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Post by hazharrison Mon 01 Feb 2016, 11:14 am

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/10-greatest-british-heavyweights-time/9/

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Tyson Fury
3. Henry Cooper
4. David Haye
5. Frank Bruno
6. Bob Fitzimmons
7. Tommy Farr
8. Joe Bugner
9. Bruce Woodcock
10. Don Cockell

BN are chucking some odd lists about these days.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 01 Feb 2016, 11:30 am

IF Fitz is 'British', how do Haye, Fury & Bruno, let alone bloody Cooper, rank ahead of him??!

Populist rubbish.

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Post by milkyboy Mon 01 Feb 2016, 11:33 am

Well we can agree on the number 1....If you think he's British! I was about to dissect it but not sure where to start. I might raise my eyebrows at fury at 2, after one win albeit a great one. I'd be coughing very loudly with cooper at 3 and be too busy rolling on the floor with laughter by the time I saw fitz at 6.

Odd is the word.

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Post by JohnPrescottsJab Tue 02 Feb 2016, 12:04 am

I wanna know what Daniel Herbert (the creator of the list) was smoking at the time of compiling this list and where I can buy it!

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Post by Coxy001 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 7:42 am

This is the sort of WUM list Truss would come up with!

Fitz.... Cooper..... I'll stop before I spit my coffee out

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Post by Rowley Tue 02 Feb 2016, 7:45 am

JohnPrescottsJab wrote:I wanna know what Daniel Herbert (the creator of the list) was smoking at the time of compiling this list and where I can buy it!

Herbert once wrote his top ten light heavies without Charles in it. When you consider that this is not that bad.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 02 Feb 2016, 8:11 am

I was brought up to believe Bruce Woodcock was better than Lennox Lewis, and so I'm very confused.

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Post by JohnPrescottsJab Tue 02 Feb 2016, 12:21 pm

Rowley wrote:
JohnPrescottsJab wrote:I wanna know what Daniel Herbert (the creator of the list) was smoking at the time of compiling this list and where I can buy it!

Herbert once wrote his top ten light heavies without Charles in it. When you consider that this is not that bad.

He must have been on something even stronger back then!

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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:37 pm

1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:39 pm

Not much of a list, but excluding somebody from a 'British' list because they're Welsh isn't very bright either, is it?

Oh, and Fury isn't Irish, either. Born, raised, trained and fought in GB - none of the amiguity of Lewis or Fitz.

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Post by Guest Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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Surely Fury would be top?

Not bad having the kingpin in the division for an island of 5 million people.

You lot have never had the lineal champion

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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:45 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Not much of a list, but excluding somebody from a 'British' list because they're Welsh isn't very bright either, is it?

Oh, and Fury isn't Irish, either. Born, raised, trained and fought in GB - none of the amiguity of Lewis or Fitz.

I have given Wales their own place as a separate nation.

Trained - might wanna check that again - oh and won the IRISH title.....

Leaves a very poor list don't you think?


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Post by Guest Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:47 pm

shenglong2015 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Not much of a list, but excluding somebody from a 'British' list because they're Welsh isn't very bright either, is it?

Oh, and Fury isn't Irish, either. Born, raised, trained and fought in GB - none of the amiguity of Lewis or Fitz.

I have given Wales their own place as a separate nation.

Trained - might wanna check that again - oh and won the IRISH title.....

Leaves a very poor list don't you think?


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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:49 pm

No disagreement re rubbish list.

But didn't Fury compete for Brit ABA's? Just googled it and he did indeed do both. Still doesn't make him anymore Irish than me though - I've grandparents from Ireland also.

LOL re Wales comment.

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Post by Atila Tue 02 Feb 2016, 3:57 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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You forgot Kevin McBride.

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Post by Dipper Brown Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:08 pm

Roy Jones Jr has more of a claim to be Russian than Fury does Irish.

Farr comes from the same town as me and was most definitely British as well as Welsh. Mental transatlantic accent, mind. No idea where that comes from.

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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:23 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:No disagreement re rubbish list.

But didn't Fury compete for Brit ABA's? Just googled it and he did indeed do both. Still doesn't make him anymore Irish than me though - I've grandparents from Ireland also.

LOL re Wales comment.

Then TopHat is Irish as well, and should be on the list!

Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:24 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Roy Jones Jr has more of a claim to be Russian than Fury does Irish.

Farr comes from the same town as me and was most definitely British as well as Welsh. Mental transatlantic accent, mind. No idea where that comes from.

Picked that up in the foreign soils of Wales.

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Post by shenglong2015 Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:27 pm

Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

Your right!

We are bulding some list!


1. Muhammed Ali
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Kevin McBride
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8. TopHat
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10. Martin Rogan

All Irish Heavys!! Starting to shape up better than the British one.....

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Post by Atila Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:31 pm

shenglong2015 wrote:
Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

Your right!

We are bulding some list!


1. Muhammed Ali
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Kevin McBride
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8. TopHat
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10. Martin Rogan

All Irish Heavys!! Starting to shape up better than the British one.....
Also add John L. Sullivan and Paddy Ryan.

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Post by Nico the gman Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:36 pm

shenglong2015 wrote:1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.
Lewis born in London, moved to Canada when he was 12 but he's Canadian, Tommy Farr Welsh, didn't know Wales had left the UK, just goes to show you learn something knew every day.

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Post by rapidringsroad Tue 02 Feb 2016, 8:21 pm

Surely where you are born denotes your nationality, Lewis and Fitzimmons were both born in England.How can you put Cooper above Fitzimmons? and Fury above Haye get real.

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Post by superflyweight Tue 02 Feb 2016, 8:41 pm

rapidringsroad wrote:Surely where you are born denotes your nationality, Lewis and Fitzimmons were both born in England.How can you put Cooper above Fitzimmons? and Fury above Haye get real.

As has been said on here before and to paraphrase Wellington - just because a man is born in a stable, it doesn't make him a horse.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 02 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

That quote does crop up on here, super... and everyone gets it wrong. it was said of Wellington not by him.

Yours pedantically, milky.

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Post by Atila Wed 03 Feb 2016, 6:09 am

superflyweight wrote:
rapidringsroad wrote:Surely where you are born denotes your nationality, Lewis and Fitzimmons were both born in England.How can you put Cooper above Fitzimmons? and Fury above Haye get real.

As has been said on here before and to paraphrase Wellington - just because a man is born in a stable, it doesn't make him a horse.  
If the quote was correct and applied to everyone with foreign DNA, then Nigel Benn, Frank Bruno, Chris Eubank and many others would be just as foreign as Lennox Lewis.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 03 Feb 2016, 6:11 am

milkyboy wrote:That quote does crop up on here, super... and everyone gets it wrong. it was said of Wellington not by him.

Yours pedantically, milky.

Stop stealing Hammersmith's lines...

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 03 Feb 2016, 7:19 am

hazharrison wrote:
milkyboy wrote:That quote does crop up on here, super... and everyone gets it wrong. it was said of Wellington not by him.

Yours pedantically, milky.

Stop stealing Hammersmith's lines...

I'd never have guessed he was a user, doesn't have the merry disposition, although milky stealing em would probably explain that.

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 8:33 am

Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

And Mike Perez - Cork's finest

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Post by hazharrison Wed 03 Feb 2016, 8:40 am

Pedro147 wrote:
Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

And Mike Perez - Cork's finest

He's a Geordie!

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 8:48 am

hazharrison wrote:
Pedro147 wrote:
Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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You forgot Kevin McBride.

And Mike Perez - Cork's finest

He's a Geordie!

He was fighting out of Cork for years, unless he's since moved to Newcastle?

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Post by hazharrison Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:00 am

Pedro147 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Pedro147 wrote:
Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

And Mike Perez - Cork's finest

He's a Geordie!

He was fighting out of Cork for years, unless he's since moved to Newcastle?

Ha! He started out in Consett under Glenn McCrory. I watched them fight in a leisure centre in a backwater of Newcastle years ago.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:23 am

ShahenshahG wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
milkyboy wrote:That quote does crop up on here, super... and everyone gets it wrong. it was said of Wellington not by him.

Yours pedantically, milky.

Stop stealing Hammersmith's lines...

I'd never have guessed he was a user, doesn't have the merry disposition, although milky stealing em would probably explain that.

Always thought a line of the white stuff made people manic and full of misguided self confidence and self importance.

I assumed half the site were snorters!

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:47 am

Will we be adding Amir Khan's name to this list soon?

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 11:22 am

hazharrison wrote:
Pedro147 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Pedro147 wrote:
Atila wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan
You forgot Kevin McBride.

And Mike Perez - Cork's finest

He's a Geordie!

He was fighting out of Cork for years, unless he's since moved to Newcastle?

Ha! He started out in Consett under Glenn McCrory. I watched them fight in a leisure centre in a backwater of Newcastle years ago.

I don't care, we're claiming him Laugh

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Feb 2016, 12:10 pm

No doubt you'll be claiming Amir O'Khan as well

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 12:19 pm

DAVE667 wrote:No doubt you'll be claiming Amir O'Khan as well

Second cousin of our middleweight Eamonn O'Kane

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 03 Feb 2016, 12:37 pm

Haha

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:00 pm

Inbred filth

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:12 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Inbred filth

If you can't keep it in the trousers keep it in the family as they say.

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Post by Marky Wed 03 Feb 2016, 4:05 pm

Surely one of the best Irish fighters is Marc O'Antonio-Barrera thumbsup

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 4:21 pm

Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.
Lewis born in London, moved to Canada when he was 12 but he's Canadian, Tommy Farr Welsh, didn't know Wales had left the UK, just goes to show you learn something knew every day.

* something new everyday.

I waited until today to correct you, in keeping with the theme.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 4:24 pm

Atila wrote:
superflyweight wrote:
rapidringsroad wrote:Surely where you are born denotes your nationality, Lewis and Fitzimmons were both born in England.How can you put Cooper above Fitzimmons? and Fury above Haye get real.

As has been said on here before and to paraphrase Wellington - just because a man is born in a stable, it doesn't make him a horse.  
If the quote was correct and applied to everyone with foreign DNA, then Nigel Benn, Frank Bruno, Chris Eubank and many others would be just as foreign as Lennox Lewis.

Finally someone that gets it.

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Post by Nico the gman Wed 03 Feb 2016, 4:49 pm

shenglong2015 wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.
Lewis born in London, moved to Canada when he was 12 but he's Canadian, Tommy Farr Welsh, didn't know Wales had left the UK, just goes to show you learn something knew every day.

* something new everyday.

I waited until today to correct you, in keeping with the theme.
Yes apologise for the poor grammar, hope I've spelt chip, shoulder, annoying and idiot correctly, always liked the Irish but there's always got to be an exception to the rule I suppose.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 03 Feb 2016, 5:07 pm

Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.
Lewis born in London, moved to Canada when he was 12 but he's Canadian, Tommy Farr Welsh, didn't know Wales had left the UK, just goes to show you learn something knew every day.

* something new everyday.

I waited until today to correct you, in keeping with the theme.
Yes apologise for the poor grammar, hope I've spelt chip, shoulder, annoying and idiot correctly, always liked the Irish but there's always got to be an exception to the rule I suppose.

I just like human beings, no particular nationality or creed or race....as none of that matters.

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Post by Nico the gman Wed 03 Feb 2016, 5:32 pm

shenglong2015 wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
shenglong2015 wrote:1. Lennox Lewis - Canadian
2. Tyson Fury - Irish
3. Henry Cooper - Never won a world title
4. David Haye - Fraudster
5. Frank Bruno - Mike Tysons B**ch
6. Bob Fitzimmons - New Zealander
7. Tommy Farr - Welsh
8. Joe Bugner - Hungarian
9. Bruce Woodcock - Never won a world title
10. Don Cockell - Never won a world title & really scrapping the barrel

Not much of a list really.
Lewis born in London, moved to Canada when he was 12 but he's Canadian, Tommy Farr Welsh, didn't know Wales had left the UK, just goes to show you learn something knew every day.

* something new everyday.

I waited until today to correct you, in keeping with the theme.
Yes apologise for the poor grammar, hope I've spelt chip, shoulder, annoying and idiot correctly, always liked the Irish but there's always got to be an exception to the rule I suppose.

I just like human beings, no particular nationality or creed or race....as none of that matters.
If you say so.

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Post by Mr Bounce Wed 03 Feb 2016, 7:28 pm

Strictly speaking, if you go on what's being said above (i.e. "Never won a world title), then Akinwande, Bentt & Hide should be there - they all won the WBO title - in Hide's case, twice. Would I put any of them above Bugner, Woodcock & Cockell? Doubtful...

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Post by Steffan Wed 03 Feb 2016, 11:17 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Farr comes from the same town as me and was most definitely British as well as Welsh. Mental transatlantic accent, mind. No idea where that comes from
British??? Wash out your mouth young man. What are you...an Uncle Taff or something???

Anyway, Farr was indeed Welsh although I'm sure a few English and Scots jumped on the bandwagon back then

I was knocking off a girl up there years ago and met her in the pub they got that big painting of Farr in

Funnily she was from the same town as where Jimmy Wilde was from. She could punch harder mind

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Post by AdamT Thu 04 Feb 2016, 12:04 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan

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Post by superflyweight Thu 04 Feb 2016, 12:37 pm

AdamT wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Ireland's ten greatest boxers
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10. Martin Rogan

vvanker

Poor Martin - justifiably comes in 10th place in a list with one person on it and then has to put up with being called a w**ker.

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