Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November
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Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November
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Edinburgh v FC Grenoble
Friday 13 November 2015
KO 19:30
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on [tbc]
Referee Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
Touch Judge 1 Sean Brickell (Wales)
Touch Judge 2 Jon Hardy (Wales)
Fourth Official Bob Nevins (Scotland)
Citing Commissioner Richard McGhee (Scotland)
A. Head to Head
#These teams are meeting for the first time.
B. Recent Domestic Form
Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 7 November
Edinburgh Rugby
[*]-
[*]Munster Rugby
Saturday 31 October
Connacht Rugby 14 - 9 Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 24 October
Zebre Rugby 19 - 11 Edinburgh Rugby
Friday 16 October
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 10 Ulster Rugby
FC Grenoble
Saturday 7 November
Toulouse
[*]-
[*]Grenoble
Saturday 24 October
Castres 23 - 31 Grenoble
Friday 16 October
Grenoble 19 - 30 Montpellier
Saturday 12 October
Racing 92 23 - Grenoble 14
C. Teams
Edinburgh Rugby
15 Dougie Fife
14 Damien Hoyland
13 Will Helu
12 Matt Scott
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
9 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford
3 WP Nel
4 Anton Bresler
5 Alex Toolis
6 Mike Coman (captain)
7 John Hardie (uncapped)
8 Cornell Du Preez
Substitutes
16 Neil Cochrane
17 Rory Sutherland
18 John Andress
19 Nasi Manu
20 Hamish Watson
21 Sean Kennedy
22 Blair Kinghorn
23 Chris Dean
FC Grenoble
Fabien Barcella, Loick Jammes, Kevin Goze - James Percival, Mathias Marie - Mahamadou Diaby, Fabien Alexandre, Dylan Hayes - James Hart, Gilles Bosch - Daniel Kilioni, Jackson Willison, Chris Farrell, Tino Nemani - Clement Gelin
Substitutes: Arnaud Héguy, Sona Taumalolo, Walter Desmaison, Ben Hand, Steven Setephano, Christophe Loustalot, Xavier Mignot, Lucas Dupont
Edinburgh v FC Grenoble
Friday 13 November 2015
KO 19:30
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on [tbc]
Referee Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
Touch Judge 1 Sean Brickell (Wales)
Touch Judge 2 Jon Hardy (Wales)
Fourth Official Bob Nevins (Scotland)
Citing Commissioner Richard McGhee (Scotland)
A. Head to Head
#These teams are meeting for the first time.
B. Recent Domestic Form
Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 7 November
Edinburgh Rugby
[*]-
[*]Munster Rugby
Saturday 31 October
Connacht Rugby 14 - 9 Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 24 October
Zebre Rugby 19 - 11 Edinburgh Rugby
Friday 16 October
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 10 Ulster Rugby
FC Grenoble
Saturday 7 November
Toulouse
[*]-
[*]Grenoble
Saturday 24 October
Castres 23 - 31 Grenoble
Friday 16 October
Grenoble 19 - 30 Montpellier
Saturday 12 October
Racing 92 23 - Grenoble 14
C. Teams
Edinburgh Rugby
15 Dougie Fife
14 Damien Hoyland
13 Will Helu
12 Matt Scott
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
9 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford
3 WP Nel
4 Anton Bresler
5 Alex Toolis
6 Mike Coman (captain)
7 John Hardie (uncapped)
8 Cornell Du Preez
Substitutes
16 Neil Cochrane
17 Rory Sutherland
18 John Andress
19 Nasi Manu
20 Hamish Watson
21 Sean Kennedy
22 Blair Kinghorn
23 Chris Dean
FC Grenoble
Fabien Barcella, Loick Jammes, Kevin Goze - James Percival, Mathias Marie - Mahamadou Diaby, Fabien Alexandre, Dylan Hayes - James Hart, Gilles Bosch - Daniel Kilioni, Jackson Willison, Chris Farrell, Tino Nemani - Clement Gelin
Substitutes: Arnaud Héguy, Sona Taumalolo, Walter Desmaison, Ben Hand, Steven Setephano, Christophe Loustalot, Xavier Mignot, Lucas Dupont
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#weknowwhatsoapis
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Re: Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November
Riskysports wrote:All Joking asideGood Luck to Edinburgh
Luvvies they are and Luvvies they shall remain, bet on the opposition. Everytime.
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Re: Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November
Anyone know if there will be TV coverage? Even if it's French...
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Poopie. Twitter it is then!
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Edinburgh might broadcast it live via Periscope, but that is camera phone quality!
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there are audio commentries on bbc - thats all I can find
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The radio team are very good : well worth a listen.
Apparently they have made 14 changes since they beat Toulon 2 weeks ago : this should be a comfortable Edinburgh win
Especially given the weather - can't see Grenoble being keen!
Apparently they have made 14 changes since they beat Toulon 2 weeks ago : this should be a comfortable Edinburgh win
Especially given the weather - can't see Grenoble being keen!
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anyone got a link for the radio broadcast
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Got it, Edinburgh 5 - 0 up
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cakeordeath wrote:anyone got a link for the radio broadcast
BBC radio Scotland website
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Sounds like we're absolutely annihilating their scrums, but doing bigger all with it!
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11-0 HT - Grenoble not really threatening at all.
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Sounds very much as if Edinburgh have all the ball but still couldn't score in a brothel.
Also seems as if the ref has lost his yellow card.
Also seems as if the ref has lost his yellow card.
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Penalty try Edinburgh. 21-3
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From a scrum - we've obliterated them there
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No - just BBC Scotland radio
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21.10 - they intercept as we press their line with a man up
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Some great impartial commentary here!
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Finished 28-10. Edinburgh in typical fashion failing to get the BP!
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It wasn't really a night for 4 tries but sounds like we had enough set piece dominance and mauling opportunities to get it.
Still, great to get a win finally!
Still, great to get a win finally!
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Not overwhelmed but pleased to win comfortably and deny them anything. Looks like Du Preez is back in the groove.
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Were you there FES?
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Des - did you have Grenoble to win with +17??
Unlucky!
Unlucky!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Were you there FES?
No. Just moved house so missed out. Should make the Dragons game at the end of the month.
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Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?
I'm willing to bet that he was actually twice as good as Chris Fusaro.
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I went for 16.5 to avoid having to cover a draw so was hoping Tonks would miss the conversion.RDW_Scotland wrote:Des - did you have Grenoble to win with +17??
Unlucky!
It's spooky how accurate the bookies can be with the handicaps.
Incidentally, Edinburgh's Challenge Cup run last season was entirely down to me taking a hit on most of the games. If anyone wants to contribute to my "get well" program for Edinburgh I can take paypal payments.
Please note there is close to no chance of a dividend.
As for how Hardie got on, I thought he was OK but not outstanding.
I think Du Preeze will pip him to most MOM awards this season. He's an absolute demon.
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Good to hear Du Preez is back to his rampaging best - he had a quiet start to the season.
If only Solomons paired him with Manu!
If only Solomons paired him with Manu!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to hear Du Preez is back to his rampaging best - he had a quiet start to the season.
If only Solomons paired him with Manu!
Agree - not 100% as to what the balance would be like (Manu and Du Preez both best at 8) but their skillsets are beyond those of Coman so it certainly has the most potential as a combination.
Coman isn't a bad player, but for me the optimal combination is Manu, Hardie and Du Preez, with Watson on the bench.
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Of course he is. He's a Kiwi.funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?
I'm willing to bet that he was actually twice as good as Chris Fusaro.
Oops.
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I think the balance is OK with Du Preez at 6.
Maybe he wants to play one or the other in case one gets injured, now that Denton has gone.
Maybe he wants to play one or the other in case one gets injured, now that Denton has gone.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:I think the balance is OK with Du Preez at 6.
Maybe he wants to play one or the other in case one gets injured, now that Denton has gone.
Are you suggesting that Coman is expendable?
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Not at all - we have two frontline number 8s so he only wants to play one at a time maybe!
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Well with Coman able to play 8 as well as Magnus Bradbury, I hope that isn't the logic. I don't think we should overthink this - just put the best 15 players on the park!
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I agree - just trying to second guess why Solomons would choose Mike - leadership - Coman over Nasi - won the Super XV title - Manu
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I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.
Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.
I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.
With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.
Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.
I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.
With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.
Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
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I think Nasi might be getting on with Scottish cuisine a bit too well.RDW_Scotland wrote:I agree - just trying to second guess why Solomons would choose Mike - leadership - Coman over Nasi - won the Super XV title - Manu
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des wrote:I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.
Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.
I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.
With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.
Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??
My boss' child goes to the same nursery as Al Kellock's child - he finds it quite emasculating standing next to him when they are waiting to pick their kids up.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:des wrote:I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.
Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.
I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.
With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.
Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??
My boss' child goes to the same nursery as Al Kellock's child - he finds it quite emasculating standing next to him when they are waiting to pick their kids up.
He should just shout "ruck", and watch Kellock hide behind the door.
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des wrote:Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch the name of the nursery? BabyfES could perhaps use a change of scene.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??
Nope, definitely not.
I just think there's more to "leadership" than us taking the p*ss out of it.
I went on an action centered leadership course for my old work and fell out with the instructor. I know a lot about bad leadership so know that good leadership must somehow exist.
Also, it is not appropriate to perve in a nursery.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:des wrote:Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch the name of the nursery? BabyfES could perhaps use a change of scene.
You just moved into Trinity didn't you? It's very handy.
Very good staff and resources but I do not like the owners at all. I'll PM you the name.
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des wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??
Nope, definitely not.
I just think there's more to "leadership" than us taking the p*ss out of it.
I went on an action centered leadership course for my old work and fell out with the instructor. I know a lot about bad leadership so know that good leadership must somehow exist.
Also, it is not appropriate to perve in a nursery.
You're not Al Kellock are you?
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