Summer Tournament - Cup and Trophy Semi Finals
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Summer Tournament - Cup and Trophy Semi Finals
Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Tuesday 15th September 2015
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday 16th September 2015
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday 17th September 2015
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday 20th September 2015
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday 16th September 2015
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday 17th September 2015
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday 20th September 2015
CUP
Sale Sharks vs. Northampton Saints
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
01. Marcos Ayerza | 09. Danny Care |
02. Benjamin Kayser | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Davit Zirakishvilli | |
04. Brodie Retalick | 11. Simon Zebo |
05. Dave Attwood | 12. Kyle Eastmond |
06. Peter O'Mahony | 13. Malakai Fekitoa |
07. Sam Cane | 14. Nemani Nadolo |
08. Louis Picamoles | 15. Nick Abendanon |
16. Tommy Taylor 17. Jack McGrath 18. Rabah Slimani 19. Maro Itoje 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Francois Steyn 23. Semesa Rokoduguni
Northampton Saints
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dylan Hartley
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Jonny Gray
5. Courtney Lawes
6. Schalk Burger
7. David Pocock (c)
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Sam Hildago Cline
10. George Ford
11. Julian Savea
12. Matt Giteau
13. Elliot Daly
14. Nick Cummins
15. Leigh Halfpenny (k)
Replacements
16. Dave Ward 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Billy Vunipola 21. Joe Simpson 22. Weslie Fofana 23. Ben Foden
Hurricanes vs. London Irish
Hurricanes
Manager – Chris Boyd
01. Reggie Goodes | 09. TJ Perenara |
02. Dane Coles | 10. Beauden Barrett |
03. Ben Franks | |
04. Jeremy Thrush | 11. Julian Savea |
05. James Broadhurst | 12. Ma'a Nonu |
06. Brad Shields | 13. Conrad Smith |
07. Ardie Savea | 14. Nehe Milner-Skudder |
08. Victor Vito | 15. James Marshall |
16 Brayden Mitchell 17 Chris Eves 18 Jeff Toomaga-Allen 19 Mark Abbott 20 Blade Thomson 21 Chris Smylie 22 Ray Lee-Lo 23 Matt Proctor
London Irish
Manager: Ozzy3213
01. Thomas du Toit | 09. Mitchell Drummond |
02. Liam Coltman | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. Ben Alexander | |
04. Matt Symons | 11. Tom Fowlie |
05. Sebastien Vahaamahina | 12. Samu Kerevi |
06. Rynhardt Elstadt | 13. JJ Engelbrecht |
07. Blake Gibson | 14. Marland Yarde |
08. Marcell Coetzee | 15. Delon Armitage |
16. Harry Thacker 17. Ben Moon 18. Fraser Balmain 19. James Broadhurst 20. Hayden Thompson-Stringer 21. Will Homer 22. Shane Geraghty 23. Pita Ahki
TROPHY
Crusaders vs. Harlequins
Crusaders
Manager – Todd Blackadder
01. Wyatt Crockett | 09. Andrew Ellis |
02. Codie Taylor | 10. Dan Carter |
03. Owen Franks | |
04. Luke Romano | 11. Nemani Nadolo |
05. Sam Whitelock | 12. Ryan Crotty |
06. Jordan Taufua | 13. Robbie Fruean |
07. Richie McCaw | 14. Johnny McNicholl |
08. Kieran Read | 15. Israel Dagg |
16 Ben Funnell 17 Joe Moody 18 Nepo Laulala 19 Dominic Bird 20 Matt Todd 21 Mitchell Drummond 22 Colin Slade 23 Nafi Tuitavake
Quins
1. Tony Woodcock
2. Scott Baldwin
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Mamuka Gorgodze
7. Michael Hooper (c)
8. Nick Easter
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler (k)
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Yoann Huget
15. Rob Kearney
16. Schalk Brits 17. Benn Robinson 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. George Kruis 20. Tom Wood 21. Karl Dickson 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Robbie Henshaw
Waratahs vs. Gloucester
Waratahs
Manager – Michael Cheika
01. Benn Robinson | 09. Nick Phipps |
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau | 10. Bernard Foley |
03. Sekope Kepu | |
04. Will Skelton | 11. Rob Horne |
05. Dave Dennis | 12. Kurtley Beale |
06. Jacques Potgieter | 13. Adam Ashley-Cooper |
07. Michael Hooper | 14. Taqele Naiyaravoro |
08. Wycliff Palu | 15. Israel Folau |
16 Silatolu Latu 17 Jeremy Tilse 18 Paddy Ryan 19 Sam Lousi 20 Mitch Chapman 21 Stephen Hoiles 22 Brendan McKibbin 23 Matt Carraro
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
Beast
Strauss
Mas
Etzbeth
Robson
Alberts
Savea
Heaslip
Perenara
Carter
May
Toomua
Kurindrani
Walker
Folau
Wood
LCD
Antonio
Gray
Matera
Robson
Cips
Talebula
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Ozzy3213- Moderator
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Re: Summer Tournament - Cup and Trophy Semi Finals
Can I use same side again. Struggling for time full stop at moment. Not helped by going to World Cup games Friday Saturday and Sunday this week so will struggle to predict
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Quins
1. Tony Woodcock
2. Scott Baldwin
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Mamuka Gorgodze
7. Michael Hooper (c)
8. Nick Easter
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler (k)
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Yoann Huget
15. Rob Kearney
16. Schalk Brits 17. Benn Robinson 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. George Kruis 20. Tom Wood 21. Karl Dickson 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Robbie Henshaw
1. Tony Woodcock
2. Scott Baldwin
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Mamuka Gorgodze
7. Michael Hooper (c)
8. Nick Easter
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler (k)
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Yoann Huget
15. Rob Kearney
16. Schalk Brits 17. Benn Robinson 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. George Kruis 20. Tom Wood 21. Karl Dickson 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Robbie Henshaw
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Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
Subs:
16. Tommy Taylor 17. Jack McGrath 18. Rabah Slimani 19. Maro Itoje 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Francois Steyn 23. Semesa Rokoduguni
Manager – SJE
01. Marcos Ayerza | 09. Danny Care |
02. Benjamin Kayser | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Davit Zirakishvilli | |
04. Brodie Retalick | 11. Simon Zebo |
05. Dave Attwood | 12. Kyle Eastmond |
06. Peter O'Mahony | 13. Malakai Fekitoa |
07. Sam Cane | 14. Nemani Nadolo |
08. Louis Picamoles | 15. Nick Abendanon |
16. Tommy Taylor 17. Jack McGrath 18. Rabah Slimani 19. Maro Itoje 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Francois Steyn 23. Semesa Rokoduguni
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Re: Summer Tournament - Cup and Trophy Semi Finals
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
Beast
Strauss
Mas
Etzbeth
Robson
Alberts
Savea
Heaslip
Perenara
Carter
May
Toomua
Kurindrani
Walker
Folau
Wood
LCD
Antonio
Gray
Matera
Robson
Cips
Talebula
Manager – anonmattyt
Beast
Strauss
Mas
Etzbeth
Robson
Alberts
Savea
Heaslip
Perenara
Carter
May
Toomua
Kurindrani
Walker
Folau
Wood
LCD
Antonio
Gray
Matera
Robson
Cips
Talebula
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Northampton Saints
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dylan Hartley
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Jonny Gray
5. Courtney Lawes
6. Schalk Burger
7. David Pocock (c)
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Sam Hildago Cline
10. George Ford
11. Julian Savea
12. Matt Giteau
13. Elliot Daly
14. Nick Cummins
15. Leigh Halfpenny (k)
Replacements
16. Dave Ward 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Billy Vunipola 21. Joe Simpson 22. Weslie Fofana 23. Ben Foden
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dylan Hartley
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Jonny Gray
5. Courtney Lawes
6. Schalk Burger
7. David Pocock (c)
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Sam Hildago Cline
10. George Ford
11. Julian Savea
12. Matt Giteau
13. Elliot Daly
14. Nick Cummins
15. Leigh Halfpenny (k)
Replacements
16. Dave Ward 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Billy Vunipola 21. Joe Simpson 22. Weslie Fofana 23. Ben Foden
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Predictions OPEN, predos to SJE please.
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RESULTS:
Sale Sharks 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
Northampton Saints 28 (T:3 C:2 P:3)
Hurricanes 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
London Irish 22 (T:1 C:1 P:5)
Crusaders 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)
Harlequins 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
Waratahs 24 (T:2 C:1 P:4)
Gloucester 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)
BONUS:
Full: Steve, Bam, Chris, Pooly & CJ
Score: SJE
Sale Sharks 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
Northampton Saints 28 (T:3 C:2 P:3)
Hurricanes 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
London Irish 22 (T:1 C:1 P:5)
Crusaders 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)
Harlequins 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
Waratahs 24 (T:2 C:1 P:4)
Gloucester 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)
BONUS:
Full: Steve, Bam, Chris, Pooly & CJ
Score: SJE
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Sale 33 - 31 Northampton
Both sides at full strength or thereabouts, I'd favour the Sale front 5 at set piece and round the park, and maybe just the Saints back row with Pocock the difference. Bit more experience with Care the difference in the halfbacks, while the rest of the outside backs are very close, both Eastmond and Daly can be targeted but are excellent attacking players. With tactics this may be a different game, as both so well matched, but I'll go with the quality of the front 5 and halfbacks, and give this to Sale
Sale 29 - 28 Saints
Sale take scrum, just edge lineout too. Saints take breakdown, good battle in carrying. Prefer Sale HBs, though both good, two cracking backlines that have raw finishing power and exciting centre partnerships, I like both partnerships very much and can't separate them. Based on set piece, Sale win
Sale 30-26 Northampton
Sale come up tops in the scrum with Hartley lacking a bit of form and Mako/Lawes not the strongest compared to a strong front 5 from Sale. Little in the line out and around the park from two strong units. Not much in the backrows with Sale stonger at 8 and Saints 6, 7's pretty even, good contest. Sale step it up at halfback with both much stronger but Saints much better at 12. Could see Daly having issues with Fekitoa and this could be real danger for the Saints backline. Savea v Nadolo is worth the admission alone, little in the back 3.
Sale 29 - 27 Saints
Saints unusually lacking some physicality here and it costs them away from home. Both sides are strong and no obvious weaknesses but Sale's extra physicality provided by Picamoles, Fekatoa and Nadolo provide them the win.
Both sides at full strength or thereabouts, I'd favour the Sale front 5 at set piece and round the park, and maybe just the Saints back row with Pocock the difference. Bit more experience with Care the difference in the halfbacks, while the rest of the outside backs are very close, both Eastmond and Daly can be targeted but are excellent attacking players. With tactics this may be a different game, as both so well matched, but I'll go with the quality of the front 5 and halfbacks, and give this to Sale
Sale 29 - 28 Saints
Sale take scrum, just edge lineout too. Saints take breakdown, good battle in carrying. Prefer Sale HBs, though both good, two cracking backlines that have raw finishing power and exciting centre partnerships, I like both partnerships very much and can't separate them. Based on set piece, Sale win
Sale 30-26 Northampton
Sale come up tops in the scrum with Hartley lacking a bit of form and Mako/Lawes not the strongest compared to a strong front 5 from Sale. Little in the line out and around the park from two strong units. Not much in the backrows with Sale stonger at 8 and Saints 6, 7's pretty even, good contest. Sale step it up at halfback with both much stronger but Saints much better at 12. Could see Daly having issues with Fekitoa and this could be real danger for the Saints backline. Savea v Nadolo is worth the admission alone, little in the back 3.
Sale 29 - 27 Saints
Saints unusually lacking some physicality here and it costs them away from home. Both sides are strong and no obvious weaknesses but Sale's extra physicality provided by Picamoles, Fekatoa and Nadolo provide them the win.
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Hurricanes 34 - 24 London Irish
Ozzy gone with a RWC side is a big ask up against a side as good as Hurricanes. Canes will win this comfortably with the pack they have out, and the backs will score plenty of tries against some young Irish backs. As a RWC side, think the back row will be the main weakness, especially as I haven't seen much of Coetzee at 8. Backs look good though
Canes 30-24 Irish
Hurricanes - Irish
Canes edge scrum, just take lineout too. Also slight edge in the breakdown. Close at 10 but Canes better 9. Kerevi will make holes in defence, but AB centres and wingers - too much class. Decent World Cup London Irish side but up agaisnt too much.
Hurricanes 34-22 Irish
Bit of a hiding to nothing in the Irish pack against a strong Canes outfit. Canes stronger in the set piece and can see them controlling the breakdown, Coetzee at 8 is an odd one which could cost games in the AP. Tidy Irish halfback combo but they are a level down in form to their opposition and with good ball Canes could really get on top. 11-15 Canes much stronger and will come out routine winners. Tough ask for an Irish 2nd string.
Hurricanes 23 - 18 Irish
A lot of youth see's Hurricanes win this. Not sure that any of the youngest lot for Wasps fit into a AP side without standing out (Du Toit, Kerevi, Drummond, Gibson and Eldstadt included in this category of players who aren't quite at that level).
Ozzy gone with a RWC side is a big ask up against a side as good as Hurricanes. Canes will win this comfortably with the pack they have out, and the backs will score plenty of tries against some young Irish backs. As a RWC side, think the back row will be the main weakness, especially as I haven't seen much of Coetzee at 8. Backs look good though
Canes 30-24 Irish
Hurricanes - Irish
Canes edge scrum, just take lineout too. Also slight edge in the breakdown. Close at 10 but Canes better 9. Kerevi will make holes in defence, but AB centres and wingers - too much class. Decent World Cup London Irish side but up agaisnt too much.
Hurricanes 34-22 Irish
Bit of a hiding to nothing in the Irish pack against a strong Canes outfit. Canes stronger in the set piece and can see them controlling the breakdown, Coetzee at 8 is an odd one which could cost games in the AP. Tidy Irish halfback combo but they are a level down in form to their opposition and with good ball Canes could really get on top. 11-15 Canes much stronger and will come out routine winners. Tough ask for an Irish 2nd string.
Hurricanes 23 - 18 Irish
A lot of youth see's Hurricanes win this. Not sure that any of the youngest lot for Wasps fit into a AP side without standing out (Du Toit, Kerevi, Drummond, Gibson and Eldstadt included in this category of players who aren't quite at that level).
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Crusaders 29 - 26 Quins
Man for man, other than Woodcock I favour Crusaders (have assumed Romano out and Kruis in with bench short). Back row closer, but think Saders have a bit more dynamism. One each at halfback, think Quins stronger overall in the backs but Crotty and Nadolo dangerous. Tough one to call, but gone with the stronger pack
Saders 28-26 Quins
Crusaders 31 - 30 Harlequins
Tiny edge to Crusaders in scrum, Romano can't play for Quins, which gives lineout advantage to Saders. 2 ABs for Crusafers in backrow but love the look of Quins backrow, think it's close in breakdown but Quins dominate collisions there. Carter an advantage but the kicking games of Quins HBs can put them in right areas. Nadolo a beast but more footwork and guile for Quins backs, would be Quins win but for costly selection of ineligible player
Crusaders 27-24 Harlequins
Can see Crusaders getting on top in both set pieces with a stronger front 5. I like the make up of the Quins backrow with 6/8 allowing Hooper to go roaming, pretty even contest though. Not much in the 9's but Carter offers more than Myler and will do well off good set piece ball. Not much in the midfield battle but I prefer the Quins back 3 with Dagg suffering with form.
Man for man, other than Woodcock I favour Crusaders (have assumed Romano out and Kruis in with bench short). Back row closer, but think Saders have a bit more dynamism. One each at halfback, think Quins stronger overall in the backs but Crotty and Nadolo dangerous. Tough one to call, but gone with the stronger pack
Saders 28-26 Quins
Crusaders 31 - 30 Harlequins
Tiny edge to Crusaders in scrum, Romano can't play for Quins, which gives lineout advantage to Saders. 2 ABs for Crusafers in backrow but love the look of Quins backrow, think it's close in breakdown but Quins dominate collisions there. Carter an advantage but the kicking games of Quins HBs can put them in right areas. Nadolo a beast but more footwork and guile for Quins backs, would be Quins win but for costly selection of ineligible player
Crusaders 27-24 Harlequins
Can see Crusaders getting on top in both set pieces with a stronger front 5. I like the make up of the Quins backrow with 6/8 allowing Hooper to go roaming, pretty even contest though. Not much in the 9's but Carter offers more than Myler and will do well off good set piece ball. Not much in the midfield battle but I prefer the Quins back 3 with Dagg suffering with form.
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Waratahs 24 - 26 Gloucester
Gloucester have the advantage at scrum time, and think I'd just favour them as a pack at the breakdown. Glos always good in the backs, but without an ineligible Folau I think they'll be evens at best here. Very close game, Glos bench quality is the difference
Tahs 22-23 Glaws
Waratahs 27 - 26 Gloucester
Even in scrum, Gloucester take lineout. Tough fight at breakdown but Gloucester have more skilled players and edge this. Evens at HB, evens with different styles if centre. Close but maybe just Waratahs on wings. Folau can't play for Gloucester. This just hands match to Waratahs
Waratahs 23 -23 Gloucester
Tough to pick a winner here. Gloucester strong in dry but not convinced it's a side for wet conditions. A lot of hit and miss players in the Gloucester side.
Gloucester have the advantage at scrum time, and think I'd just favour them as a pack at the breakdown. Glos always good in the backs, but without an ineligible Folau I think they'll be evens at best here. Very close game, Glos bench quality is the difference
Tahs 22-23 Glaws
Waratahs 27 - 26 Gloucester
Even in scrum, Gloucester take lineout. Tough fight at breakdown but Gloucester have more skilled players and edge this. Evens at HB, evens with different styles if centre. Close but maybe just Waratahs on wings. Folau can't play for Gloucester. This just hands match to Waratahs
Waratahs 23 -23 Gloucester
Tough to pick a winner here. Gloucester strong in dry but not convinced it's a side for wet conditions. A lot of hit and miss players in the Gloucester side.
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