The official "Even London Irish have got a thread" Scarlets thread 2015/16

by Chunky Norwich Tue 11 Aug 2015, 7:30 pm

First topic message reminder :

Come on bois.

by True Raven Sun 13 Mar 2016, 12:38 pm

And ill just add that scarlets don't have a good deal because he just fits in with rawlins and price who are players with limited professional experience who need time to develop. They need to get a proper experienced second row with grunt not another promising player

by Stone Motif Sun 13 Mar 2016, 1:37 pm

True Raven wrote:He's clearly behind Ashley and Thornton. To be honest waynes a knowledgeable poster but id prefer the opinions of the ospreys coaching staff personally

Are you Steve Tandy?

Bernado missing out to journeymen flankers is a massive reason you're staring RCC2 in the face.

by True Raven Sun 13 Mar 2016, 2:05 pm

And it looks like he's addressing that by signing davies. But Bernardo isn't our second best second row, he's lighter than Ashley so offers less power in the scrum and Thornton is a better lineout forward and better at defending mauls so scarlets are welcome to have him

by VinceWLB Sun 13 Mar 2016, 2:11 pm

Bernardo less powerful than Ashey? Sorry TR but i don't believe that for a second.

by ScarletSpiderman Sun 13 Mar 2016, 6:13 pm

Raven, I hadn't considered the release fee. Fair enough if your the only one willing to pay it.

Pivac has said that the NWQ places would only go on first team (I assume 23) players, and not on filler, so I really prey we don't waste them on your cast offs, even though he would technically only be time serving for another year. I'm assuming he would come very cheap mind.

by True Raven Sun 13 Mar 2016, 7:04 pm

SS read the release fee is £150,000. Surprised Cardiff can't afford that, unless it's on principle but then he's contracted for another year so can't moan if they don't get him. Personally I think he's just what the Scarlets need

by ScarletSpiderman Sun 13 Mar 2016, 7:10 pm

Hey we all moan even when we have no grounds to Whistle

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 15 Mar 2016, 11:19 am

A bit of weird news, it looks like DaiTH no longer wants to be DaiTH and is after a move away in the Summer, supposedly for family reasons. That is a major blow for the Scarlets ambitions next season IMO.

Our backline will look a bit amateur during the international windows unless we can sign a decent winger to replace him, and sadly based on our recent wing signings I cant see that happening.

by **RiscaGame** Tue 15 Mar 2016, 2:12 pm

Bet Amos' agent will be sounding that move out

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 15 Mar 2016, 2:57 pm

Rev, I'm still not keen on that. He is a tidy player and would definitely fit the bill. But, he is a Dragon and wanted by the Dragons too, that would just feel wrong.

by Seagultaf Tue 15 Mar 2016, 8:57 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:A bit of weird news, it looks like DaiTH no longer wants to be DaiTH and is after a move away in the Summer, supposedly for family reasons. That is a major blow for the Scarlets ambitions next season IMO.

Our backline will look a bit amateur during the international windows unless we can sign a decent winger to replace him, and sadly based on our recent wing signings I cant see that happening.

DTH form has dropped off significantly since he joined the Scarlets, he was electric in the World Cup and his first few games for the Scarlets but looks pretty tame now. Maybe he is just not happy?

by **RiscaGame** Wed 16 Mar 2016, 12:11 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Rev, I'm still not keen on that. He is a tidy player and would definitely fit the bill. But, he is a Dragon and wanted by the Dragons too, that would just feel wrong.

Fair enough SS

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 16 Mar 2016, 7:18 am

When ever family reasons are given as the reason for an exit you always do wonder whether there is more to it. But that said if your partner is unhappy then that will effect you as well. Either way he will be a major loss for us.

by wayne Wed 16 Mar 2016, 10:01 am

VinceWLB wrote:
True Raven wrote:Lol no he's not. He's a good lineout forward but will not add anything to the scarlets team and he's not yet completed three years so hell take up a NWQ for a year.

The issue with Davies isn't why are the ospreys getting so many NDC, its why are the other regions not showing some ambition and pay the compensation needed to release him from his contract. Hed be with the blues if they put their money where their mouth is

I would like to hear Wayne comments about Bernardo. Thornton and Beard are still very green although very promising. And i'm 100% certain he wouldn't have Peers, King or Ardron who are all basically blindside ahead of Bernardo who is a specialist 2nd row.

Sorry to be so long replying to this, myself and most of the knowledgeable posters on our site would have Bernardo over Ashley any day of the week, but not ahead of Thornton, we also need to stop selecting back row forwards in the boiler house, the only advantage to Bernardo leaving is the option of a classier NWQ, joining in his place and if it is true that Davies is joining us it would be an upgrade.

by Seagultaf Wed 16 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:When ever family reasons are given as the reason for an exit you always do wonder whether there is more to it. But that said if your partner is unhappy then that will effect you as well. Either way he will be a major loss for us.

Maybe he has had a better offer. Hopefully the Scarlets will get a good transfer fee for him, his World Cup form must make him an attractive acquisition?

by ScarletSpiderman Sat 26 Mar 2016, 4:59 pm

Huge result today. Sadly I had to use the pro12 app to keep track of the score (too cheap for sky), but looking forward to watching it in S4C Monday.

by ScarletSpiderman Sat 26 Mar 2016, 7:47 pm

Scott due back for Dragons on judgement day, but Sanjay is out for the season with a team wales injury. So our two biggest stars may total 4 appearances between them this season

by mikey_dragon Sat 26 Mar 2016, 8:32 pm

What happened to Sanjay? I thought he was only out for this game...

by ScarletSpiderman Sat 26 Mar 2016, 9:43 pm

Hamstring injury according to the fail.

by mikey_dragon Sat 26 Mar 2016, 9:46 pm

Must be a pretty serious one to have put him out for the season.

by ScarletSpiderman Sat 26 Mar 2016, 10:00 pm

4-6 weeks it said, so if we get to the play offs he may play. Mother wise it'll be England and NZ in the summer most likely

by 2ndtimeround Sat 26 Mar 2016, 11:13 pm

As far as all the top Welsh players are concerned actually playing for a region will always be 2nd place to been available for Team Wales.
Until Gatland goes we will not truly compete.

by Seagultaf Mon 28 Mar 2016, 2:26 pm

I have been suprised how well the Scarlets have gone this season. They have been helped by the disruption of the World Cup and 6N and by the maturing youngsters, such as Samson, Rob Evans and Cubby. The once games back division has looked a bit bare with the Williams boys missing leading to the ageing King playing regularly and a succession of out of position backs playing wing. The lack of a first choice 10 has also been a problem, Singler is probably the pick of the bunch but has been constantly injured this season.
Still good season for them and hopefully they will get to the playoffs. A bit of luck with injuries they may provide a real challenge.
Next season they will have Patchell at 10 and JD2 at centre. They will need to recruit a wing (two if DTH is leaving) a tight head to replace Rhodri and a lock to replace the perennially injured Earl.

by Seagultaf Mon 28 Mar 2016, 5:31 pm

I see that Kirby Myhill is leaving the Scarlets for the Blues. Not sure how good a move this is. With Ken Owens and potentially Emyr Phillips involved with Wales, he may get more game time at PYS.

by ScarletSpiderman Mon 28 Mar 2016, 6:26 pm

Possibly, yet we have Ryan Ellias and a few other youngster pushing too. At the Blues he is pretty likely to be involved in the match day squad all season round. I have heard his brother Torin may also be heading to the Blues, but I'm hoping that is just crossed wires.

by Seagultaf Tue 29 Mar 2016, 4:53 pm

I see that Rory Pitman has left the Scarlets, to me he looked quite promising but with Allen and Barkley playing at 8 he was going to get few opportunities.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 30 Mar 2016, 1:42 pm

Rory Pitman is no longer with the region, with immediate effect, by mutual consent.

Real shame for him, he started off really well. He had that Brace against Ulster in his first Pro12 game, and looked like he had a big future ahead of him. Then he started to have issues with catching the ball, or holding on to it in contact. And then came the injuries. As much as I like him as a player (and from what I have seen of him as a person), I don't think he will be much of a loss. I just hope he can pick up a contract somewhere, but I can't see any Pro12 or English Prem side willing to take the gamble.

by LordDowlais Tue 05 Apr 2016, 8:45 am

Emyr Phillips has signed a 2 year extension:-

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/35966599

by **RiscaGame** Tue 05 Apr 2016, 5:34 pm

Sure Lyn will take a punt. WQ (I assume) and a castoff. Just the ticket.

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 05 Apr 2016, 8:20 pm

Jordan Williams is off to Bristol now, pretty much a like for like replacement for Matthew Morgan I guess.

by mikey_dragon Wed 06 Apr 2016, 12:59 am

RiscaGame wrote:Sure Lyn will take a punt. WQ (I assume) and a castoff. Just the ticket.

Not if we're going for the former Blues 8.

by **George Carlin** Tue 12 Apr 2016, 11:39 am

Kettle's on, you fellers:
https://www.606v2.com/t62822-scarlets-v-glasgow-warriors-16-april

Confident about this one?

by 2ndtimeround Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:10 am

Looking highly likely we've got Jonny Mcnicholl from Crusaders, next years back line looking the strongest we've had in years.

http://www.superxv.com/mcnicholl-join-welsh-club-scarlets/

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:14 am

From what I have heard Mcnicholl may well end up the same way as when we almost signed Cory Jane a few years back, where it is pretty much in the bag unless the All Blacks come calling. Personally I have a horrible feeling he is more likely to end up coming off the bench against Wales this summer than actually arriving at Parc Y Scarlets.

by 2ndtimeround Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:49 am

At 29 he's not going to be a timeserver, so unless he suddenly becomes a regular AB then there is no reason to stop this move, even if he does pick up a cap beforehand.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:54 am

He's 25 and I think he does fall in the timer server age range. So a cap for New Zealand would then move him to NWQ which limits our chances of getting him and the lock and backow we want.

Also have heard that Tagi is off to Treviso, and Reggie is joining Merthyr or Treviso, most likely Merthyr. I am not too sure how true these are but I would be surprised by either of the moves.

by munkian Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:59 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:He's 25 and I think he does fall in the timer server age range. So a cap for New Zealand would then move him to NWQ which limits our chances of getting him and the lock and backow we want.

Also have heard that Tagi is off to Treviso, and Reggie is joining Merthyr or Treviso, most likely Merthyr. I am not too sure how true these are but I would be surprised by either of the moves.

I've heard Tagi may come to Dragons so God knows.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 10:04 am

Munk, I had heard similar. But from what I can gather the Treviso deal seems more likely.

by True Raven Wed 13 Apr 2016, 10:05 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:He's 25 and I think he does fall in the timer server age range. So a cap for New Zealand would then move him to NWQ which limits our chances of getting him and the lock and backow we want.

Also have heard that Tagi is off to Treviso, and Reggie is joining Merthyr or Treviso, most likely Merthyr. I am not too sure how true these are but I would be surprised by either of the moves.

He should do, they have to be 25 years for backs or 28 years for forwards. Although having witnessed the Scots recruitment drive over the last few years, he'll be in their six nations sqaud next year so might count as a NWQ

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 10:16 am

Raven, he certainly falls into the type of player they like, he's got a kiwi accent.

by munkian Wed 13 Apr 2016, 10:17 am

Everyone else's recruitment > Our recruitment Rolling Eyes

by 2ndtimeround Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:31 pm

He'll be 26 by the time he arrives it seems, just looked it up as I was sure I had read he was 29, no idea if that would stop him been a time server but he is exactly what we need even he is taking up a NWQ place. it looks to be on either way as he has tweeted it himself today to say he is pleased it can finally be announced.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 7:45 pm

Seeing his tweet (is that right?) definitely puts my fears at rest. The comment about wanting to play for Wales after residency seems to show he is seen as a time server, but he would be too old by a few months, and only on a 2 and a chunk of time contract.

Also Pivac seems to keep mentioning DTH in his 'building a side' stuff so hopefully that means he is staying after all. We seem to be assembling a good 'during internationals' squad.

Steff Evs (Collins if he returns after the ITM), McNicholl, Steff Hughes, Parkes, DTH, Patchell, Aled (or J Evans);
Dylan Evans, Emyr Phillips (Elias if Emyr is called up), Kruger, Bullbring, Price, Shingler, Boyde, Allen

With the likes of Tom Phillips, Lewis Rawlings, Jack Condy, Pete the meat etc competing for places too.

by 2ndtimeround Wed 13 Apr 2016, 8:42 pm

Plus Pivac has stated he expects to sign a couple more, with the quality of player we have signed since he's taken over as a guide I would say we finally have something to look forward to.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 13 Apr 2016, 8:55 pm

Pivac is definitely using his New Zealand connections well in recruiting. But I am curious to see what kind of standard forwards he is looking at bringing in, because so far he has seemed to go for the more athletic style forwards, when we really need grunt.

Also he has brought in our worst signing to date in the invisible Will Taylor. At least Chris Hala'ufia had the decency to sod off and not use keep taking the pay cheques.

by True Raven Wed 13 Apr 2016, 11:51 pm

If patchell clicks at 10 that is one hell of a backline....so good your best player this year (Hadleigh parkes) wont be in the team! Need quality second rows though and 6 and 8 although condy looked good when he played (assuming he's injured)

by mikey_dragon Thu 14 Apr 2016, 12:21 am

Which Kruger is that SS? I don't remember him. And yes Pivac is certainly using his NZ connections well, you almost have a S15 team. I hope for your sake the front 5 stays fit and well. I would love to see what the Scarlets can do against the best in Europe with a full team.

by True Raven Thu 14 Apr 2016, 12:32 am

Blue bulls tighthead prop. A bit long in the tooth but will provide excellent cover when Samson lee is with wales and he's up against second teamers

by ScarletSpiderman Thu 14 Apr 2016, 7:19 am

I think Kruger being long in the tooth, and not featuring much in the SuperRugby may mean that he is another that hasn't kept up with the times. But time will tell.

As for Parkes, I think with Foxy on an NDC, and the amount of knocks both him and Sott have had in recent years, we could see a fair bit of Parkes still. Looking at the players Pivac has signed though he does seem to like to get players who can shuffle around the backline, so that should make us a bit more robust when injuries occur.

We need to finish off this season as strong as possible to try and get a decent pool for Europe next season, but next season should be our bet chance of progressing for years, as we are unlikely to be bottom seeds for a change which will be nice.

by mikey_dragon Thu 14 Apr 2016, 11:20 am

Ah yeah I remember him now. A debatable signing, but we'll see.

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