Champions Cup Pool 3: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 19 December

by **George Carlin** Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:42 pm

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Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors
Saturday 19 December 2015
KO: 19:45
Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee Pascal Gauzere (France)
Touch Judge 1 Maxime Chalon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Jean-Luc Rebollal (France)
Fourth Official Stuart Kibble (Wales)
TMO Bruno Bessot (France)
Assessor Michael Carroll (Ireland)
Citing Commissioner Mike Rafter (England)

A. European Head to Head

5 Played 5
4 Wins 1
0 Losses 4
0 Draws 0
152 Points 114

B. Recent Form

Sat 12 December 2015
Glasgow Warriors 43 - 6 Scarlets

Sat 5 September 2015
Glasgow Warriors 10 - 16 Scarlets

Fri 9 January 2015
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

Fri 21 November 2014
Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

C. Teams

Scarlets
Champions Cup Pool 3: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 19 December - Page 2 Scarle10

Champions Cup Pool 3: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 19 December - Page 2 Scarle10

Michael Collins; Steffan Evans, Gareth Owen, Hadleigh Parkes, DTH van der Merwe; Aled Thomas, Gareth Davies; Rob Evans, Emyr Phillips (capt), Samson Lee, Jake Ball, Maselino Paulino, Lewis Rawlins, Jack Condy, Morgan Allen.

Replacements: Ken Owens, Wyn Jones, Rhodri Jones, George Earle, Tom Price, Aled Davies, Steve Shingler, Harry Robinson.

Glasgow Warriors
Champions Cup Pool 3: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 19 December - Page 2 Hulk_t10

Champions Cup Pool 3: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 19 December - Page 2 Hulk_t10

15. Tommy Seymour
14. Taqele Naiyaravoro
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Sean Lamont
10. Finn Russell
9. Mike Blair

1. Alex Allan
2. Fraser Brown
3. Sila Puafisi
4. Leone Nakarawa
5. Jonny Gray (Captain)
6. Rob Harley
7. Simone Favaro
8. Josh Strauss

Replacements:

16. Shalva Mamukashvili
17. Gordon Reid
18. Zander Fagerson
19. Tim Swinson
20. Ryan Wilson
21. Grayson Hart
22. Duncan Weir
23. Lee Jones

by IanBru Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:18 am

All the time I spent reading that, I was thinking "Wow, Jim's really pushed the boat out, and then...

jimbopip wrote:
I found this on the Glasgow Warriors Index Forum. Quite fascinating. https://topofthemoongw.wordpress.com/2015/12/16/toonys-ton-sub-club/

God bless you Jim, old chum. Hug

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:28 am

Ian, after all the hours I spent researching to find an article as concise and cogent as that and that's how you thank me. steam

by **BigGee** Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:54 am

As you say Jim, not any point really trying to apply logic!

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:01 am

Toonie could never attend the end of season fancy dress party as a Vulcan.
Rob Harley could.
Big T goes as whatever he likes.

by IanBru Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:06 am

I once went to a Disney fancy dress party... as Walt Disney.

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:14 am

Bru dresses up...Walt Disney. drumroll

Thank you and don't forget to tip your waitress. No that's not a metaphor. Shocked

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:43 am

So,
Murchie
Junior
Sandy Lyle
Samuel Johnson
Gregor Hunter
Fozzie
Oscar Peterson
D'Arcy Rae

Are all playing club rugby this weekend.
Hmmm, Gray-Naka-Swinson to share second row duties, Simonee in at 7, Horne-Pudding-Bennett-Richie V to provide three centres, Schlong-Seymour-Big T-Hoggie perm any three from four for the back three.

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:53 am

15. Tennessee Tam
14.Tacky
13. angel

12. Pudding
11. Dorian Gray
10. Dancer
9. Blade (sic)
8. Bluto
7. Everyone's favourite Italian headcase
6. Harley
5. Flagball
4. The Captain
3.Puafisi
2. Brown
1. Allan

16.Shrek
17. Mama
18. Buffy's Mate
19. Swinson
20 Batman
21. Hart
22Meatball
23. Selkirk Pixie.

Another triumph from the Tombola. The team looks perfectly normal and sensible but simultaneously very WTF?

by IanBru Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:11 am

A powerful forward display last week, solid in the scrum and ....

[Filter reality through Toonie Tombola]

CHANGE EVERYTHING! CHANGE IT ALL NOW!!

Whenever I talk about Toonie, I feel more and more like Dennis Hopper's Photojournalist in Apocalypse Now...

What are they going to say about him? What? Are they going to say he was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? B******t, man!

The heads. You're looking at the heads. Sometimes he goes too far. He's the first one to admit it.

by jimbopip Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:18 am

IanBru wrote:A powerful forward display last week, solid in the scrum and ....

[Filter reality through Toonie Tombola]

CHANGE EVERYTHING! CHANGE IT ALL NOW!!

Whenever I talk about Toonie, I feel more and more like Dennis Hopper's Photojournalist in Apocalypse Now...

What are they going to say about him? What? Are they going to say he was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? B******t, man!

The ~~heads~~ James Downie signing. You're looking at the ~~heads~~James Downie signing. Sometimes he goes too far. He's the first one to admit it.

by MacKnocked-on Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:01 am

Disappointing that Junior isn't getting a chance from the bench, he looked good in the games he's played earlier in the season. Jones has been doing well in the 7s but we know he is unlikely to get back in to the Scotland 15s reckoning so I would be wanting to give Junior as much experience as possible as he is SQ and has the potential to be a really good player (and he is no doubt far faster than Lamont regardless of claims otherwise). Toonie Tombola not working well in this instance.

by mikey_dragon Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:01 am

Different team for the Scarlets, it should implicate a different result...

by **George Carlin** Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:08 am

DTH against Usain Bolt Lamont. I don't like it. Not at all.

by funnyExiledScot Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:38 am

George Carlin wrote:DTH against Usain Bolt Lamont. I don't like it. Not at all.

I can't see Scarlets laying a hand on Glasgow's fastest player. Lightening quick I tell you.

I'd be nervous were I a soap dodger. Tricky fixture this. Samson Lee could well make a mess of the Weegie scrum.

by **BigGee** Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:00 am

I am actually ok with that team. The back line is very strong, minus Hoggy, probably our strongest.

Tommy S will run the ball back to the Scarlets if they kick as badly as they did last week very effectively.

Its only really the front row (or the props more specifically) where we may have worries. The Tongan did ok last week and we have been talking Alex Allan up for a while, time for him to show us he can make the grade. Gordy Reid waits in the wings if he is struggling. both shoiuld benefit from having Frazer Brown back alongside them.

This is still a strong Glasgow team and the hard games will keep on coming thick and fast now, so a bit of mixing it up was always on the cards. This is actually pretty conservative by Toonie standards!

by Chunky Norwich Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:48 am

funnyExiledScot wrote: Samson Lee could well make a mess of the Weegie scrum.

With the awesome form he's in?

by VinceWLB Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:06 am

Last week was the first time of the season i have seen the Glasgow scrum going forward. In the match thread i asked what happened to Samson Lee's scrummaging, he is a shadow of what he is truly capable of.

by **RDW** Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:07 am

If the Glasgow pack was outscrummaging him then there really must be something wrong!

by funnyExiledScot Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:14 am

Chunky Norwich wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote: Samson Lee could well make a mess of the Weegie scrum.

With the awesome form he's in?

Well he's up against a bit of a novice, so you'd like to think that an international prop would gain some advantage regardless of form. Time will tell my chunky friend.

by mikey_dragon Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:21 am

VinceWLB wrote:Last week was the first time of the season i have seen the Glasgow scrum going forward. In the match thread i asked what happened to Samson Lee's scrummaging, he is a shadow of what he is truly capable of.

He spent most of that game on the bench. Since his long-term injury he really hasn't got back to speed. It's about time he did if we're honest seeing as he has had enough training and game time.

by Chunky Norwich Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:16 am

He was flogged with a ruptured achilles that the WRU didn't give enough time to mend. Now he's a shadow of what he was. He'll need time and the summer off for it to mend properly.

by funnyExiledScot Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:20 am

That's a real shame, because he was shaping up to be a beast last season. A symptom of Wales having a lack of talented options at tighthead. Hopes pinned on Tomas Francis then....

by Chunky Norwich Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:24 am

funnyExiledScot wrote: A symptom of Wales having a lack of talented options at tighthead..

No, a symptom of Wales' alleged lack of welfare towards players.

by Chunky Norwich Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:10 am

2 of the Scarlets players are starting their first ever professional games of rugby Union.

by cakeordeath Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:43 pm

Is tonights result good for Glasgow?

by **BigGee** Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:03 pm

I would not pay any attention to it. Glasgow's destiny totally in their own hands. It just tells us what we already know, that neither of those two sides are unbeatable.

by jimbopip Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:58 am

cakeordeath wrote:Is tonights result good for Glasgow?

I spent ages trying to figure this one out, then Mrs Pip said I looked like Father Dougal trying to explain transubstantiation. Erm

Glasgow still need to win three out of four. So after today we have home and away against the Luvvies, away to Racing, away to Northampton then home to Racing. We really need 5 wins out of that lot.
I expect the Tombola to be in overdrive over the next month.

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:45 am

Anyone kind enough to PM me a link. The only one I can find is showing cricket

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:49 am

got it

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:51 am

Glasgow scrum being obliterated already.

Scarlets lucky to get away without a yellow there!

Horrific conditions.

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:02 pm

Scarlets playing the conditions better - lots of awkward kicks through that will likely lead to a guddle.

Glasgow keeping ball in hand more

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:05 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Scarlets playing the conditions better - lots of awkward kicks through that will likely lead to a guddle.

Glasgow keeping ball in hand more

We are getting destroyed in the scrum, which is worrying as there are going to be a lot of knock-ons tonight

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:08 pm

Again makes you question Townsend's selections - this rain has been forecast a while yet he picked two poor scrummagers.

Huge hit by Fuvaro!

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:15 pm

Good catch by the ref, I thought Russell had knocked that on. Crowd not happy, but it was a blatant penalty

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:16 pm

You don't see that very often! You can't play it on the ground though.

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:18 pm

Seymour having a bit of a nightmare. Not the best of nights to play 15.

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:19 pm

I really like Fuvaro - he has a completely reckless disregard for his personal safety!

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:21 pm

Lee binding on the arm all the time

by doctor_grey Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:21 pm

Put the game on a few minutes ago. Seems there is no one in the stands.

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:22 pm

Ref must be reading the forum

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:32 pm

Glasgow will be fairly pleased with that half - it is win at all costs in these conditions and I can't see 4 tries being scored.

I do think they need to be a bit less harum-scarum and play more territory, not that that's Glasgows way!

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:47 pm

Russell really need to stop missing kicks to touch - he averages a couple per game now which is just sloppy

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:58 pm

Kaminski Glasgow again

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:04 pm

3pts wasn't a bad result from that pressure

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:06 pm

Nothing in that at all - Fuvaro was committed

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:06 pm

That is an outrageous call!

Rugby will become non contact soon at this rate!

by Pot Hale Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:07 pm

Bull decision by the ref.

That is completely unfair

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:07 pm

Down to 13 men, need to dig in for the next 10 minutes.

by cakeordeath Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:08 pm

That decision could kill the game for Glasgow. Which is a shame, because it was bullsh1t

by **RDW** Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:09 pm

Really can't believe that was a yellow - it wasn't even a penalty!

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