Aviva Premiership Round One
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Aviva Premiership Round One
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Harlequins v Wasps
Twickenham Stoop
Light Cloud, 12 Degrees, 13mph N Winds
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
16. Bryan Byrne 17. Gurthro Steenkamp 18. Kieran Brookes 19. Nick Easter 20. Tom Wood 21. Luke McGrath 22. Stuart Olding 23. Damian McKenzie
Tactics
Look to retain the ball in attack and build pressure. We will line up in channels and look to isolate slow defenders in the Wasps defence. Carry with support so as to allow the offload or a quick ruck. All about a quick tempo when we break the line and get go forward. This is when we will look to go wide and unleash our back line.
Myler to use his boot in our half either kicking to space or looking to use Huget's aerial prowess to regain possession under the high ball.
In defence operate an out to in system where we defend from the inside out looking to force the opposition towards the touch line. When we have a set defensive line we will look to win the collision if we have the personnel to do so (ie Kriel, Gorgodze etc) but if njot we will chop and look to get the first man onto the ball.
take all points on offer in the first half but play the game situation in the second half Bring on McKenzie as a 2nd pivot after about 50 and look to stretch the Wasps defence as it tires.
London Wasps
Manager: CJ
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16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Scott Spurling, 18. Tom West, 19. George Merrick , 20 Carl Fearns. , 21. Ben Spencer , 22. Charlie Hodgson, 23. Craig Gilroy
Tactics:
Looking to play attacking rugby in the good weather. Look to commit players to our attacking rucks to get quick ball, but only have a player or two at a time at defensive rucks looking to spoil and Barclay in particular looking for the turnover. Barclay to look to chase the ball, and we'll press hard and bend laws in the opposition 22 looking for the turnover/pen but be more cautious and disciplined in our half.
Slow ball will be carried by the pack in pods of three and mauled and crash-balled off 9 + 10 to drag in defenders and we will aim to speed it up with our breakdown approach. When there is speed and space, we will spin it wide, looking to keep it alive and attack in two waves, with the quick recycle or offload setting up the second wave which could either switch or continue in the same direction. When we attack, I'm looking to use Godwin and Pennell as extra playmakers and have FTH playing flat and attacking the line
In defence, blitz led by Moala, swept by Williams, with aggressive fringe defence.
Look to get the ball out quickly and use the set piece as a platform for attacking moves
Kick for territory into space not at their back 3, as running the high ball back is one of their strength, but obviously chase every kick
The distribution at 10-12 is not a strength for Quins, if we can pressurise them here with the backrow and Godwin, it will stifle them getting the ball wide. Have Moala alert for the offload in case they try to play Joseph in.
1) Go hard in their 22, disciplined in our half
2) 2 wave attack using the recycle/offload
3) Earn the right to go wide
4) Commit to attacking and just a few in defensive breakdowns
5) Target 10-12
Worcester Warriors v Northampton Saints
Sixways
Sunny Intervals, 12 Degrees, 12mph N Winds
Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd
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16. James Fish 17. Tom Smallbone 18.Henry Thomas 19.Jacques Potgeiter 20. Warren Whiteley 21. Alex Mitchell 22. Huw Jones 23. Jonah Placid
Tactics:
First game of the season and at home, we will look to play at a fast pace to give our speedy backline enough ball to cause problems.
Forwards: Bar Morgan all of our forwards have been with us throughout pre-season, Saints play alot of players who have had 1 week back if that so we will look to be a cohesive unit and use our Georgian props to anchor the scrum whilst Hooper looks to challenge alot of ball. We will look to carry for 2-3 phases and secure ball in the first instance before sending it out wide.
Breakdown: Smith and Taufua have been picked to get over the ball and slow down their breakdown, we will look to use 3 players to secure quick ball for us but will slow the game down if needed.
Half-Backs: Both experienced enough to control the game and put us in the right positions, Dickson will look to go for tempo from tap penalties but we will look to go for points when available.
Outside Backs: Route one for Allen who showed up well for Wales in his one game, alot of pace outside and strength in Goneva, we will look to drag their defence wide and target Daly's outside shoulder with players running for the offload. Goneva will look to target weak defence and use his raw power to get over the gainline.
Attack: Quick ball, fast paced using our backline with forwards hitting the angles, happy to slow it down but don't want to get involved in an arm wrestle, will look to target the cohesivness of the Saints pack who may have world cup hangovers.
Defence: Controlled by Payne who will marshall a blitz-banana defence, we will look to slow some of their ball down but mainly look to plug any gaps in defence initially, Dickson to sweep behind.
Bench: Alot of young, raw pace to come on and look to run hard against tired Saints players and make an impression.
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
Replacements:
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Mako Vunipola 18. Logi Molipola 19. Courtney Lawes 20. Sergio Parisse 21. Niko Matawulu 22. George Ford 23. Manu Tuilagi
Tactics
We will be looking to play a hard physical game and win the contact and gainline battle against the home side. We've selected a big, mobile front five and a pack that has big ball carriers throughout. Our aim is to outmuscle the home team, put ourselves on the front foot and target the set piece to provide attacking ball for our backline. Have an impact bench and will look to bring them on to up the tempo and finish the game very strongly.
Set Piece
We've picked an experienced front row, which is supported by a powerful 4-8 to really target the Worcester scrum and their young loosehead. We'll look to give Vunipola a platform to attack the Worcester no10. We are going to be looking for quick attacking ball off the top of lineouts for our backs to attack.
Gainline/Physical Battle
Our team has been picked to win the gainline battle and put Saints on the front foot and place the Worcester defence under pressure. We'll be looking for the likes of Launchbury, Manoa and BV to get us over the gainline and make the game a really physical bruising contest.
Breakdown
We feel we have the advantage in terms of ball carriers and winning the gainline battle, so will look to build on the forward momentum at the breakdown by securing quick ball for Simpson. Again will make this into a really physical contest, hitting the breakdown hard and targeting Smith to hamper his effectiveness.
Attack
We aim to get Daly in possession of the ball as often as possible and will use him as our main attacking threat in the backline when given quick front foot ball. With an open game expected it will play into Simpson's style and he'll look to snipe whenever there is a gap in the defence. Will use Dunbar and Cummins as ball carriers in the backs. Halfpenny to take points whenever they are on offer and build a lead. Base on the power of our pack and winning the collisions/gainline.
Defence
Rush defence, again looking to put in big tackles and stop Worcester getting any success on the gainline. We'll target the no10 with du Plessis and Manoa looking to hit him hard. Simpson to sweep behind.
Subs
Will look to win the game on the strength of our bench in the final twenty minutes, having spent large parts of the game wearing the home side down in a really physical contest. Each of our players is impact and should ensure we finish well.
Newcastle Falcons v Gloucester
Kingston Park
Thick Cloud, 10 Degrees, 15mph NNE Winds
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam
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16.Jamie George 17.Matt Stevens 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Dom Barrow 20. Curtis Browning 21.Dave Lewis 22. Owen Farrell 23. Jean De Villiers
Tactics
Set piece - Have assumed Figallo is out and Adeniran-Orule starts at tighthead. Look to get after the young prop with Mullan using his experience and know how to really put him under pressure, our hooker and tighthead to target LCD in the scrum so he can't help the youngster. Slater and Flip are a big scrummaging lock pair, and with the power coming through a big back row we'll look to really munch them in the scrum. Flip to call the lineout, play it safe in our own territory but look to get ball off the top further forward. Get Flip up at the front on defensive lineouts and challenge LCD to make his throws over him
Breakdown - Looking to carry tight with the big pack, put them under pressure by using pods of 3 to attack around the gainline with the big runners, instantly clearing out so Webb can get quick ball, and keeps Savea away. If Savea gets there, blow him away with the physicality of our back row and challenge the rest of their pack to make turnovers if they can. On their ball, look to slow it down with Clark heavily involved here, but keep our defensive line in tact primarily.
Kicking - Webb, Davies and Piutau to offer kicking options to help Black, kick in behind Naiyaravoro and we've got excellent chasers to cut off the easy pass to Dagg, force the big man to kick deep from his territory. On attacking ball, use grubbers and chips to slow their defensive line
Attack - Webb to run the attack like a French 9, keep the ball moving quickly and take snipes around the ruck if its on. Black to keep the ball moving, we've got a 9 and centre combo who will be familiar to each other from international camps, trust them to look after the ball, but don't be afraid to attack the line if they overcommit to Webb or the centres.
Centres to run lines off Webb, Piutau also able to do so but the wings to stay out wide and use their exceptional finishing
Defence - strong defence throughout the backs, we'll challenge them to break the line in one on one tackles. If May catches the ball, get up quickly and cut off the space, we know he has unreal pace
Bench - More power off the bench at the scrum to get after whoever they put out as a sub tighthead, George's lineout throwing gives us more freedom to attack off the top. Farrell and JDV to close out the game with their experience
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
NOTE FIGALLO INELIGIBLE, REPLACED BY ADRENIRAN-ORULE. BENCH ONE SHORT
1 Wood
2 Luke Cowan Dickie
3 Sebastian Adeniran-Orule
4 Roman taofufina
5 George Robson
6 Arno Botha
7 Ardie Savea
8 Wycliff Palu
9 Dan Robson
10 Danny Cipriani
11 naiyaralo
12 Ryan Crotty
13 Juan De Jongh
14 Johnny May
15 Israel Dagg
16 Rob Evans
17 Joe gray
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19 Elliot Stooke
20 Tom Croft
21 Justin Phillips
22 Johan Goosen
23 Charlie walker
Bath v Exeter Chiefs
Recreation Ground
Light Cloud, 12 Degrees, 12mph NNE Winds
Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
16. Jack Innard 17. Richard Barrington 18. Scott Wilson 19. Charlie Matthews 20. Liam Squire 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Sam Hill 23. Rhys Patchell
Overall: We are gonna be looking to play front foot rugby. Look to overwhelm Bath in the loose with big carries. High tempo offloading game looking to create space and break the defense. Attack the set piece. Try to get on top early and use the momentum.
Scrum: Use the set piece to get quick ball to restart our attack. Ben Tameifuma will look to dominate Auterac and interrupt the Exeter scrum. Beaumontf will look to attack off the quick ball he gets
Lineout: We will look to switch up the lineup with Kitch and Gaskell options in the lineout. Kitchener will run the line out. Look to get up into the air quickly and down for a quick maul.
Breakdown: Look to generate quick ball for our backs to take advantage of. Gill and Kolisi are adept at the breakdown. Only send numbers in if confident we can get the ball, otherwise look to set the defence and dare Exeter to beat us.
Defence: Run a blitz defence. Machenaud to drift behind expecting kicks.
Attack: Our half backs will control our rugby. Machenaud will set the tempo and play what he sees in front of him. Outside of him, LLF will play flat and use his creativity to bring in the back line and make plays. We have strong runners with Saili, Vorster, Wade and Amos. We will look to get the ball in their hands. Wade and Amos will look to attack when the high ball is aimed at them. Both will love a chance to run in an open field. Look to target Mike Haley
The pack will also be involved when we have the ball for a prolonged period. We have strong carriers who excel in the loose. Look to get the ball in the hands of Kitchoff, Big Ben and Kolisi in order to break the line and make yards. Throughout them team look to Keep the ball alive and look for offloads. Look to play with a high tempo and get the ball moving across the back line. Exploit the holes we create and look to tire out Exeter which can help nullify their offensive threats.
Kicking: LLF will be our chosen place kicker. We will chuck in the occasional grabber to chase. Williams, Machenaud and LLF have the boots necessary to try and put us in a good position territorially if need be.
Substitutes: Keep a high tempo.
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Fluxy
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16. Jack Yeandle 17. Jefferson Poirot 18. Jake Cooper-Wooley 19. Paul O'Connell 20. CJ Stander 21. Chris Cook 22. Alex Losowski 23. James O'Connor
General Game plan
Fast paced game based around high intensity in defence, offloading, and dynamic carrying and rucking.
Our aim is to control possession and go through the phases and impose our game plan, which is to play through the middle of the Bath pack tying in forwards implementing our strong and dynamic carriers, then look to capitalise on the over lap with two play makers in the back line capable of spotting opportunities.
Scrum - Control the set piece and use it to restart our game plan and create point of attacks. We will always look for parity to obtain clean possession. Big front five will hold our own ball, and a full eight drive on in defence.
Line out - Kruger to lead the line-out and get quick ball from our dynamic jumpers, with four athletic components and dynamic lifters. This will allow us to secure clean ball. Look to drive possession with full line out numbers in their 22. In the middle of the field, look to cut numbers and use Fritz & Shields to run at the Bath midfield.
Breakdown - Look for strong carries from our pack, tying in the opposition forwards. We’ll be looking to keep the ball alive and look for the offload when on. Our back five will target the breakdown and look to blow through the ruck and past the ball. Clean ball will be generated either by blowing through the ruck and past the ball and a long presentation of the ball to keep it away from opposition defenders. We’ll look to win the collision with big our physical pack and dominate the opposition pack in the contact.
Defence - Dominate the collisions to prevent Bath creating go forward. Utilising an 'up & out' defence, where the line comes up flat and then pushes the attackers towards the touch line. Look to chop attackers down early. If the competition is on to compete for the ball we get Armitage et al on the ball to turnover possession. If the support is quick for the attackers look to maintain the integrity of the defensive line and get numbers out.
Get up off the line and cut down the Bath time on the ball. Win the battle of the gain line and cut them down before it.
Backs – Heads up rugby from the halfbacks. They will keep the tight defence honest with inside balls and snipes. Then look to release the outside backs into the space generated by forwards tying the bath defence. Classy running options and two of the most prolific finishers in both the Pro 12 and in Super Rugby.
Build a Score - Evans to convert any penalty within their ten metre to keep scoreboard ticking. Unless ten metres from the line then we kick for the line-out and set the maul.
Impact Bench - Use the bench late on to shift momentum and up the energy levels late on against a tired Bath defence.
Saracens v Sale Sharks
Allianz Park
Light Cloud, 11 Degrees, 15mph N Winds
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
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16. Jack Walker 17. Xavier Chocci 18. Paul Hill 19. Will Skelton 20. James Haskell 21. Sam Harrison 22. Miles Benjamin 23. Jack Sharp
Tactics:
TARGET SCRUM - Cole didn't have the best of world cups but he's a class up on Harrison. We'll look to target the inexperienced opposition HK/LH and get between them from the off.
TARGET BREAKDOWN & LUATUA OUT OF POSITION - With Sale's scrum possibly struggling, we'll look to target Luatua's control at the base. Ioane and Brussow will be straight on him looking. Look to control the breakdown with strong clearing out out options in the pack and numerous breakdown options (Brussow, Hughes, Cole, Waller).
BIG CARRYING TO TIE IN SALE DEFENCE - Numerous "go to men" to get us over the gain line. Ioane, Hughes, Skelton, Tuip, Waller offering big option. If you could criticise the Sale pack it would be that they lack ball carriers in the pack, this could be an issue as the game goes on.
TARGET EASTMOND AND BACK 3 DEFENCE/LACK OF KICKING - Look to get big carriers down Eastmonds channel and runners from that (Ashton tracking off Hughes etc). Taylor to play whats on and kick in behind Sale wingers causing them to turn and using a high line to put pressure on their lack of kicking games.
General - We'll be playing a structured physical game from the off, look to get at the opposition and get into the rucks/maul's and drive through. We'll look to tie the opposition in and then get at their backline, more so in their half. Look to keep it tight in the forward pack and grind through work. Looking to bring in the opposition pack and then use big carrying options to punch holes through their defence.
Scrum - Look to get a platform from the off with a strong scrummaging unit. Strong front 5 with big locks will look for the big push once the ball is in and drive the opposition back. Our TH and Hooker will look to target LH and try to get between him and Hooker to allow LH to work on TH If no weakness seen will use as restart.
Line out – Look for safe ball with world class line out options and experience. Will allow SH good clean ball and have big carriers running off the 9 at angles. Look to target opposition throw and put pressure on the hooker.
Defence - Blitz defence with high intensity and big hits, looking to drive past the ball player if the ball hits the deck. physical pack that can look to get at the collision and breakdown allowing a chance to slow down/steal ball. Put pressure on SH's basics and force him into errors. Scrum half to sweep behind the defensive line.
Attack - Keep things simple in our own half then look to unleash backs in opp 22 territory. Scrum half to dictate play from the breakdown and runners on his shoulder. Huge carrying pack to get us over the gain line after front 5 set a platform. Midfield to run angles off the 9/10, allowing us gain line breakers. Look to keep opposition guessing with clever lines through midfield. Wingers will look to track the midfield combo.
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
Subs:
16. Nicky Smith 17. David Paice 18. Martin Moore 19. Matt Garvey 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Danny Care 22. JJ Hanrahan 23. Nemani Nadolo
Key Points
Attack: Play an expansive, high intensity offloading game. Numerous playmakers across the back line comfortable at first receiver and a dynamic, skill full pack allows for a very fluid mobile attack. Look to use a rugby league diamond shape with runners on the gain line and out the back door to force the opposition into making defensive decisions, creating space for our runners.
Breakdown: Mobile pack and physical back line to clear out rucks and ensure quick ball. We will look to get over the gain line off all carries to make it easier to do so. Defensively Todd will look to get in and slow ball down but primarily look to fan out and strengthen the line limiting Taylors options.
Defence: Straight line blitz defence focused on winning the gain line collisions and driving the ball carrier back. Line speed is crucial. Todd will look to defend on Eastmond's shoulder specifically looking to stop offloads and get over the ball at the breakdown. De Klerk will sweep behind the line to cover chips and grubbers. Emphasis on covering the background though with both wingers dropping deep to cut off the green grass available to kick into.
Scrum: Strong technical front row backed up by a powerful second row will look to get the drive on and build a strong platform to attack from. An area we will look to target if winning.
Lineout: Five mobile, athletic jumpers allows us to genuinely mix it up on attacking ball. Primarily looking to play off the top and get the backs on the ball in space. Defensively look to get up in the air and challenge on opposition ball looking to make it as messy as possible.
London Irish v Leicester Tigers
Madejski Stadium
Sunny Intervals, 12 Degrees, 14mph N Winds
London Irish
Manager: Ozzy3213
16. Tom Youngs 17. Thomas du Toit 18. Ben Alexander 19. Romain Millo-Chluski 20. Rynhardt Elstadt 21. Mitchell Drummond 22. Brad Barritt 23. Tim Nanai-Williams
Basic Game Plan
In good conditions we will be looking to play a possession based, fast offloading game, keeping the ball alive moving the Tigers defence around. When deep in our half we won't take chances with offloading, but will make ground carrying close to the ruck and recycling quickly, or using the boots of Cruden, Slade and Armitage to take us up the field.
In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence. Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle. Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us. Youngs will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.
Specifics
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
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16. Christopher Tolofua 17. Max Lahiff 18. Census Johnston 19. Kearney Myall 20. Tom Johnson 21. Kahn Fotuali'i 22. Brock James 23. Cheslin Kolbe
Tactics:
We will look to play high tempo, high intensity rugby. We have, throughout our XV, big line breakers to make the hard yards and tie up defenders creating space in wider channels for Burns to exploit.
- Big focus to attack at all scrums - Big powerful props to look to really get the shove on, and we will use Mujati and Elliot to really target Moon and Coltman.
- Attack at all lineouts. Use Jones or Smith at the front and Mafi off the top as our three key options.
Shortened lineouts with Waldrom in midfield as crash or decoy option.
Target Coltman (and Tom Youngs) on all Irish throws with Mafi and Jones to always to look to steal and really give opposition problems.
- Gigantic XV made up of massive line-breakers, used in the tight to tire down the opposition defence.
The likes of Waldrom, Smith, Mafi and Elliot plus Jones, Mujati, Banahan and Ranger to be used to get us over the gainline.
- Look to win battle at the breakdown - Smith and Burger to really look to get into the breakdown and give the opposition problems.
- Young to look to snipe around the fringes and keep us going forwards all the time.
- In attacking play, we will play with the option of 2 first receivers in Burns and Twelverees.
We want to control the game, mixing up the point of our attack consistently.
- In attacking play, we want our dangeorus on the back three as much as possible. Use the form of Brown as much as possibe.
- We will look to employ a blitz defence, focusing on a quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline, and look to win the collisions in defence. Young to sweep behind with an eye on short kicks.
Burns to kick all penalties.
Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Tuesday
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday
Harlequins v Wasps
Twickenham Stoop
Light Cloud, 12 Degrees, 13mph N Winds
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
01. Benn Robinson | 09. Karl Dickson |
02. Rob Buchanan | 10. Steven Myler (k) |
03. John Afoa | |
04. Jim Hamilton | 11. Teddy Thomas |
05. George Kruis | 12. Luther Burrell |
06. Jaco Kriel | 13. Jonathan Joseph |
07. Jack Clifford | 14. Yoann Huget |
08. Mamuka Gorgodze (c) | 15. Jack Nowell |
Tactics
Look to retain the ball in attack and build pressure. We will line up in channels and look to isolate slow defenders in the Wasps defence. Carry with support so as to allow the offload or a quick ruck. All about a quick tempo when we break the line and get go forward. This is when we will look to go wide and unleash our back line.
Myler to use his boot in our half either kicking to space or looking to use Huget's aerial prowess to regain possession under the high ball.
In defence operate an out to in system where we defend from the inside out looking to force the opposition towards the touch line. When we have a set defensive line we will look to win the collision if we have the personnel to do so (ie Kriel, Gorgodze etc) but if njot we will chop and look to get the first man onto the ball.
take all points on offer in the first half but play the game situation in the second half Bring on McKenzie as a 2nd pivot after about 50 and look to stretch the Wasps defence as it tires.
London Wasps
Manager: CJ
01. Nathan Catt | 09. Rhodri Williams |
02. Cory Flynn | 10. Francois Trinh-Duc |
03. James Johnston | |
04. George Skivington | 11. Frank Halai |
05. Patrice Albacette | 12. Kyle Godwin |
06. Alexandre Lapandary | 13. George Moala |
07. John Barclay (c) | 14. Manuel Montero |
08. Tom Guest | 15. Chris Pennell |
16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Scott Spurling, 18. Tom West, 19. George Merrick , 20 Carl Fearns. , 21. Ben Spencer , 22. Charlie Hodgson, 23. Craig Gilroy
Tactics:
Looking to play attacking rugby in the good weather. Look to commit players to our attacking rucks to get quick ball, but only have a player or two at a time at defensive rucks looking to spoil and Barclay in particular looking for the turnover. Barclay to look to chase the ball, and we'll press hard and bend laws in the opposition 22 looking for the turnover/pen but be more cautious and disciplined in our half.
Slow ball will be carried by the pack in pods of three and mauled and crash-balled off 9 + 10 to drag in defenders and we will aim to speed it up with our breakdown approach. When there is speed and space, we will spin it wide, looking to keep it alive and attack in two waves, with the quick recycle or offload setting up the second wave which could either switch or continue in the same direction. When we attack, I'm looking to use Godwin and Pennell as extra playmakers and have FTH playing flat and attacking the line
In defence, blitz led by Moala, swept by Williams, with aggressive fringe defence.
Look to get the ball out quickly and use the set piece as a platform for attacking moves
Kick for territory into space not at their back 3, as running the high ball back is one of their strength, but obviously chase every kick
The distribution at 10-12 is not a strength for Quins, if we can pressurise them here with the backrow and Godwin, it will stifle them getting the ball wide. Have Moala alert for the offload in case they try to play Joseph in.
1) Go hard in their 22, disciplined in our half
2) 2 wave attack using the recycle/offload
3) Earn the right to go wide
4) Commit to attacking and just a few in defensive breakdowns
5) Target 10-12
Worcester Warriors v Northampton Saints
Sixways
Sunny Intervals, 12 Degrees, 12mph N Winds
Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd
01. Val Ruskin | 09. Lee Dickson (c) |
02. Ross Batty | 10. Jules Plisson |
03. Davit Kubriashvilli | |
04. Stuart Hooper | 11. Venriki Goneva |
05. Tom Savage | 12. Cory Allen |
06. Jordan Taufua | 13. Jarrad Payne |
07. George Smith | 14. Adam Thompstone |
08. Ben Morgan | 15. Mathew Tait |
16. James Fish 17. Tom Smallbone 18.Henry Thomas 19.Jacques Potgeiter 20. Warren Whiteley 21. Alex Mitchell 22. Huw Jones 23. Jonah Placid
Tactics:
First game of the season and at home, we will look to play at a fast pace to give our speedy backline enough ball to cause problems.
Forwards: Bar Morgan all of our forwards have been with us throughout pre-season, Saints play alot of players who have had 1 week back if that so we will look to be a cohesive unit and use our Georgian props to anchor the scrum whilst Hooper looks to challenge alot of ball. We will look to carry for 2-3 phases and secure ball in the first instance before sending it out wide.
Breakdown: Smith and Taufua have been picked to get over the ball and slow down their breakdown, we will look to use 3 players to secure quick ball for us but will slow the game down if needed.
Half-Backs: Both experienced enough to control the game and put us in the right positions, Dickson will look to go for tempo from tap penalties but we will look to go for points when available.
Outside Backs: Route one for Allen who showed up well for Wales in his one game, alot of pace outside and strength in Goneva, we will look to drag their defence wide and target Daly's outside shoulder with players running for the offload. Goneva will look to target weak defence and use his raw power to get over the gainline.
Attack: Quick ball, fast paced using our backline with forwards hitting the angles, happy to slow it down but don't want to get involved in an arm wrestle, will look to target the cohesivness of the Saints pack who may have world cup hangovers.
Defence: Controlled by Payne who will marshall a blitz-banana defence, we will look to slow some of their ball down but mainly look to plug any gaps in defence initially, Dickson to sweep behind.
Bench: Alot of young, raw pace to come on and look to run hard against tired Saints players and make an impression.
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
01. Thomas Domingo | 09. Joe Simpson |
02. Dylan Hartley(c) | 10. Lima Sopoaga |
03. Martin Castrogiovanni | |
04. Joe Launchbury | 11. Ben Foden |
05. Michael Paterson | 12. Alex Dunbar |
06. Samu Manoa | 13. Elliot Daly |
07. Jacques du Plessis | 14. Nick Cummins |
08. Billy Vunipola | 15. Leigh Halfpenny(k) |
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Mako Vunipola 18. Logi Molipola 19. Courtney Lawes 20. Sergio Parisse 21. Niko Matawulu 22. George Ford 23. Manu Tuilagi
Tactics
We will be looking to play a hard physical game and win the contact and gainline battle against the home side. We've selected a big, mobile front five and a pack that has big ball carriers throughout. Our aim is to outmuscle the home team, put ourselves on the front foot and target the set piece to provide attacking ball for our backline. Have an impact bench and will look to bring them on to up the tempo and finish the game very strongly.
Set Piece
We've picked an experienced front row, which is supported by a powerful 4-8 to really target the Worcester scrum and their young loosehead. We'll look to give Vunipola a platform to attack the Worcester no10. We are going to be looking for quick attacking ball off the top of lineouts for our backs to attack.
Gainline/Physical Battle
Our team has been picked to win the gainline battle and put Saints on the front foot and place the Worcester defence under pressure. We'll be looking for the likes of Launchbury, Manoa and BV to get us over the gainline and make the game a really physical bruising contest.
Breakdown
We feel we have the advantage in terms of ball carriers and winning the gainline battle, so will look to build on the forward momentum at the breakdown by securing quick ball for Simpson. Again will make this into a really physical contest, hitting the breakdown hard and targeting Smith to hamper his effectiveness.
Attack
We aim to get Daly in possession of the ball as often as possible and will use him as our main attacking threat in the backline when given quick front foot ball. With an open game expected it will play into Simpson's style and he'll look to snipe whenever there is a gap in the defence. Will use Dunbar and Cummins as ball carriers in the backs. Halfpenny to take points whenever they are on offer and build a lead. Base on the power of our pack and winning the collisions/gainline.
Defence
Rush defence, again looking to put in big tackles and stop Worcester getting any success on the gainline. We'll target the no10 with du Plessis and Manoa looking to hit him hard. Simpson to sweep behind.
Subs
Will look to win the game on the strength of our bench in the final twenty minutes, having spent large parts of the game wearing the home side down in a really physical contest. Each of our players is impact and should ensure we finish well.
Newcastle Falcons v Gloucester
Kingston Park
Thick Cloud, 10 Degrees, 15mph NNE Winds
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam
01. Matt Mullan | 09. Rhys Webb |
02. George McGuigan | 10. Otere Blackl (k) |
03. Nepo Laulala | |
04. Ed Slater (c) | 11. Charlie Sharples |
05. Flip Van Der Merwe | 12. Scott Williams |
06. Jack O'Donaghue | 13. Jonathan Davies |
07. Callum Clark | 14. David Strettle |
08. David Ewers | 15. Charles Piutau |
16.Jamie George 17.Matt Stevens 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Dom Barrow 20. Curtis Browning 21.Dave Lewis 22. Owen Farrell 23. Jean De Villiers
Tactics
Set piece - Have assumed Figallo is out and Adeniran-Orule starts at tighthead. Look to get after the young prop with Mullan using his experience and know how to really put him under pressure, our hooker and tighthead to target LCD in the scrum so he can't help the youngster. Slater and Flip are a big scrummaging lock pair, and with the power coming through a big back row we'll look to really munch them in the scrum. Flip to call the lineout, play it safe in our own territory but look to get ball off the top further forward. Get Flip up at the front on defensive lineouts and challenge LCD to make his throws over him
Breakdown - Looking to carry tight with the big pack, put them under pressure by using pods of 3 to attack around the gainline with the big runners, instantly clearing out so Webb can get quick ball, and keeps Savea away. If Savea gets there, blow him away with the physicality of our back row and challenge the rest of their pack to make turnovers if they can. On their ball, look to slow it down with Clark heavily involved here, but keep our defensive line in tact primarily.
Kicking - Webb, Davies and Piutau to offer kicking options to help Black, kick in behind Naiyaravoro and we've got excellent chasers to cut off the easy pass to Dagg, force the big man to kick deep from his territory. On attacking ball, use grubbers and chips to slow their defensive line
Attack - Webb to run the attack like a French 9, keep the ball moving quickly and take snipes around the ruck if its on. Black to keep the ball moving, we've got a 9 and centre combo who will be familiar to each other from international camps, trust them to look after the ball, but don't be afraid to attack the line if they overcommit to Webb or the centres.
Centres to run lines off Webb, Piutau also able to do so but the wings to stay out wide and use their exceptional finishing
Defence - strong defence throughout the backs, we'll challenge them to break the line in one on one tackles. If May catches the ball, get up quickly and cut off the space, we know he has unreal pace
Bench - More power off the bench at the scrum to get after whoever they put out as a sub tighthead, George's lineout throwing gives us more freedom to attack off the top. Farrell and JDV to close out the game with their experience
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
NOTE FIGALLO INELIGIBLE, REPLACED BY ADRENIRAN-ORULE. BENCH ONE SHORT
1 Wood
2 Luke Cowan Dickie
3 Sebastian Adeniran-Orule
4 Roman taofufina
5 George Robson
6 Arno Botha
7 Ardie Savea
8 Wycliff Palu
9 Dan Robson
10 Danny Cipriani
11 naiyaralo
12 Ryan Crotty
13 Juan De Jongh
14 Johnny May
15 Israel Dagg
16 Rob Evans
17 Joe gray
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19 Elliot Stooke
20 Tom Croft
21 Justin Phillips
22 Johan Goosen
23 Charlie walker
Bath v Exeter Chiefs
Recreation Ground
Light Cloud, 12 Degrees, 12mph NNE Winds
Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Steven Kitchoff | 09. Maxime Machenaud |
02. Mikey Haywood | 10. Christian Lealifano |
03. Ben Tameifuma | |
04. Graham Kitchener | 11. Hallam Amos |
05. James Gaskell | 12. Harold Vorster |
06. Siya Kolisi | 13. Francis Saili |
07. Liam Gill | 14. Christian Wade |
08. Josh Beaumont | 15. Liam Williams |
Overall: We are gonna be looking to play front foot rugby. Look to overwhelm Bath in the loose with big carries. High tempo offloading game looking to create space and break the defense. Attack the set piece. Try to get on top early and use the momentum.
Scrum: Use the set piece to get quick ball to restart our attack. Ben Tameifuma will look to dominate Auterac and interrupt the Exeter scrum. Beaumontf will look to attack off the quick ball he gets
Lineout: We will look to switch up the lineup with Kitch and Gaskell options in the lineout. Kitchener will run the line out. Look to get up into the air quickly and down for a quick maul.
Breakdown: Look to generate quick ball for our backs to take advantage of. Gill and Kolisi are adept at the breakdown. Only send numbers in if confident we can get the ball, otherwise look to set the defence and dare Exeter to beat us.
Defence: Run a blitz defence. Machenaud to drift behind expecting kicks.
Attack: Our half backs will control our rugby. Machenaud will set the tempo and play what he sees in front of him. Outside of him, LLF will play flat and use his creativity to bring in the back line and make plays. We have strong runners with Saili, Vorster, Wade and Amos. We will look to get the ball in their hands. Wade and Amos will look to attack when the high ball is aimed at them. Both will love a chance to run in an open field. Look to target Mike Haley
The pack will also be involved when we have the ball for a prolonged period. We have strong carriers who excel in the loose. Look to get the ball in the hands of Kitchoff, Big Ben and Kolisi in order to break the line and make yards. Throughout them team look to Keep the ball alive and look for offloads. Look to play with a high tempo and get the ball moving across the back line. Exploit the holes we create and look to tire out Exeter which can help nullify their offensive threats.
Kicking: LLF will be our chosen place kicker. We will chuck in the occasional grabber to chase. Williams, Machenaud and LLF have the boots necessary to try and put us in a good position territorially if need be.
Substitutes: Keep a high tempo.
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Fluxy
01. Nic Auterac | 09. Nic White |
02. Rob Webber | 10. Nick Evans (k) |
03. Vincent Koch | |
04. James Horwill (c) | 11. Andrew Trimble |
05. Juandre Kruger | 12. Toby Flood |
06. Brad Shields | 13. Eamonn Sheridan |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Cory Jane |
08. Fritz Lee | 15. Mike Haley |
16. Jack Yeandle 17. Jefferson Poirot 18. Jake Cooper-Wooley 19. Paul O'Connell 20. CJ Stander 21. Chris Cook 22. Alex Losowski 23. James O'Connor
General Game plan
Fast paced game based around high intensity in defence, offloading, and dynamic carrying and rucking.
Our aim is to control possession and go through the phases and impose our game plan, which is to play through the middle of the Bath pack tying in forwards implementing our strong and dynamic carriers, then look to capitalise on the over lap with two play makers in the back line capable of spotting opportunities.
Scrum - Control the set piece and use it to restart our game plan and create point of attacks. We will always look for parity to obtain clean possession. Big front five will hold our own ball, and a full eight drive on in defence.
Line out - Kruger to lead the line-out and get quick ball from our dynamic jumpers, with four athletic components and dynamic lifters. This will allow us to secure clean ball. Look to drive possession with full line out numbers in their 22. In the middle of the field, look to cut numbers and use Fritz & Shields to run at the Bath midfield.
Breakdown - Look for strong carries from our pack, tying in the opposition forwards. We’ll be looking to keep the ball alive and look for the offload when on. Our back five will target the breakdown and look to blow through the ruck and past the ball. Clean ball will be generated either by blowing through the ruck and past the ball and a long presentation of the ball to keep it away from opposition defenders. We’ll look to win the collision with big our physical pack and dominate the opposition pack in the contact.
Defence - Dominate the collisions to prevent Bath creating go forward. Utilising an 'up & out' defence, where the line comes up flat and then pushes the attackers towards the touch line. Look to chop attackers down early. If the competition is on to compete for the ball we get Armitage et al on the ball to turnover possession. If the support is quick for the attackers look to maintain the integrity of the defensive line and get numbers out.
Get up off the line and cut down the Bath time on the ball. Win the battle of the gain line and cut them down before it.
Backs – Heads up rugby from the halfbacks. They will keep the tight defence honest with inside balls and snipes. Then look to release the outside backs into the space generated by forwards tying the bath defence. Classy running options and two of the most prolific finishers in both the Pro 12 and in Super Rugby.
Build a Score - Evans to convert any penalty within their ten metre to keep scoreboard ticking. Unless ten metres from the line then we kick for the line-out and set the maul.
Impact Bench - Use the bench late on to shift momentum and up the energy levels late on against a tired Bath defence.
Saracens v Sale Sharks
Allianz Park
Light Cloud, 11 Degrees, 15mph N Winds
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
01. Alex Waller | 09. Brad Weber |
02. Motu Matu'u | 10. Tom Taylor |
03. Dan Cole | |
04. Patrick Tuipultou | 11. Hosea Gear |
05. Geoff Parling(c) | 12. Maxime Mermoz |
06. Akira Ioane | 13. Henry Trinder |
07. Heinrich Brussow | 14. Chris Ashton |
08. Nathan Hughes | 15. Simon Hammersely |
16. Jack Walker 17. Xavier Chocci 18. Paul Hill 19. Will Skelton 20. James Haskell 21. Sam Harrison 22. Miles Benjamin 23. Jack Sharp
Tactics:
TARGET SCRUM - Cole didn't have the best of world cups but he's a class up on Harrison. We'll look to target the inexperienced opposition HK/LH and get between them from the off.
TARGET BREAKDOWN & LUATUA OUT OF POSITION - With Sale's scrum possibly struggling, we'll look to target Luatua's control at the base. Ioane and Brussow will be straight on him looking. Look to control the breakdown with strong clearing out out options in the pack and numerous breakdown options (Brussow, Hughes, Cole, Waller).
BIG CARRYING TO TIE IN SALE DEFENCE - Numerous "go to men" to get us over the gain line. Ioane, Hughes, Skelton, Tuip, Waller offering big option. If you could criticise the Sale pack it would be that they lack ball carriers in the pack, this could be an issue as the game goes on.
TARGET EASTMOND AND BACK 3 DEFENCE/LACK OF KICKING - Look to get big carriers down Eastmonds channel and runners from that (Ashton tracking off Hughes etc). Taylor to play whats on and kick in behind Sale wingers causing them to turn and using a high line to put pressure on their lack of kicking games.
General - We'll be playing a structured physical game from the off, look to get at the opposition and get into the rucks/maul's and drive through. We'll look to tie the opposition in and then get at their backline, more so in their half. Look to keep it tight in the forward pack and grind through work. Looking to bring in the opposition pack and then use big carrying options to punch holes through their defence.
Scrum - Look to get a platform from the off with a strong scrummaging unit. Strong front 5 with big locks will look for the big push once the ball is in and drive the opposition back. Our TH and Hooker will look to target LH and try to get between him and Hooker to allow LH to work on TH If no weakness seen will use as restart.
Line out – Look for safe ball with world class line out options and experience. Will allow SH good clean ball and have big carriers running off the 9 at angles. Look to target opposition throw and put pressure on the hooker.
Defence - Blitz defence with high intensity and big hits, looking to drive past the ball player if the ball hits the deck. physical pack that can look to get at the collision and breakdown allowing a chance to slow down/steal ball. Put pressure on SH's basics and force him into errors. Scrum half to sweep behind the defensive line.
Attack - Keep things simple in our own half then look to unleash backs in opp 22 territory. Scrum half to dictate play from the breakdown and runners on his shoulder. Huge carrying pack to get us over the gain line after front 5 set a platform. Midfield to run angles off the 9/10, allowing us gain line breakers. Look to keep opposition guessing with clever lines through midfield. Wingers will look to track the midfield combo.
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
01. Ross Harrison | 09. Faf De Klerk |
02. Tommy Taylor | 10. Francois Steyn |
03. Davit Zirakishvilli | |
04. Dave Attwood | 11. Semeasa Rokoduguni |
05. Sam Carter | 12. Kyle Eastmond |
06. Maro Itoje | 13. George Pisi |
07. Matt Todd | 14. Josua Tuisova |
08. Steven Luatua | 15. Nick Abendanon |
16. Nicky Smith 17. David Paice 18. Martin Moore 19. Matt Garvey 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Danny Care 22. JJ Hanrahan 23. Nemani Nadolo
Key Points
- Defensively keep space to a minimum. Wingers to drop deep and cover the backfield with Bendy. Mostly stay out of the ruck and strengthen the line. Look to force Taylor on the back foot and put him under pressure. Todd to defend the 12 channel with Eastmond.
- Attack the lineout. Both the Sarries hooker and lineout leader have been away on world cup duty and have had no time together.
- Use the freshness and greater mobility of our pack to get around the park. Key Sarries front 5 players, Cole & Parling, are already looking jaded after full participation in Englands WC.
- Strong impact bench with the likes of Moore, Garvey, Kvesic, Care & Nadolo allowing us to change the game plan up and increase the tempo further.
- Force Trinder to make decisions on defence. He has less then 30 mins rugby to his name in the last year and will have to deal with runners on the gain line and out the back door.
Attack: Play an expansive, high intensity offloading game. Numerous playmakers across the back line comfortable at first receiver and a dynamic, skill full pack allows for a very fluid mobile attack. Look to use a rugby league diamond shape with runners on the gain line and out the back door to force the opposition into making defensive decisions, creating space for our runners.
Breakdown: Mobile pack and physical back line to clear out rucks and ensure quick ball. We will look to get over the gain line off all carries to make it easier to do so. Defensively Todd will look to get in and slow ball down but primarily look to fan out and strengthen the line limiting Taylors options.
Defence: Straight line blitz defence focused on winning the gain line collisions and driving the ball carrier back. Line speed is crucial. Todd will look to defend on Eastmond's shoulder specifically looking to stop offloads and get over the ball at the breakdown. De Klerk will sweep behind the line to cover chips and grubbers. Emphasis on covering the background though with both wingers dropping deep to cut off the green grass available to kick into.
Scrum: Strong technical front row backed up by a powerful second row will look to get the drive on and build a strong platform to attack from. An area we will look to target if winning.
Lineout: Five mobile, athletic jumpers allows us to genuinely mix it up on attacking ball. Primarily looking to play off the top and get the backs on the ball in space. Defensively look to get up in the air and challenge on opposition ball looking to make it as messy as possible.
London Irish v Leicester Tigers
Madejski Stadium
Sunny Intervals, 12 Degrees, 14mph N Winds
London Irish
Manager: Ozzy3213
01. Ben Moon | 09. Ben Youngs |
02. Liam Coltman | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. David Wilson | |
04. Matt Symons (c) | 11. Marland Yarde |
05. James Broadhurst | 12. Samu Kerevi |
06. Sebastien Vahaamahina | 13. Henry Slade |
07. Marcell Coetzee | 14. Anthony Watson |
08. Charlie Beckett | 15. Delon Armitage |
Basic Game Plan
In good conditions we will be looking to play a possession based, fast offloading game, keeping the ball alive moving the Tigers defence around. When deep in our half we won't take chances with offloading, but will make ground carrying close to the ruck and recycling quickly, or using the boots of Cruden, Slade and Armitage to take us up the field.
In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence. Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle. Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us. Youngs will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.
Specifics
- Lineout. Symons will call, as he does for the Chiefs in Super Rugby. In decent conditions we will mix it up on our ball, utilising Symons, Broadhurst and Vermeulen as receivers, whilst also at times shortening the line and using our back row forwards as crash ball options off first phase. Defensively we will look to compete for the ball and disrupt wherever possible, making any ball secured by Tigers as scrappy as we can.
- Scrum. Hit channel one ball and get it out the back and into open play quickly, looking to maximise the space available with the opposition forwards packed down. On there ball, 8 man shove and look to drive them off as their hooker lifts his foot to hook the ball. Wilson to stay tight and straight. Flanker on that side to stay bound and keep Wilson straight.
- Breakdown. When we carry into contact, if we are taken to ground, we will flood the breakdown. In defence, if we have made a passive tackle and the carrier has momentum we will not overcommit, but will maintain a strong defensive line. If we win the collision and knock the carrier back we will look to get the second man in hard over the ball to turn it over. Key for us is being selective.
- Attacking Play. We will be looking to play a Super Rugby type offloading game, with the ball shifted on to the support runner just prior to the point of the tackle with the defender already committed. We want to keep the ball alive as much as possible. We will look to get big carriers down the 12 channel and use Watson and Yarde in particular trying to isolate front 5 forwards in the defensive line and use their pace, power and footwork to go past them and get us on the front foot. If the ball is slow and Tigers are blitzing we will also utilise the pick and go, with the aim of keeping the blitz honest and forcing them slowly onto the back foot before going wider out. Youngs to also look to snipe around the fringes and keep us going forwards all the time.
- Tactical Kicking. If we kick, we will look to kick deep for the corners and get the Tigers back three on the turn, with a strong kick chase to isolate them.
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Micky Young |
02. Hika Ellliot | 10. Freddie Burns (K) |
03. Brian Mujati | |
04. Steve Mafi | 11. Matt Banahan |
05. Luke Jones | 12. Billy Twelvetrees |
06. Juan Smith (c) | 13. Tamati Ellison |
07. Jacques Burger | 14. Rene Ranger |
08. Thomas Waldrom | 15. Mike Brown |
16. Christopher Tolofua 17. Max Lahiff 18. Census Johnston 19. Kearney Myall 20. Tom Johnson 21. Kahn Fotuali'i 22. Brock James 23. Cheslin Kolbe
Tactics:
We will look to play high tempo, high intensity rugby. We have, throughout our XV, big line breakers to make the hard yards and tie up defenders creating space in wider channels for Burns to exploit.
- Big focus to attack at all scrums - Big powerful props to look to really get the shove on, and we will use Mujati and Elliot to really target Moon and Coltman.
- Attack at all lineouts. Use Jones or Smith at the front and Mafi off the top as our three key options.
Shortened lineouts with Waldrom in midfield as crash or decoy option.
Target Coltman (and Tom Youngs) on all Irish throws with Mafi and Jones to always to look to steal and really give opposition problems.
- Gigantic XV made up of massive line-breakers, used in the tight to tire down the opposition defence.
The likes of Waldrom, Smith, Mafi and Elliot plus Jones, Mujati, Banahan and Ranger to be used to get us over the gainline.
- Look to win battle at the breakdown - Smith and Burger to really look to get into the breakdown and give the opposition problems.
- Young to look to snipe around the fringes and keep us going forwards all the time.
- In attacking play, we will play with the option of 2 first receivers in Burns and Twelverees.
We want to control the game, mixing up the point of our attack consistently.
- In attacking play, we want our dangeorus on the back three as much as possible. Use the form of Brown as much as possibe.
- We will look to employ a blitz defence, focusing on a quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline, and look to win the collisions in defence. Young to sweep behind with an eye on short kicks.
Burns to kick all penalties.
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I can't do Gloucester can I?
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Nope you can't but some weren't happy (me included) that the two of you could get the same bonus for less work so the bonuses have been capped to the number of games predicted on
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Or you could just agree to act your ages and predict properly, it's meant to be anonymous anyway
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I think we're in too deep Bam
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Well done Steve
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On paper I benefitted far more from England's elimination than you did it appears. I think you'd possibly snatch if England made QFs
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