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Post by blackcanelion Mon 02 Nov 2015, 11:11 pm

Roughly a dozen players on each team are likely to be around next world cup. Which 12 do you think will make it through for your team?

Here's my guess for NZ:

1.Kerr-Barlow
2. Coles
3. C. Taylor
4. Cane
5.Retallick
6. Whitelock
7. Moody
8. O Franks
9. A Smith
10. Fekitoa
11. Barrett
12 Noholo

Retired: Carter, Mealamu, Nonu, Smith, Woodcock
Likely to be to Old: McCaw, B. Franks, Crockett, Romano, Kaino, Messam, Vito, Read, S William, Slade, B Smith
Unlikely to be good enough: Milner Scudder, Perenara

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 02 Nov 2015, 11:19 pm

Ok well bit bored here so lets have a go for Wales

1. Evans, Smith
2. Baldwin, Owens
3. Lee, Francis
4. AWJ
5. B Davies, Ball
6. Lydiate, Moriarty
7. Warburton, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Baker
9. Webb, Davies
10. Biggar
11. North, Amos
12. Sc Williams, Allen
13. JD, T Morgan
14. Li Williams, Walker
15. Halfpenny, Anscombe

More than a dozen I guess for Wales, need to start developing another No10 and looking at that lot listed it is only James, Jenkins, Charteris and Roberts from most recent side that are likely not to be around.  Age wise Cuthbert will still be about but hope we have developed a bit by then and Roberts will again be around age wise but I have a feeling he will have retired to concentrate on his doctoring and if not what shape will his body be in.


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Post by TJ Mon 02 Nov 2015, 11:22 pm

Most of the scots will be around for the next and even the one after given the age of the backs - virtually all under 24

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 02 Nov 2015, 11:30 pm

Oh and P.S If Milner Scudder isn't considered good enough can we have Smile
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Post by dummy_half Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:15 am

England could have a lot of the same players around:

1 - Marler, Mako V
2 - George
3 - Cole, Brookes (Thomas also with int experience, but missed this RWC)
4 - Launchbury
5 - Lawes
(6 - Burgess possibly)
8 - Morgan, Billy V

9 - Youngs
10 - Ford, Farrell Slade
11 - May
13 - Joseph (Manu if he can ever get fit)
14 - Watson, Nowell
(15 potentially covered by Watson or Nowell)

Oldest guy in that list is Dan Cole, who will be 32 by the next RWC, and then Ben Youngs will be 30.

Obvious areas in need of looking at are the flanks, 12 and 15 (the latter in the slightly longer term - Brown, Foden and Goode are fine for a couple of years).

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Post by BamBam Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:18 am

Lol we'll take Milner Skudder if he's not good enough!

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Post by chewed_mintie Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:37 am

blackcanelion wrote:Roughly a dozen players on each team are likely to be around next world cup. Which 12 do you think will make it through for your team?

Here's my guess for NZ:

1.Kerr-Barlow
2. Coles
3. C. Taylor
4. Cane
5.Retallick
6. Whitelock
7. Moody
8. O Franks
9. A Smith
10. Fekitoa
11. Barrett
12 Noholo

Retired: Carter, Mealamu, Nonu, Smith, Woodcock
Likely to be to Old: McCaw, B. Franks, Crockett, Romano, Kaino, Messam, Vito, Read, S William, Slade, B Smith
Unlikely to be good enough: Milner Scudder, Perenara

wow...no mention of Julian Savea? at his current rate, he'll have topped 70 tries by then!

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Post by yappysnap Tue 03 Nov 2015, 11:07 am

Phil Vickery and Nick Easter will be there or there abouts, although the new England coach may have to start planning for life after those two post RWC

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Post by IanBru Tue 03 Nov 2015, 11:08 am

For Scotland:
2015 players definitely available for RWC 2019:
Hooker: Brown, McInally, Bryce
Lock: Gilchrist, J Gray, R Gray, Swinson
Back-row: Cowan, Hardie, Strauss, Wilson, Denton, Strokosch
Scrum-half: Pyrgos, Hidalgo-Clyne
Stand-off: Russell, Weir
Centre: Horne, Bennett, Vernon, Scott
Wing: Seymour, Maitland, Visser, Lamont
Full-back: Hogg

Also available for World Cup 2019: Alex Dunbar, Rob Harley, Greig Tonks, Dougie Fife, Damien Hoyland, Rory Hughes, Ben Toolis, Cornell du Preez, Adam Ashe, Ruaridh Jackson, Zander Fagerson

Possibly too old: Laidlaw, Visser, Dickinson, Ford, Nel

Definitely too old: Lamont, Strokosch
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Post by Geordie Tue 03 Nov 2015, 11:51 am

If everyone is fit and on form all the way through:

1 Marler, Auterac
2 Hartley, George
3 Cole
4 Launchbury, Itoje
5
6 Clifford
7
8 Billy V, Ben Morgan, Nathan Hughes

9 Youngs,
10 Ford, Farrell
11,14 May, Watson,
12 Slade, Hill
13 Joseph, Manu
15 Nowell

Some of the players that should make it...but lord it could all change...and so many spots I simply wouldn't want to make a call on.

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Post by whocares Tue 03 Nov 2015, 12:57 pm

BamBam wrote:Lol we'll take Milner Skudder if he's not good enough!

yes was wondering the same. the guy wasnt exactly bad during this world cup (at least from QF onwards).

as for France, I suspect our starting front rowers might still be around but that's about it really as the others will either be too old or really not good enough Sad

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Post by TJ Tue 03 Nov 2015, 1:00 pm

IanBru wrote:For Scotland:
2015 players definitely available for RWC 2019:
Hooker: Brown, McInally, Bryce
Lock: Gilchrist, J Gray, R Gray, Swinson
Back-row: Cowan, Hardie, Strauss, Wilson, Denton, Strokosch
Scrum-half: Pyrgos, Hidalgo-Clyne
Stand-off: Russell, Weir
Centre: Horne, Bennett, Vernon, Scott
Wing: Seymour, Maitland, Visser, Lamont
Full-back: Hogg

Also available for World Cup 2019: Alex Dunbar, Rob Harley, Greig Tonks, Dougie Fife, Damien Hoyland, Rory Hughes, Ben Toolis, Cornell du Preez, Adam Ashe, Ruaridh Jackson, Zander Fagerson

Possibly too old: Laidlaw, Visser, Dickinson, Ford, Nel

Definitely too old: Lamont, Strokosch

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Post by RubyGuby Tue 03 Nov 2015, 1:10 pm

I think Scotland could be dark horses for the 2019 RWC looking at these teams

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Tue 03 Nov 2015, 1:27 pm

IanBru wrote:For Scotland:
2015 players definitely available for RWC 2019:
Hooker: Brown, McInally, Bryce
Lock: Gilchrist, J Gray, R Gray, Swinson
Back-row: Cowan, Hardie, Strauss, Wilson, Denton, Strokosch
Scrum-half: Pyrgos, Hidalgo-Clyne
Stand-off: Russell, Weir
Centre: Horne, Bennett, Vernon, Scott
Wing: Seymour, Maitland, Visser, Lamont
Full-back: Hogg

Also available for World Cup 2019: Alex Dunbar, Rob Harley, Greig Tonks, Dougie Fife, Damien Hoyland, Rory Hughes, Ben Toolis, Cornell du Preez, Adam Ashe, Ruaridh Jackson, Zander Fagerson

Possibly too old: Laidlaw, Visser, Dickinson, Ford, Nel

Definitely too old: Lamont, Strokosch
Definitely too sh!te: Strokosch

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Post by blackcanelion Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:02 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:
IanBru wrote:For Scotland:
2015 players definitely available for RWC 2019:
Hooker: Brown, McInally, Bryce
Lock: Gilchrist, J Gray, R Gray, Swinson
Back-row: Cowan, Hardie, Strauss, Wilson, Denton, Strokosch
Scrum-half: Pyrgos, Hidalgo-Clyne
Stand-off: Russell, Weir
Centre: Horne, Bennett, Vernon, Scott
Wing: Seymour, Maitland, Visser, Lamont
Full-back: Hogg

Also available for World Cup 2019: Alex Dunbar, Rob Harley, Greig Tonks, Dougie Fife, Damien Hoyland, Rory Hughes, Ben Toolis, Cornell du Preez, Adam Ashe, Ruaridh Jackson, Zander Fagerson

Possibly too old: Laidlaw, Visser, Dickinson, Ford, Nel

Definitely too old: Lamont, Strokosch
Definitely too sh!te: Strokosch

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Here's my take. Not sure about the quality of the Scottish backup players or those I've listed. So based on age:

There in 2019:
1 Brown,
2 Bryce,
3 Reid,
4 J Grey,
5 R Grey,
6 Wilson,
7 Denton,
8 Hidalgo-Clyne
9 Pyrgos
10 Russell
11 Weir
12 Bennett
13 Horne
14 Scott
15 Hogg

Too old: R Ford, Dickenson, Nel, Grant, Welsh, Swinson, Cowan, Hardie, Strokosch, Strauss, Laidlaw, Vernan, Lamont, Maitland, Visser, Seymore.



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