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Khan by decision !!!
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Won't be on here again before the fight so here it is...
1. Khan is like a poor man's Tommy..The only way you beat him is by burying him with a shot.....Canelo for me is more of an accumulator like JCC..
2. Not sure about Canelo's gifts as a pressure fighter...
3. Khan like Leonard v Hagler has the skills to mess him about and frustrate him...Beat him to the punch and dissuade his advances !!.
4. Fancy an upset here....Khan wins the early rounds and spoils late he can do it...Of course he could get shafted...But a moral victory would be a victory for team Khan profile wise..
5. If Khan gets blown out.....Forget I ever wrote this thread..
Khan W 12..
Won't be on here again before the fight so here it is...
1. Khan is like a poor man's Tommy..The only way you beat him is by burying him with a shot.....Canelo for me is more of an accumulator like JCC..
2. Not sure about Canelo's gifts as a pressure fighter...
3. Khan like Leonard v Hagler has the skills to mess him about and frustrate him...Beat him to the punch and dissuade his advances !!.
4. Fancy an upset here....Khan wins the early rounds and spoils late he can do it...Of course he could get shafted...But a moral victory would be a victory for team Khan profile wise..
5. If Khan gets blown out.....Forget I ever wrote this thread..
Khan W 12..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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You mean Leonard/Hagler?Nore Staat wrote:It's a strange boxing match knowing that one opponent is too light to trouble the heavier opponent punch wise and that the only way the lighter opponent wins is by running away for 12 rounds while trying to come in and out quickly with pitter patter punches to steal the rounds ... with the alternative being the lightweight guy gets flattened the moment the heavier guy gets in the first good clear punch. It doesn't appeal. They should fight guys in their own weight category in which proper boxing / fighting can be practised.
Good comparison from Milkyboy - with the "invincible" McGregor from MMA jumping a few weight categories only to get flattened in the second round.
Anyway, just supposing Khan does win. Where would it ranking in British boxing feats? Above Turpin/SRR, above Honey/Curry, above
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It would have to be the best result of a British boxer because Canelo goes up a weight between weighing and the fight. Effectively Khan would be fighting three weights above his normal fighting weight.
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Absolutely will be one of the best British wins of all time
He is a huge underdog, if he wins he will get all the credit he deserves
He is a huge underdog, if he wins he will get all the credit he deserves
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"
Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.
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DAVE667 wrote:You mean Leonard/Hagler?Nore Staat wrote:It's a strange boxing match knowing that one opponent is too light to trouble the heavier opponent punch wise and that the only way the lighter opponent wins is by running away for 12 rounds while trying to come in and out quickly with pitter patter punches to steal the rounds ... with the alternative being the lightweight guy gets flattened the moment the heavier guy gets in the first good clear punch. It doesn't appeal. They should fight guys in their own weight category in which proper boxing / fighting can be practised.
Good comparison from Milkyboy - with the "invincible" McGregor from MMA jumping a few weight categories only to get flattened in the second round.
Anyway, just supposing Khan does win. Where would it ranking in British boxing feats? Above Turpin/SRR, above Honey/Curry, aboveWilliams/TysonFury/Wlad?
If Khan wins Canelo is face first irish/Mexican plodder.
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jimdig wrote:DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"
Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.
Actually, it's a Khan quote... Though presumably someone scripted it for him. Dave, you moonlighting again?
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Another Khan quote once was "Yeah Nathan Cleverly...good young British fighter...well British but...he's from Welsh" so I doubt very much Khan even knows who Trump is prior to being given this joke by someone (not Dave)milkyboy wrote:jimdig wrote:DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"
Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.
Actually, it's a Khan quote... Though presumably someone scripted it for him. Dave, you moonlighting again?
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Stupid comment from Khan about the Londoner....
Did anybody as the weigh in? I only saw the highlights so not the best to go on but khan didn't look that'small' compared to Canelo. He also appeared relaxed.
Did anybody as the weigh in? I only saw the highlights so not the best to go on but khan didn't look that'small' compared to Canelo. He also appeared relaxed.
Happytravelling- Posts : 889
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Khan looked impressive he was quite big without looking soft
But canelo never looks much bigger at the weigh ins but he bloats up loadssss and will be about 175 tonight
But yea I'm impressed with khan's Physique, he must have known about this fight long long before it was announced as it's not easy bulking up you need time to do it properly
But canelo never looks much bigger at the weigh ins but he bloats up loadssss and will be about 175 tonight
But yea I'm impressed with khan's Physique, he must have known about this fight long long before it was announced as it's not easy bulking up you need time to do it properly
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Alvarez looked badly drained imo
Compared that to the cotto weigh in and it's a huge difference
Don't think it's going to matter in this fight but his days at caneloweight are numbered
Compared that to the cotto weigh in and it's a huge difference
Don't think it's going to matter in this fight but his days at caneloweight are numbered
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Khan will look soft. He still dehydrated a bit. Canelo will smash his flabby tummy. Easy nigh for Alveraz.
Won't last 4.
Won't last 4.
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Just watched the weigh in and thought Khan looked good. Really excited for this fight, just hope it lives up to my expectations and is competitive regardless of the outcome.
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The problem is that it almost certainly won't be competitive.
Alvarez in 4. Far too big far too strong.
Hope I'm wrong, but this will/should be a massacre.
Alvarez in 4. Far too big far too strong.
Hope I'm wrong, but this will/should be a massacre.
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The weigh in is a little bit deceptive, Alvarez is a strong 155lbs with a rock solid chin whereas Khan was a built up 147lber without a good chin, come fight night there will be a very clear size and strength difference.
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Khan's forearms are puny compared to Alvarez. Also compare their necks - Khans is slender and long whereas Alvarez is thick and shortish. Probably one of the reasons why Alvarez has yet to be stopped whereas Khan is more easy to hit in the neck and chin to go down. Mike Tyson was famous for having "no neck".
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Holyfield was another fighter with a stout neck.
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hazharrison wrote:Citing Leonard-Hagler is way off the mark.
1. Khan can't hold a shot (Leonard had a terrific chin).
2. Canelo is no Hagler, granted, but he also doesn't fight anything like the great man. Alvarez is a counter puncher in the main, who fights in bursts ala De la Hoya.
3. Khan has terrible ring intelligence and completely lacks savvy. Leonard was the complete opposite.
4. Khan is pretty poor technically. Leonard was obviously a superb technician.
I'd liken this to Roy Jones vs Glen Johnson: quick, vulnerable guy who doesn't have the best fundamentals vs a solid technician, bit of a plodder but with the power to put the other fellow to bed.
Alvarez KO6.
Bingo!
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong...
As usual
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong...
Just a bit.
hazharrison- Posts : 7540
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Khan may have let me down but you two haven't...
Got my other prediction right....That the first two posters on this thread would be you two...
Have a nice day...
Got my other prediction right....That the first two posters on this thread would be you two...
Have a nice day...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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I see no improvement in khan at all
He has both hands down when it lands
He has both hands down when it lands
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Khan will take the Brook fight next, and get decimated.
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Coxy001 wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong...
As usual
To be fair, truss thought he'd last 12 rounds, coxy thought he'd last 10 seconds. He lasted 6 rounds, the predictions were on about a level. In fact as most (excepting the paid for real ones at the fight) judges had Khan ahead... You could say Truss' prediction had more merit than coxy's.
Bit like saying Stalin was better than hitler!
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Coxy still picked the winner, so I don't agree at all.
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AdamT wrote:Coxy still picked the winner, so I don't agree at all.
Am not sure milky's post was intended to be taken literally.
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Didn't stay up for this one, but have seen the knock out. According the official cards it was quite close up until the stoppage, is this something you guys agree with?
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan may have let me down but you two haven't...
Got my other prediction right....That the first two posters on this thread would be you two...
Have a nice day...
You want to bank that in the predictor league.
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PaulHv2 wrote:Didn't stay up for this one, but have seen the knock out. According the official cards it was quite close up until the stoppage, is this something you guys agree with?
Khan made the faster start, which was always going to be the case. Canelo took his time, found his range, set Khan up with feints and BADINGO. A light heavyweight knocked out a blown up light welter.
Terrible physical mismatch. Another GBP special. Canelo needs to fight someone his own size and, judging by their weights ten days out from a fight, that guy was ringside last night.
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Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...
Nothing to feel ashamed about..
Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..
Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..
Nothing to feel ashamed about..
Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..
Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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For such an elite fighter, he spends a lot of time on his back.
Nothing to do with race, I think he's an arrogant sod. I only like cockiness, when it's backed up.
I'm a happy man with the result. No point lying.
Nothing to do with race, I think he's an arrogant sod. I only like cockiness, when it's backed up.
I'm a happy man with the result. No point lying.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...
Nothing to feel ashamed about..
Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..
Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..
I had to mute the Crolla fight. It's so bad it's untrue.
The undercard was flat out bullying. Who wants to watch people being bullied? Garbage.
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I have to admit that I am impressed with the way Khan handled this fight. He started fast as expected, outboxed Alvarez for the majority of the bout and could have cruised to an easy UD were it not for that pesky full-on middleweight punch detonating on his face. The guy has a hefty pair and is rarely in a dull fight.
On his day he can outbox anyone but at this weight he cannot take the big shots. One thing is for certain - this fight did more for Khan than it did for Alvarez. I fully expect Alvarez to make some noises about being ready to face GGG then make some excuse about weight.
On his day he can outbox anyone but at this weight he cannot take the big shots. One thing is for certain - this fight did more for Khan than it did for Alvarez. I fully expect Alvarez to make some noises about being ready to face GGG then make some excuse about weight.
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Mr Bounce wrote:I have to admit that I am impressed with the way Khan handled this fight. He started fast as expected, outboxed Alvarez for the majority of the bout and could have cruised to an easy UD were it not for that pesky full-on middleweight punch detonating on his face. The guy has a hefty pair and is rarely in a dull fight.
On his day he can outbox anyone but at this weight he cannot take the big shots. One thing is for certain - this fight did more for Khan than it did for Alvarez. I fully expect Alvarez to make some noises about being ready to face GGG then make some excuse about weight.
Yet was behind on two judges' cards (4-1 on one of them)! He would probably have lost on points - travesty though that would have been. In this case, I don't see the issue as his chin - more or less any middleweight caught by that punch would have been out. It was his concentration/defence which cost him.
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It's his iq that lets him down. He has the speed not to get caught, but not the intelligence to stick to a game plan.
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hazharrison wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...
Nothing to feel ashamed about..
Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..
Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..
I had to mute the Crolla fight. It's so bad it's untrue.
The undercard was flat out bullying. Who wants to watch people being bullied? Garbage.
The undercard was that bad I was looking forward to Chisora. How bad does what has preceded it have to be to make Chisora a welcome sight?
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Tommy Coyle fight last night was the most appalling..integrity-less commentating I think I've ever listened to...
Viewer expects a bit more than a Hearn PR man calling fights...
Watt should be ashamed of himself for sitting there and listening to the idiot without chiming in..
Viewer expects a bit more than a Hearn PR man calling fights...
Watt should be ashamed of himself for sitting there and listening to the idiot without chiming in..
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Typical Khan defeat tbf. Physical endurance thin to non-existent (or glass-chinned to put it more bluntly) and a total lack of adequate shot-avoidance skills.
He's always had speed to burn, and yet throughout his career he has eaten so much leather from guys far slower and less agile. The warning signs were there from a very early stage. How was a guy who got decked by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez going to stand up at a level remotely close to Alvarez?
I'm starting to see parallels with Cleverly. Both had the basic skills to do well yet both are either too thick or too indisciplined to use those skills to fullest potential.
He's always had speed to burn, and yet throughout his career he has eaten so much leather from guys far slower and less agile. The warning signs were there from a very early stage. How was a guy who got decked by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez going to stand up at a level remotely close to Alvarez?
I'm starting to see parallels with Cleverly. Both had the basic skills to do well yet both are either too thick or too indisciplined to use those skills to fullest potential.
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Khan has had a good career....
One of the best British fighters I've seen in 25 years...He's not as good as Calzaghe so what..
Let us not go over the top on the kid.
One of the best British fighters I've seen in 25 years...He's not as good as Calzaghe so what..
Let us not go over the top on the kid.
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Khan did about s well as could be expected for what was a physical mismatch. Canelo needs to to start fighting guys his own size to prove he isnt just another Chavez jr relying on his weight and favourable treatment off the judges.
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In the post fight interview he said he has no issues fighting Golovkin, and doing it at 160. Time will tell I guess but here's hoping, would guess that would be everyone's first choice.m
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I would be surprised if Alvarez makes it half way against Golovkin. Hes too slow on his feet to away from Golovkin and he might look granite chinned againt fighters he outweighs but he wont against full blown middleweights I suspect.
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I don't wanna hear this rubbish about Khan outboxing Cayellow before getting pamcaked by a lucky punch.
This was a dumb fight for Khan to take fuelled only by his over inflated ego which seemed reassurance that he belonged in the same category as the other elite names such as Mayweather, Pac man, and Canyellow.
Khan should have fought Brook won and then cleaned up the division.
This was a dumb fight for Khan to take fuelled only by his over inflated ego which seemed reassurance that he belonged in the same category as the other elite names such as Mayweather, Pac man, and Canyellow.
Khan should have fought Brook won and then cleaned up the division.
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Yep he should of fought Algieri again..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Truss he is not one of Britains greats.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Truss people like you said the same rubbish in the Garcia Khan fight.
Khan got Lord but he outclassed Garcia blah blah blah....
Khan still got dropped.
All this sympathy for Khan he as you love to put it Truss overachieved.
Khan got Lord but he outclassed Garcia blah blah blah....
Khan still got dropped.
All this sympathy for Khan he as you love to put it Truss overachieved.
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Khan got Lord but he outclassed Garcia.
Sorry
Sorry
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And people still think he can beat pacman
Hahahaha
Hahahaha
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We moan constantly about guys avoiding the big fights, yet when this guy steps up and shows some balls he's called dumb. Some guys can't win I guess.
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