Eddie Hearn - The biggest winner on Saturday night !!!

1. Sees David Haye selling out the O2 fighting a total chump with people actually screaming for joy when he ended a no contest after two minutes of non activity !!......With a chief support featuring perennial loser Dodson against complete chump.......

Never has Hearn been so confident he can sell any PPV he wants......Maybe he can get some of these fans to change a £3 coin for him..

Deontay Wilder is looking more amateurish every fight.............If Tubbs, Page, Bruno and witherspoon were around he'd probably be mugging women in the Bronx for a living.............Joke champion....

Charles Martin is slow, sluggish and predictable...Won a farce fight in a farcicial way !!!.....

If as we all think Fury will be avoided until Josh has a belt...

WELL TAKE YOUR PICK PAL.....

Still.... not missing the Klits.....

Hope you guys in the off topic section are enjoying my boxing thread....

Comment.....You'll probably be more interesting than the guys on the Boxing forum...

Wrong section?

Pr4wn wrote:Wrong section?

Always liked you Pr4wny......You're a wise man..

Haye's next choice of opponent will determine whether or not he gets a title shot later on in the year. Like him or not (and most of you don't) he has the ability, pedigree and marketability to sell a World title fight with relative ease.  Fury is yet to convince a wider audience that his victory was as much a bad night for Wlad as it was about his tactics. Perhaps the rematch will settle any dispute for good. Still think Haye beats him.

Wilder is still garbage, Haye cleans his clock and Wilder knows this so he'll take a fight with Fury instead. However, neither Fury or Wilder look like holding onto the belts for very long. Dominant champions don't get clocked by nobodies and doormen.

Joshua still has vulnerabilities to be exploited. The hook that Whyte caught him with would be the beginning of the end against a better fighter.  I understand why Haye is talking up a fight with Joshua. It's  a big fight, makes him a lot of money but at this stage in A.J's career is a very winnable fight for Haye as well.

Just wonder if Haye will stick with his current promoters or give Eddie a call. Surely just a matter of time?

Anyway, the Mods will move this thread for ya TRUSS

How many heavies will land the left hook and how many heavies are better than Whyte....

Which is a more depressing thought..

I thought Whyte looked a lot better than most current Heavyweights, he had the balls to take some heavy shots to try and land his own which is fairly unique in the current scene.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How many heavies will land the left hook and how many heavies are better than Whyte....

Which is a more depressing thought..

Given how open AJ is to it, one would have thought a fair few heavies (or at least their trainers) would have spotted that chink in his armour and figured it to be an option. Manny saw that Lewis dropped his left after throwing the jab and tailor McCall's training to landing that overhand right.

DAVE667 wrote:Haye's next choice of opponent will determine whether or not he gets a title shot later on in the year. Like him or not (and most of you don't) he has the ability, pedigree and marketability to sell a World title fight with relative ease.  Fury is yet to convince a wider audience that his victory was as much a bad night for Wlad as it was about his tactics. Perhaps the rematch will settle any dispute for good. Still think Haye beats him.

Wilder is still garbage, Haye cleans his clock and Wilder knows this so he'll take a fight with Fury instead. However, neither Fury or Wilder look like holding onto the belts for very long. Dominant champions don't get clocked by nobodies and doormen.

Joshua still has vulnerabilities to be exploited. The hook that Whyte caught him with would be the beginning of the end against a better fighter.  I understand why Haye is talking up a fight with Joshua. It's  a big fight, makes him a lot of money but at this stage in A.J's career is a very winnable fight for Haye as well.

Just wonder if Haye will stick with his current promoters or give Eddie a call. Surely just a matter of time?

Anyway, the Mods will move this thread for ya TRUSS

I think Fury has been given good credit for his victory (Ring Mag's fighter of the year - a miracle for a Brit).

I don't believe Haye has enough ring fitness to last the course with the likes of Fury, Klitschko or even the big Cuban (forget his name) and Povetkin. Fury would mess him about early and tire him out late. Joshua will eat him for breakfast.

He won't have to last the course....

Fury is pants.........

hazharrison wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Haye's next choice of opponent will determine whether or not he gets a title shot later on in the year. Like him or not (and most of you don't) he has the ability, pedigree and marketability to sell a World title fight with relative ease.  Fury is yet to convince a wider audience that his victory was as much a bad night for Wlad as it was about his tactics. Perhaps the rematch will settle any dispute for good. Still think Haye beats him.

Wilder is still garbage, Haye cleans his clock and Wilder knows this so he'll take a fight with Fury instead. However, neither Fury or Wilder look like holding onto the belts for very long. Dominant champions don't get clocked by nobodies and doormen.

Joshua still has vulnerabilities to be exploited. The hook that Whyte caught him with would be the beginning of the end against a better fighter.  I understand why Haye is talking up a fight with Joshua. It's  a big fight, makes him a lot of money but at this stage in A.J's career is a very winnable fight for Haye as well.

Just wonder if Haye will stick with his current promoters or give Eddie a call. Surely just a matter of time?

Anyway, the Mods will move this thread for ya TRUSS

I think Fury has been given good credit for his victory (Ring Mag's fighter of the year - a miracle for a Brit).

I don't believe Haye has enough ring fitness to last the course with the likes of Fury, Klitschko or even the big Cuban (forget his name) and Povetkin. Fury would mess him about early and tire him out late. Joshua will eat him for breakfast.

Er, he lost on points which means he's already gone the distance with him. I very much doubt Wlad's workrate will have improved since then so there is, I believe a very real possibility Haye goes the distance again if they meet. Same applies for Fury who is hardly Froch or Calzaghe in the workrate department

DAVE667 wrote:

hazharrison wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Haye's next choice of opponent will determine whether or not he gets a title shot later on in the year. Like him or not (and most of you don't) he has the ability, pedigree and marketability to sell a World title fight with relative ease.  Fury is yet to convince a wider audience that his victory was as much a bad night for Wlad as it was about his tactics. Perhaps the rematch will settle any dispute for good. Still think Haye beats him.

Wilder is still garbage, Haye cleans his clock and Wilder knows this so he'll take a fight with Fury instead. However, neither Fury or Wilder look like holding onto the belts for very long. Dominant champions don't get clocked by nobodies and doormen.

Joshua still has vulnerabilities to be exploited. The hook that Whyte caught him with would be the beginning of the end against a better fighter.  I understand why Haye is talking up a fight with Joshua. It's  a big fight, makes him a lot of money but at this stage in A.J's career is a very winnable fight for Haye as well.

Just wonder if Haye will stick with his current promoters or give Eddie a call. Surely just a matter of time?

Anyway, the Mods will move this thread for ya TRUSS

I think Fury has been given good credit for his victory (Ring Mag's fighter of the year - a miracle for a Brit).

I don't believe Haye has enough ring fitness to last the course with the likes of Fury, Klitschko or even the big Cuban (forget his name) and Povetkin. Fury would mess him about early and tire him out late. Joshua will eat him for breakfast.

Er, he lost on points which means he's already gone the distance with him. I very much doubt Wlad's workrate will have improved since then so there is, I believe a very real possibility Haye goes the distance again if they meet. Same applies for Fury who is hardly Froch or Calzaghe in the workrate department

Haye's had something like 8 fights in 8 years. He was blowing out of backside against Chisora. Punching out a doorman isn't going to have improved that. Haye won't face any of that lot, though. He'll face AJ and that will be the end of him.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He won't have to last the course....

Fury is pants.........

He's no Ali but he's better than this lot. Haye barely landed a punch on Valuev & Klitschko - how would he land on Fury (who Klitschko couldn't have hit with a bag of rice)?

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How many heavies will land the left hook and how many heavies are better than Whyte....

Which is a more depressing thought..

Given how open AJ is to it, one would have thought a fair few heavies (or at least their trainers) would have spotted that chink in his armour and figured it to be an option. Manny saw that Lewis dropped his left after throwing the jab and tailor McCall's training to landing that overhand right.

... With his eyes closed!

AJ took some unnecessary shots in a few of his earlier fights. It's the problem with fighting stiffs who are bricking themselves, it doesn't sharpen your game much. Much like Saturday for haye.

As said at least whyte came to win... He just lacked the ability and conditioning to do so.

Saturday told us nothing about what haye will bring to the party, but I'd keep him away from haye for a little while if was Eddie. I guess the huge money it would generate would be very tempting... But for all I like teasing Dave... The potshotting power of haye is high risk for aj at this stage of his development. It's s potential banana skin... There are lower risk routes for the Eddie aj money train to roll along... And the money is clearly guaranteed whoever they out in front of him.

T

He can't keep him away from haye though can he ??...

Because they will both be racing eachother to get a cheap belt of Martin...

Whichever promoter wins will then go on TV holding a cheque he knows the other won't accept and enjoy million dollar paydays for Euro-stiffs...

milkyboy wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How many heavies will land the left hook and how many heavies are better than Whyte....

Which is a more depressing thought..

Given how open AJ is to it, one would have thought a fair few heavies (or at least their trainers) would have spotted that chink in his armour and figured it to be an option. Manny saw that Lewis dropped his left after throwing the jab and tailor McCall's training to landing that overhand right.

... With his eyes closed!

AJ took some unnecessary shots in a few of his earlier fights. It's the problem with fighting stiffs who are bricking themselves, it doesn't sharpen your game much. Much like Saturday for haye.

As said at least whyte came to win... He just lacked the ability and conditioning to do so.

Saturday told us nothing about what haye will bring to the party, but I'd keep him away from haye for a little while if was Eddie. I guess the huge money it would generate would be very tempting... But for all I like teasing Dave... The potshotting power of haye is high risk for aj at this stage of his development. It's s potential banana skin... There are lower risk routes for the Eddie aj money train to roll along... And the money is clearly guaranteed whoever they out in front of him.

T

If AJ leaves himself as wide open to that shot again, Haye could throw it from the dressing room and still catch him with it. One thing I did like about Haye was how he ended a lot of combinations with a body shot and wasn't totally reliant on headhunting. I agree that Haye/AJ this year is a massive risk for Eddie as there's a strong possibility that with Haye's experience he could inflict a career damaging beating much like he did to Enzo. Would think Eddie will steer AJ clear for as long as possible but again...MONEY TALKS!

Money doesn't talk that much Davey with Josh.....

Cheap belt...PPV.....and he can earn millions without Fury or Haye...

He did huge numbers for Whyte...

Fury will be harder to ignore though........

I'm still working on the assumption Fury won't be around long enough to be a viable option for AJ. I just don't buy him as being HW Champion. Now I'm obviously blinded by my dislike for him and the fact he's been nothing like Championship material for the majority of his career but there you have it

DAVE667 wrote:I'm still working on the assumption Fury won't be around long enough to be a viable option for AJ. I just don't buy him as being HW Champion. Now I'm obviously blinded by my dislike for him and the fact he's been nothing like Championship material for the majority of his career but there you have it

I agree but it depends on the matchmaking.......Wouldn't mind seeing someone like Whyte given a go at Fury in the meantime (Potty Pov will be going the WBC route).......Josh and Wilder will have their own non Fury agendas also........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:I'm still working on the assumption Fury won't be around long enough to be a viable option for AJ. I just don't buy him as being HW Champion. Now I'm obviously blinded by my dislike for him and the fact he's been nothing like Championship material for the majority of his career but there you have it

I agree but it depends on the matchmaking.......Wouldn't mind seeing someone like Whyte given a go at Fury in the meantime (Potty Pov will be going the WBC route).......Josh and Wilder will have their own non Fury agendas also........

Can you imagine to uproar if Whyte gets a shot at Fury before AJ especially if Fury goes on to cement his place as divisional Kingpin. Mind you, would anyone be surprised these days if fighter A beats fighter B but isn't next in line for a title shot. Besides, Whyte is likely to be out for a while and need a tune-up fight and I for one would be disappointed if a bloke got a shot at the HW title just because he put in a credible but LOSING showing a few months back. I know everyone is getting carried away with the new Creed film but ffs.......

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:I'm still working on the assumption Fury won't be around long enough to be a viable option for AJ. I just don't buy him as being HW Champion. Now I'm obviously blinded by my dislike for him and the fact he's been nothing like Championship material for the majority of his career but there you have it

I agree but it depends on the matchmaking.......Wouldn't mind seeing someone like Whyte given a go at Fury in the meantime (Potty Pov will be going the WBC route).......Josh and Wilder will have their own non Fury agendas also........

Can you imagine to uproar if Whyte gets a shot at Fury before AJ especially if Fury goes on to cement his place as divisional Kingpin. Mind you, would anyone be surprised these days if fighter A beats fighter B but isn't next in line for a title shot. Besides, Whyte is likely to be out for a while and need a tune-up fight and I for one would be disappointed if a bloke got a shot at the HW title just because he put in a credible but LOSING showing a few months back. I know everyone is getting carried away with the new Creed film but ffs.......

Won't be an uproar..........Chisora lost to Fury and got a shot at the title first.....Besides anything goes..

Rather see Whyte-Fury than Fury v stiff after Wlad.......Sell better too..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:I'm still working on the assumption Fury won't be around long enough to be a viable option for AJ. I just don't buy him as being HW Champion. Now I'm obviously blinded by my dislike for him and the fact he's been nothing like Championship material for the majority of his career but there you have it

I agree but it depends on the matchmaking.......Wouldn't mind seeing someone like Whyte given a go at Fury in the meantime (Potty Pov will be going the WBC route).......Josh and Wilder will have their own non Fury agendas also........

Can you imagine to uproar if Whyte gets a shot at Fury before AJ especially if Fury goes on to cement his place as divisional Kingpin. Mind you, would anyone be surprised these days if fighter A beats fighter B but isn't next in line for a title shot. Besides, Whyte is likely to be out for a while and need a tune-up fight and I for one would be disappointed if a bloke got a shot at the HW title just because he put in a credible but LOSING showing a few months back. I know everyone is getting carried away with the new Creed film but ffs.......

Won't be an uproar..........Chisora lost to Fury and got a shot at the title first.....Besides anything goes..

Rather see Whyte-Fury than Fury v stiff after Wlad.......Sell better too..

Fury sidestepped a fight with Charr with the winner being Wlad's mandatory to take the big money against Haye and they fell through twice. Chisora didn't leapfrog anyone in the manner you appear to be suggesting Whyte would do.

Charr has nothing to do with the fact that Fury beat Chisora and had to wait longer..

Who did chisora beat to get a shot ??

Reiterate.... There was no uproar on that one..

I am sure Haye is pretty happy today, 3 years out with injury and gets a 16,000 sellout at the 02 and viewing figures of over 3m (that's about 12 times the number that watched Joshua vs Whyte) say what you like about Haye but his appeal far outways any other fighter in the UK.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Charr has nothing to do with the fact that Fury beat Chisora and had to wait longer..

Who did chisora beat to get a shot ??

Reiterate.... There was no uproar on that one..

Hadn't he just been robbed in a Euro fight with Helenius? Did that have a part to play as a Euro title would have give him a ranking with one of the bodies?

hogey wrote:I am sure Haye is pretty happy today, 3 years out with injury and gets a 16,000 sellout at the 02 and viewing figures of over 3m (that's about 12 times the number that watched Joshua vs Whyte) say what you like about Haye but his appeal far outways any other fighter in the UK.

Now you've got your first real bonafide British heavyweight champion for a hundred years...

I think your statement about Haye's popularity will be tested..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

hogey wrote:I am sure Haye is pretty happy today, 3 years out with injury and gets a 16,000 sellout at the 02 and viewing figures of over 3m (that's about 12 times the number that watched Joshua vs Whyte) say what you like about Haye but his appeal far outways any other fighter in the UK.

Now you've got your first real bonafide British heavyweight champion for a hundred years...

I think your statement about Haye's popularity will be tested..

If Fury goes abroad and makes the loudmouthed Wilder seems quiet and humble, I think the public will very quickly realize Fury is another unlikeable James DeGale type ninny. Fury already knows he's the bad guy after the "devil comes home" comments

They'd be crazy to take Fury abroad...

Since the homophobic rant I imagine as many people will pay to see him lose as win.....

Not that I condone anyone stooping so low..

Fury's already done it this weekend. maybe he could have conducted himself with a bit of class, he looked all nicely suited and booted and every inch the HW Champion after all but he's obviously going down the boorish oaf route. He was stung by the SPOTY criticism and forced into a disingenuous apology/retraction of sorts. Fury's clearly decided, "F*ck 'em, I am what I am (and what I am needs no excuses)" and he's playing the pantomime villain or as Wilder says, going the WWE route.

With a Haye/Fury or AJ/Fury fight, there'll be no need to manufacture roles as Fury seems content to be the villain and will convince himself he's the one selling the fight.

Yes he's either a lovable idiot..............Or a complete one !!

Not a complete idiot...he still has a couple of night classes to finish

hogey wrote:I am sure Haye is pretty happy today, 3 years out with injury and gets a 16,000 sellout at the 02 and viewing figures of over 3m (that's about 12 times the number that watched Joshua vs Whyte) say what you like about Haye but his appeal far outways any other fighter in the UK.

2,999,000 of them had tuned in for reruns of mock the week.

Mrs milky was trying to remember the episode where David haye rendered dara o'briain unconscious, and figured we must have been on holiday.

I don't get the whole 16,000 sell out. Am not contesting the figure but doesn't the O2 hold 20,000, or possibly even a bit more when set up for boxing? Not sure if you set a venue up to hold less than its capacity and sell that number of tickets it constitutes a sell out.

Venues are set up for reduced capacity and then claimed as sell outs. Andre Ward claims it in Oakland. The Arena he usually boxes in can hold 20,000. They set it up to hold 8,000 for the card and Ward claims a sell out. But thats Andre Ward for you.

That's Andre...The guy that fought the best at 168 and cleared the division out beating the number 1 ..175 pounder for good measure. .

Who cares if our current guys will beat past fighters, we don't know and will never know.

What we do know is that the division is stacked and there are lots of interesting match ups to be made

The heavyweight division is exciting again!

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

hogey wrote:I am sure Haye is pretty happy today, 3 years out with injury and gets a 16,000 sellout at the 02 and viewing figures of over 3m (that's about 12 times the number that watched Joshua vs Whyte) say what you like about Haye but his appeal far outways any other fighter in the UK.

Now you've got your first real bonafide British heavyweight champion for a hundred years...

I think your statement about Haye's popularity will be tested..

I don't think it will, bonafide champion or not but Joshua and Haye both got more interest in their recent fights than Fury did fighting for the championship.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That's Andre...The guy that fought the best at 168 and cleared the division out beating the number 1 ..175 pounder for good measure. .

I think the point was that Ward is unpopular (rather than a poor fighter).