Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November

by **George Carlin** Tue 03 Nov 2015, 07:57

First topic message reminder :

Edinburgh v FC Grenoble
Friday 13 November 2015
KO 19:30
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Live on [tbc]

Referee Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
Touch Judge 1 Sean Brickell (Wales)
Touch Judge 2 Jon Hardy (Wales)
Fourth Official Bob Nevins (Scotland)
Citing Commissioner Richard McGhee (Scotland)

A. Head to Head

#These teams are meeting for the first time.

B. Recent Domestic Form

Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 7 November
Edinburgh Rugby
[*]-
[*]Munster Rugby

Saturday 31 October
Connacht Rugby 14 - 9 Edinburgh Rugby

Saturday 24 October
Zebre Rugby 19 - 11 Edinburgh Rugby

Friday 16 October
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 10 Ulster Rugby

FC Grenoble
Saturday 7 November
Toulouse
[*]-
[*]Grenoble

Saturday 24 October
Castres 23 - 31 Grenoble

Friday 16 October
Grenoble 19 - 30 Montpellier

Saturday 12 October
Racing 92 23 - Grenoble 14

C. Teams

Edinburgh Rugby
Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November - Page 2 Edinbu10

Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November - Page 2 Edinbu10

15 Dougie Fife

14 Damien Hoyland

13 Will Helu

12 Matt Scott

11 Tom Brown

10 Greig Tonks

9 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 WP Nel

4 Anton Bresler

5 Alex Toolis

6 Mike Coman (captain)

7 John Hardie (uncapped)

8 Cornell Du Preez

Substitutes

16 Neil Cochrane

17 Rory Sutherland

18 John Andress

19 Nasi Manu

20 Hamish Watson

21 Sean Kennedy

22 Blair Kinghorn

23 Chris Dean

FC Grenoble
Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November - Page 2 Andre_10

Challenge Cup Pool 5: Edinburgh Rugby v Grenoble, 13 November - Page 2 Andre_10

Fabien Barcella, Loick Jammes, Kevin Goze - James Percival, Mathias Marie - Mahamadou Diaby, Fabien Alexandre, Dylan Hayes - James Hart, Gilles Bosch - Daniel Kilioni, Jackson Willison, Chris Farrell, Tino Nemani - Clement Gelin

Substitutes: Arnaud Héguy, Sona Taumalolo, Walter Desmaison, Ben Hand, Steven Setephano, Christophe Loustalot, Xavier Mignot, Lucas Dupont

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 15:23

#weknowwhatsoapis

by R!skysports Fri 13 Nov 2015, 15:33

#realsilverwear

by jimbopip Fri 13 Nov 2015, 16:08

Riskysports wrote:All Joking aside

~~Good Luck to Edinburgh~~

Luvvies they are and Luvvies they shall remain, bet on the opposition. Everytime.

by R!skysports Fri 13 Nov 2015, 16:17

RDW_Scotland wrote:#weknowwhatsoapis

#ItiswhatyoupickupintheshowerwhenTarquinjoinsyou

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 16:53

Anyone know if there will be TV coverage? Even if it's French...

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 16:55

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 17:16

Poopie. Twitter it is then!

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 17:25

Edinburgh might broadcast it live via Periscope, but that is camera phone quality!

by TJ Fri 13 Nov 2015, 18:45

there are audio commentries on bbc - thats all I can find

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 19:02

The radio team are very good : well worth a listen.

Apparently they have made 14 changes since they beat Toulon 2 weeks ago : this should be a comfortable Edinburgh win

Especially given the weather - can't see Grenoble being keen!

by cakeordeath Fri 13 Nov 2015, 19:30

anyone got a link for the radio broadcast

by cakeordeath Fri 13 Nov 2015, 19:38

Got it, Edinburgh 5 - 0 up

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 19:54

cakeordeath wrote:anyone got a link for the radio broadcast

BBC radio Scotland website

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 20:11

Sounds like we're absolutely annihilating their scrums, but doing bigger all with it!

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 20:22

11-0 HT - Grenoble not really threatening at all.

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 20:47

Sounds very much as if Edinburgh have all the ball but still couldn't score in a brothel.

Also seems as if the ref has lost his yellow card.

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 20:56

Penalty try Edinburgh. 21-3

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 20:58

From a scrum - we've obliterated them there

by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:04

Is this on tv?

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:05

No - just BBC Scotland radio

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:10

21.10 - they intercept as we press their line with a man up

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:13

Some great impartial commentary here!

by highland_scot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:20

Finished 28-10. Edinburgh in typical fashion failing to get the BP!

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:23

It wasn't really a night for 4 tries but sounds like we had enough set piece dominance and mauling opportunities to get it.

Still, great to get a win finally!

by funnyExiledScot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:29

Not overwhelmed but pleased to win comfortably and deny them anything. Looks like Du Preez is back in the groove.

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:31

Were you there FES?

by **RDW** Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:35

Des - did you have Grenoble to win with +17??

Unlucky!

by funnyExiledScot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 21:40

RDW_Scotland wrote:Were you there FES?

No. Just moved house so missed out. Should make the Dragons game at the end of the month.

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 07:36

Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:06

RDW_Scotland wrote:Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?

I'm willing to bet that he was actually twice as good as Chris Fusaro.

by des Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:22

RDW_Scotland wrote:Des - did you have Grenoble to win with +17??

Unlucky!

I went for 16.5 to avoid having to cover a draw so was hoping Tonks would miss the conversion.

It's spooky how accurate the bookies can be with the handicaps.

Incidentally, Edinburgh's Challenge Cup run last season was entirely down to me taking a hit on most of the games. If anyone wants to contribute to my "get well" program for Edinburgh I can take paypal payments.

Please note there is close to no chance of a dividend.

As for how Hardie got on, I thought he was OK but not outstanding.

I think Du Preeze will pip him to most MOM awards this season. He's an absolute demon.

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:28

Good to hear Du Preez is back to his rampaging best - he had a quiet start to the season.

If only Solomons paired him with Manu!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:33

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to hear Du Preez is back to his rampaging best - he had a quiet start to the season.

If only Solomons paired him with Manu!

Agree - not 100% as to what the balance would be like (Manu and Du Preez both best at 8) but their skillsets are beyond those of Coman so it certainly has the most potential as a combination.

Coman isn't a bad player, but for me the optimal combination is Manu, Hardie and Du Preez, with Watson on the bench.

by **George Carlin** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:45

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Was anyone at the game? How did Hardie get on?

I'm willing to bet that he was actually twice as good as Chris Fusaro.

Of course he is. He's a Kiwi.

Oops.

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:48

I think the balance is OK with Du Preez at 6.

Maybe he wants to play one or the other in case one gets injured, now that Denton has gone.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:50

RDW_Scotland wrote:I think the balance is OK with Du Preez at 6.

Maybe he wants to play one or the other in case one gets injured, now that Denton has gone.

Are you suggesting that Coman is expendable?

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:52

Not at all - we have two frontline number 8s so he only wants to play one at a time maybe!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:04

Well with Coman able to play 8 as well as Magnus Bradbury, I hope that isn't the logic. I don't think we should overthink this - just put the best 15 players on the park!

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:05

I agree - just trying to second guess why Solomons would choose Mike - leadership - Coman over Nasi - won the Super XV title - Manu

by des Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:46

I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.

Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.

I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.

With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.

Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.

by des Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:47

RDW_Scotland wrote:I agree - just trying to second guess why Solomons would choose Mike - leadership - Coman over Nasi - won the Super XV title - Manu

I think Nasi might be getting on with Scottish cuisine a bit too well.

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:57

des wrote:I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.

Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.

I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.

With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.

Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.

So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??

My boss' child goes to the same nursery as Al Kellock's child - he finds it quite emasculating standing next to him when they are waiting to pick their kids up.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 13:36

RDW_Scotland wrote:
des wrote:I think Du Preez overall skill level is superb. I like him at 8 so he can reliably field kick returns.

Having said that, he dropped one on Friday just as I said "I'm glad Du Preez is under that one rather than Denton" to my friend next to me.

I've to keep my mouth shut from now on.

With regards to Comon, I think we might be guilty of undervaluing or miss representing "leadership". Lot's of rugby players are pretty daft and having a couple of good, astute communicators on the field can be very valuable.

Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.

So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??

My boss' child goes to the same nursery as Al Kellock's child - he finds it quite emasculating standing next to him when they are waiting to pick their kids up.

He should just shout "ruck", and watch Kellock hide behind the door.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 16 Nov 2015, 13:37

des wrote:Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.

I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch the name of the nursery? BabyfES could perhaps use a change of scene.

by des Mon 16 Nov 2015, 13:42

RDW_Scotland wrote:So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??

Nope, definitely not.

I just think there's more to "leadership" than us taking the p*ss out of it.

I went on an action centered leadership course for my old work and fell out with the instructor. I know a lot about bad leadership so know that good leadership must somehow exist.

Also, it is not appropriate to perve in a nursery.

by des Mon 16 Nov 2015, 13:45

funnyExiledScot wrote:
des wrote:Also, turns out his girlfriend is my eldest daughter's nursery teacher. She is not an unattractive lady and I imagine there are some other "intangibles" to Comon skill set.

I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch the name of the nursery? BabyfES could perhaps use a change of scene.

You just moved into Trinity didn't you? It's very handy.

Very good staff and resources but I do not like the owners at all. I'll PM you the name.

by **RDW** Mon 16 Nov 2015, 13:54

des wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:So Coman has to keep his place to you can perve on his other half??

Nope, definitely not.

I just think there's more to "leadership" than us taking the p*ss out of it.

I went on an action centered leadership course for my old work and fell out with the instructor. I know a lot about bad leadership so know that good leadership must somehow exist.

Also, it is not appropriate to perve in a nursery.

You're not Al Kellock are you? chin

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