22  Nigel Ah Wong 23 Robbie Coleman

Sharks
Manager – Gary Gold

01. Tendai Mtawarira09. Cobus Reinach
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Patrick Lambie
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Pieter-Steph du Toit11. Lwazi Mvovo
05. Stephan Lewies12. Francois Steyn
06. Marcell Coetzee13.Waylon Murray
07. Willem Alberts14. JP Pietersen
08. Ryan Kankowski15. SP Marais
Subs:
16 Kyle Cooper 17 Thomas du Toit 18 Lourens Adriaanse 19 Marco Wentzel 20 Renaldo Bothma 21 Michael Claassens 22 Fred Zeilinga 23 Odwa Ndungane


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:51 am

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:21 pm

SJE, Pete would you prefer predos PM'd in one batch or one for each group. What's easiest for you to keep track?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:26 pm

This will be my first crack at it so Pete will know better then me but I'd say one pm please so I don't have to worry about space in my inbox.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:28 pm

Ok will send it in one - cheers to you and Pete for
Doing this.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:27 pm

I dislike that my group is full of AP teams...
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Post by BamBam Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:31 pm

I had the same thought about mine ..

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:44 pm

Its 3 EQ and 3 SH to each group??

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Post by BamBam Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:48 pm

Ha, I thought CJ was joking and was joining in!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:48 pm

Leicester TigersSummer Tournament Round 2 - Pools C & D 4
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Scott Steele
02. Agustin Creevy10. Freddie Burns (K)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Kearnan Myall11. Alex Cuthbert
05. Victor Matfield (c)    12. Dan Bowden
06. Steve Mafi13. Henry Purdy
07. Jacques Burger14. Sean Maitland
08. JMF Lobbe15. Mike Brown
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16. Alex Corbisiero 17. Stephen Moore 18. Owen Franks 19. Pascal Papel 20. Thomas Waldrom 21. Kahn Fotuali'i 22. Paddy Jackson 23. Matt Banahan

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:50 pm

dammit_chris wrote:SJE, Pete would you prefer predos PM'd in one batch or one for each group. What's easiest for you to keep track?

One PM is easiest I think.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:17 pm

Summer Tournament Round 2 - Pools C & D 50 London Welsh
Manager – CJ
01. Ben Arous 


09. Rhodri Williams


02. Richardt Strauss


10. Finn Russell


03. Sekope Kepu





04. Grant Gilchrist


11. Craig Gilroy


05. Sitaleki Timani


12. George Moala


06. Chris Robshaw


13. George Lowe


07. John Barclay


14. Rob Horne


08. Victor Vito


15. Jesse Mogg


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16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Matt Rees, 18. James Johnston,  19.  Donnacha Ryan, 20. Carl Fearns, 21. Ben Spencer , 22. Kyle Godwin, 23. Frank Halai


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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:32 pm

Northampton Saints
Manager: Dammit Chris

01. Mako Vunipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Dylan Hartley10. George Ford(K)
03. Martin Castrogiavani
04. Samu Manoa11. Julian Savea
05. Jonny Gray12. Matt Giteau
06. Jacques du Plessis13. Tyler Morgan
07. Schalk Burger14. Tommy Bowe
08. Sergio Parisse(c)15. Elliot Daly

Replacements:
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Michael Paterson 20. Sam Jones 21. Niko Matawulu 22. Alex Dunbar 23. Oliver Deveto

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:35 am

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Scott Baldwin
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Manuka Gorgodze
7. Michael Hooper
8. Damien Chouly
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler
11. Joe Tomane
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Jack Nowell
15. Rob Kearney

16. Rob Buchanan 17. Benn Robinson 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Jim Hamilton 20. Tom Wood 21. Luke McGrath 22. Juan Martin Hernandez 23. Alex Lewington

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:12 pm

01. Ryan Grant09. Lee Dickson
02. Codie Taylor10. Jules Plisson (K)
03. WP Nel
04. Devin Toner11. Venriki Goneva
05. Stuart Hooper 12. Jaimie  Roberts
06. Jackson Wray13. Huw  Jones
07. Sam Warburton14. Waisake Naholo
08. Ben Morgan15. Jarrad Payne
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16. Ross Batty 17. Joe Moody 18. Henry Thomas 19. Tom Savage 20. David Sisi 21.Gareth Davies 22. Dan Biggar 23. Anton Leniert-Brown
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:26 pm

CJB, tactics or no tactics?
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Post by CJB Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:33 am

I'm not mate, feel free if you want

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:13 am

PREDICTIONS OPEN

Will add a Bath teamsheet when it is handed in.

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Post by CJB Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:01 am

Poopie thought I had SJE, apologies

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Post by CJB Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:02 am

Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Richard Barrington09. Richard Wigglesworth
02. Richard Hibbard10. Jack Debrenczeni
03. Samson Lee
04. Graham Kitchener11. George North
05. Alexander Flanquardt 12. Christian Lealifano
06. Dan Lydiate13. Michele Campagnaro
07. Justin Tipuric 14. Christian Wade
08. Toby Falateu 15. Liam Williams
16. Mikey Haywood 17. Ellis Genge 18. Ben Tameifuma 19. Charlie Matthews 20. Siya Kolisi 21. Tawera Kerr Barlow 22. Francis Saili 23. Alex Goode

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:09 am

Added to the thread thumbsup

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:24 am

RESULTS (Feedback to follow)

Northampton Saints 34 (T:4 C:4 P:2)
Waratahs 31 (T:4 C:4 P:1)

London Wasps 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
Bath Rugby 28 (T:3 C:2 P:3)

Hurricanes 36 (T:5 C:4 P:1)
Worcester Warriors 29 (T:3 C:1 P:4)

Harlequins 34 (T:4 C:4 P:2)
Leicester Tigers 22 (T:2 P:4)

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:25 am

Northampton Saints v Waratahs

Saints 30-33 Tahs
Going to be an interesting pack battle with both front rows nullifying each other. More carry for Saints in 2nd row but feel Manoa is better suited to backrow and will get held up here. Great backrow battle and I think Tahs will get an edge with Hooper over Burger. Ford the standout half back on show. Feel Morgan will struggle against AAC and that Tah’s have the stronger backline. Tough game to predict with 2 strong sides on show but I feel that the Tahs will get the win here with the backrow and back 3 they have. Great game and high scoring.

Saints 33 -30 Waratahs
Great battle this, 2 very strong sides. Definitely think Saints have the advantage in the scrum, and about evens in the lineout. Breakdown edge to Waratahs with the quality of Hooper the difference. Ford and Phipps the better halfbacks for me, and unsure how Morgan will do up against AAC. Quality players on show in the back 3, other than Savea I think Waratahs are arguably stronger. Saints have more off the bench, and with home field they have enough to win this

Northampton 22-26 Waratahs
Scrum edge to Tahs with Castro a waning force and more support in the 2nd row. Both sides with big carriers but Tahs have a bit more about them at the breakdown. One a piece at halfbacks but Tahs stronger as a combo. Morgan a weakness for Saints atm. Back three fairly tight overall. Like Matawulu off the bench a good game changing option. Tahs with the better platform to attack off in this one take the win.

Northampton 28–32 Waratahs
I could see Tah’s getting a scrum advantage with Castro a bit of a weakness for Saints. Not much in the engine rooms and line out with two good units but Saints just take the backrow battle in a good contest. Phipps a good step up on Simpson and Foley just ahead of Ford currently in the halfback battle. 12’s very close but AAC a big step up on Morgan gives the Tah’s the centre battle.  I just prefer the Waratahs back 3 with Folau and Savea the standouts. Very strong Waratahs outfit match the Saints pack and are a level up in the backline to get a good away win.

Northampton Saints 45 Waratahs 39
It's a big Saints pack, with lots of experience and good balance to it. Question marks over Castrogiovanni, who seems to be on the decline, and Hartley, who's big match temperament appears to be shot. Other than that, it should have enough to get on top of a Waratahs pack which despite being talented, underperformed in the big games this year. Both back lines will score and concede tries, with almost every player on show being better in attack than defence, another huge scoring game.

Saints 29-28 Waratahs
Great battle- saints take front 5 but even back row. A better unit at hb for tahs and then it's an interesting battle in the back with great matchups all over. Can see lots of tries but saints edging it at home 

Saints 26 vs 25 Waratahs 
Saints edge the whole tight 5. Not sure about their breakdown balance in backrow, and Waratahs can edge them here. Very close at HB, like the attacking nature of saints combo. Tight again between 2 very strong backlines, overall the front 5 and home advantage help saints 

Northampton Saints 38 - 29 Waratahs

Saints 28 - 25 Waratahs
Slight edge to saints up front, and think they take second row battle too. Tight back row contest, but overall think Saints have a bit too much power for the tahs. Prefer tahs hbs, one apiece in the centres, saints edge the back three. Saints a bit too strong.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:26 am

London Wasps v Bath Rugby

Wasps-Bath
No contest at present.

Wasps 32 - 32 Bath
Two very even packs on show and can't really see either getting an advantage there or from their subs bench. There is a lot of danger out wide for Bath, probably the best attacking back three in the league, but I haven't seen their no10 play and believe Russell to be an extremely good fly half and it is this factor that results in the draw.

Wasps 29 - 24 Bath
Think Wasps have a slightly stronger scrum, but Bath take the lineout. Great breakdown battle, I think Wasps have the advantage with Robshaw/Barclay even though the Bath unit is more established. Think Wasps have a stronger set of carriers in the pack too. Don't know much about the Bath 10 so tough to comment, but they've got a clear advantage in the rest of the outside backs. Benches fairly even, i'll go with home advantage and give this to Wasps.

Wasps 33-26 Bath
See Wasps getting a scrum edge and feel their pack gives more at the breakdown overall and can slow Bath up. Two decent young 10s on show but Russell looks the brighter talent for me and will do well off good ball. Midfield battle is tight but Bath a step up in the back three. Genge will struggle late on at scrum time. See Russell being the star in this one with his pack getting on top.

Wasps 24–24 Bath
Wasps stronger in the propping department with Bath the stronger hooker will just allow Wasps to get  an advantage in the scrum.  Not much in the engine rooms but Wasps backrow can just get on top with a good trio. Pretty much one a piece in the halfbacks with 2 decent units. 13’s close but Bath take the 12’s with Leilo in good form of late.  Wasps back 3 no mugs but Bath have a strong unit out. Hard to split this one so I’m sitting on the fence.

Wasps 23 Bath Rugby 34
Nice balance to the Wasps pack, the main issue being the second row, where Timani has faded into obscurity in Montpellier, and Gilchrist has been out injured. If he comes back well and has a good World Cup will be a real asset, but definite question marks there. For Bath, the Welsh back row works balance wise, but that front row can be got at and there is a bit of a lack of carrying the pack as a whole. Not much in the half backs, but man for man I'd take every Bath player from 11 to 15 over his opposite number. I can see them finishing whatever chances come their way, whislt I don't have the same confidence in the Wasps lads, and for that reason I'm giving Bath the win. 

Wasps 22-20 Bath
Wasps have made some great signings and think they take the front 5 with a more physical unit. Great backrow battle with wasps having some great form with vito. Bath lack carrying in their backrow and throughout the pack. This allows wasps to get more front foot cleaner ball. Both teams centres struggling a bit for form but more ball equals a a wasps win

London Wasps 20 - 29 Bath Rugby
Wasps a much improved side, and a lot stronger unit. Bath however are strong in the set piece and allows them to get their halfbacks in the game and backs moving nicely. Wasps have made some very good signings and will be very interesting to see how they develop over the coming weeks, but this one is a little too soon for them

Wasps 23 - 25 Bath 
Slightly favour bath front row, with second rows one apiece. tough to call the back row, not much in it overall with the packs. Edge to Wasps at hb, with bath taking the centres and back three. Good game, overall bath a tad more quality.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:27 am

Hurricanes v Worcester Warriors

Hurricanes 35 - 32 Worcester Warriors
High scoring close game, love the Warriors backline who have some really exciting runners and great option for Roberts at no12 to straighten the line and suck in defenders. Biggar is best no10 option for Warriors, but feel they might just lack a forward or two that can get them over the gain line so a lot of responsibility on Roberts.

Hurricanes 34-32 Worcester
Hurricanes stronger at scrum and Worcester at the lineout. Great back row battle, think the proven class of Warbs and Morgan takes it. Hurricanes HBs are top notch, and the rest of their outside backs aren't far behind, tough one for Worcester this, think Hurricanes will take it especially at home, despite the late Worcester impact which will make it close

Hurricanes 34-29 Worcester
Slight scrum edge to Canes. Grant would be a weakness against most first choice THs in the league atm. Worc more capable of turning over ball but don't see either side really slowing the other down. Think Canes have an edge in the forward carrying stakes. Canes edge the halfbacks and midfield although Roberts will do well. Back three closer but Canes still edge.

Hurricanes 34–24 Worcester
Cane’s get a good scrum nudge on with Grant struggling of late for Worcester. Similar story in the engine room with Canes stronger although line out will be close. Warburton a step up on Savea but Shields/Vito better than their opposition in current form, overall a good pack advantage for Canes. Hurricanes backline is highly impressive and they’ll cause Worcester issues from 10-13 especially. Toughest away game available at the minute and I just can’t see Wuss getting near this Hurricanes side.

Hurricanes 33 Worcester Warriors 24
Despite not winning it, the Hurricanes were the best side across the Super Rugby season by a stretch. The pack they have here is a match for anyone and I think the Worcester front 5 could struggle. The props are better than they had before, but still not top class and Hooper is out of his depth in this game. Back line for Worcester is good, but the half backs lack some spark, and I'm not sure will get the best out of the guys behind them. I just think the Hurricanes have to much on this occasion for an improving Worcester side.

Canes 29-25 Worcester
Canes a great side and have more quality in key positions like 9 and 10. The Hurricanes back line is superb and In their backrow they have great form. Can't see many sides beating the canes 

Canes 30 vs 24 Worcester
Canes take the front 5 with an excellent unit, like the Wuss locks though. Back rows similar and very close, halfbacks also to Canes. Roberts a good counter to Nonu at 12 and equal back 3s on show who will score at will, but with Jones vs Smith at 13, the Canes are just ahead on every area and at home are too strong 

Hurricanes 32 - 31 Worcester Warriors
Warriors have the ability to worry Canes, but the way the Canes have been playing is almost untouchable at times. The only way to stop them is to play one of two ways, either high intensity much like Highlanders, or suffocate them up front and stop them generating front foot ball. Looking at the Wuss side I don't think they have what they need to get the victory, but they have the ability to push Canes all the way. 

Hurricanes 27 - 24 Worcester 
Canes get on top at the scrum, and edge the second row too. As a trio slight favour towards worcs back row, but as a unit canes take the pack. Bit more about canes hbs, and they edge centres too, whilst back three tight. Canes have a bit too much for worcs today.

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Quins 32-26 Tigers
Big fan of Baldwin and think that boosts Quins’ front row here. 2nd rows a bit better for Quins if they target Myall. Backrow a lot closer here but Quins take the half back pairing same in the centres and back 3 with Quins getting the good front foot ball. Only saving grace for Tigers is their bench but it won’t be enough today.

Quins 28 - 21 Leicester Tigers
Starting with Tigers they have one of the strongest set piece packs in the league and will generate a lot of great ball from lineouts with their options, but feel they lack strong carriers in the locks, maybe switching Mafi there and using another no6 could sort that out. Quins team very well balanced throughout, good hb combination and can see them getting the advantage as the game opens up. JJ can cause a lot of problems for Purdy.

Harlequins 25-17 Leicester
Edge scrum time to Tigers but they aren't as destructive as they once were. Think they can cause a few issues at the lineout as well. Quins a good step up on the flanks though and get a lot more from the front 5 in the loose. Quins halfbacks offer greater control and have the ability to get Burrell/JJ on the ball as well. Full back is debatable but Quins edge 11-14 . Purdy a weakness in regular games. Tigers can really turn the screw scrum time late on and Jackson in good nick. Expect Quins to see the better ball overall and with a good set of backs can put a score on.

Harlequins 23–22 Leicester
Both Looseheads struggling for form of late but Tigers stronger at 2 and 3 gives them a scrum advantage. More around the park for the Quins engine room but can see them struggling in the line out, especially with the Tigers options in the back 5. Close backrow battle with Quins taking 6 and 7’s close with Lobbe a step up on Chouly . One a piece in the halfbacks but Quins combo stronger. Back 3’s very close but Quins centres much stronger.  I can see Tigers getting set piece advantage but not quite having enough in the backs to see things home.

Harlequins 35 Leicester Tigers 22
Really not sure on the front 5. Other than in the lineout Matfield is a passenger these days, and having Myall alongside him is a massive issue. Decent advantage for Quins up front with a solid if slightly unspectacular front 5. Both back rows decent but prefer Quins balance. Not sold on either half back pairing, but Pienaar the standout. Quins back line also better, with the Tigers centre pairing a real weakness. Comfortable home win.

Quinn 24- 17 Leicester 
Quinn go at this at full strength where as Leicester trying out a few things. Pack is very one sided with Quinn more physical, dynamic and better in nearly each pack position. Lack of carrying to Leicester. Never heard of the Leicester 9 and in a game like this out of depth. Leicester improve when they intro bench but routine win for Quins

Quins 27 vs 23 Tigers- 
very close with not the strongest front rows on offer, Quins take the locks. Very canny backrow from Tigers vs a very physically gifted one from Quins, probably give Quins the edge. Pienarr>Steele. Kearney looks a bit lack lustre these days but Brown not been playing for a while, and Quins have a more experienced and powerful centre setting. Quins also better defensively on the wings and I think win comfortably 

Harlequins 31 - 26 Leicester Tigers
Tigers, have a solid platform, to control possession and put the Quins pack on the back foot. Tigers have the pace and ability to worry the Quins defence in points but there are some worries at 9 and 12 against high quality sides, much like Quins back line which with quick possession can cut through the Tigers defence. The control of Myler and Pienaar are the difference in this one as they keep quins momentum rolling.

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