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Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by Rugby Fan Wed 29 Jun 2016, 2:08 pm
First topic message reminder :
Men’s draw
Pool A: Fiji, USA, Argentina, Brazil
Pool B: South Africa, Australia, France, Spain
Pool C: New Zealand, Great Britain, Kenya, Japan
Women’s draw
Pool A: Australia, USA, Fiji, Colombia
Pool B: New Zealand, France, Spain, Kenya
Pool C: Canada, Great Britain, Brazil, Japan
Twelve teams start the tournament, and pool play reduces this to eight for a quarter final round. The top two teams automatically qualify, along with the two best losers.
In the Men's draw, Brazil, Spain and Japan look most likely to finish out of the running but Spain did beat Samoa, so a turn-up is very possible. NZ, Fiji and South Africa will almost certainly qualify, but the other team to miss the cut could be any of the other six
The quarter finals will match up as follows for both Mens and Womens:
Winner pool A vs Second best 3rd place finish
Runner-up pool B vs Runner-up pool C
Winner pool B vs Best 3rd place finish
Winner pool C vs Runner-up pool A
If you go by form, that could look something like this in the Mens:
Fiji vs Argentina
Australia vs Great Britain
South Africa vs Kenya
New Zealand vs USA
The quarters, semis and final will all be played on the 11th August.
Men’s draw
Pool A: Fiji, USA, Argentina, Brazil
Pool B: South Africa, Australia, France, Spain
Pool C: New Zealand, Great Britain, Kenya, Japan
Women’s draw
Pool A: Australia, USA, Fiji, Colombia
Pool B: New Zealand, France, Spain, Kenya
Pool C: Canada, Great Britain, Brazil, Japan
Twelve teams start the tournament, and pool play reduces this to eight for a quarter final round. The top two teams automatically qualify, along with the two best losers.
In the Men's draw, Brazil, Spain and Japan look most likely to finish out of the running but Spain did beat Samoa, so a turn-up is very possible. NZ, Fiji and South Africa will almost certainly qualify, but the other team to miss the cut could be any of the other six
The quarter finals will match up as follows for both Mens and Womens:
Winner pool A vs Second best 3rd place finish
Runner-up pool B vs Runner-up pool C
Winner pool B vs Best 3rd place finish
Winner pool C vs Runner-up pool A
If you go by form, that could look something like this in the Mens:
Fiji vs Argentina
Australia vs Great Britain
South Africa vs Kenya
New Zealand vs USA
The quarters, semis and final will all be played on the 11th August.
Last edited by Rugby Fan on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 2:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by RDW Fri 12 Aug 2016, 3:28 pm
I suspect Macdonalds will be the restaurant of choice for most athletes once they are done at the Olympics given the strict diets they have been adhering to.
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by lostinwales Fri 12 Aug 2016, 3:51 pm
Nothing wrong with some serious post event feasting, and I am sure there is good heavy non athletic food available in Brazil. But Macdonalds... 
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by whocares Fri 12 Aug 2016, 6:24 pm
George Carlin wrote:The sport won a lot of friends, I think, which is great.
Why the feck shouldn't this be an Olympic sport if something as odd as handball is?
Delighted for Fiji - this will mean so much to them.
Can we have Mark Bennett back now please? Pre-season training has started you know...
Handball as odd as it might look from a British PoV is a major sport in many countries in Europe and is still miles ahead of 7s in terms of playing numbers and number of countries able to play the game at a good level.
The point of having 7s here is to increase those numbers and its visibility so hopefully it will stay and more countries will get good at it.
The debate of which sports shouldn't be in the Olympics is an eternal one and people opinions are very much influenced by where they come from. I mean what's the point of hockey on grass
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by George Carlin Fri 12 Aug 2016, 7:06 pm
whocares wrote:George Carlin wrote:The sport won a lot of friends, I think, which is great.
Why the feck shouldn't this be an Olympic sport if something as odd as handball is?
Delighted for Fiji - this will mean so much to them.
Can we have Mark Bennett back now please? Pre-season training has started you know...
Handball as odd as it might look from a British PoV is a major sport in many countries in Europe and is still miles ahead of 7s in terms of playing numbers and number of countries able to play the game at a good level.
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by whocares Fri 12 Aug 2016, 7:35 pm
Dodgeball in the Olympics all the way!!
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by majesticimperialman Fri 12 Aug 2016, 8:47 pm
England certainly out played by FiJi. But well played England for getting as far as they did.
FiJi well deserved to win the gold medal.
Lets hope this is the start of players coming through to play either 7s 0r the 15 a side.
Bring on the next olympics and lets hope the England team.squad as developed, not only too be able to compete. but win the gold medal.
FiJi well deserved to win the gold medal.
Lets hope this is the start of players coming through to play either 7s 0r the 15 a side.
Bring on the next olympics and lets hope the England team.squad as developed, not only too be able to compete. but win the gold medal.
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by yappysnap Fri 12 Aug 2016, 9:46 pm
majesticimperialman wrote:England certainly out played by FiJi. But well played England for getting as far as they did.
Wait...
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by Rugby Fan Fri 12 Aug 2016, 9:52 pm
Wales England and Scotland have to consider whether they want to keep competing separately, and only come together for the ten week gap between the end of the World Sevens series and the start of the Olympics.
It could be done, but I don't get the impression the three unions want to give up their individual programmes. It raises too many issues about governance and funding. Also, separate teams would still be be needed for the Commonwealth games.
Consequently, it's hard to see how GB are ever going to be able to plan long term for the Olympic sevens.
It could be done, but I don't get the impression the three unions want to give up their individual programmes. It raises too many issues about governance and funding. Also, separate teams would still be be needed for the Commonwealth games.
Consequently, it's hard to see how GB are ever going to be able to plan long term for the Olympic sevens.
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by RiscaGame Sat 13 Aug 2016, 9:29 am
majesticimperialman wrote:England certainly out played by FiJi. But well played England for getting as far as they did.
FiJi well deserved to win the gold medal.
Lets hope this is the start of players coming through to play either 7s 0r the 15 a side.
Bring on the next olympics and lets hope the England team.squad as developed, not only too be able to compete. but win the gold medal.
I don't know if I'm more offended by your obvious wum attempt, or your random capital J in Fiji.
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by Galted Sat 13 Aug 2016, 9:52 am
RiscaGame wrote:majesticimperialman wrote:England certainly out played by FiJi. But well played England for getting as far as they did.
FiJi well deserved to win the gold medal.
Lets hope this is the start of players coming through to play either 7s 0r the 15 a side.
Bring on the next olympics and lets hope the England team.squad as developed, not only too be able to compete. but win the gold medal.
I don't know if I'm more offended by your obvious wum attempt, or your random capital J in Fiji.
I chose to be offended by the separation of "out" and "played" and by the use of a zero in "0r".
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by WELL-PAST-IT Sun 14 Aug 2016, 11:28 am
Was George North there as a reserve for the Sevens side, or just to watch his girlfriend when he should have been training with the rest of the Saints squad ready for the start of the AP in three weeks time?
Don't know what he does, but Laura Trott's boyfriend makes George look a bit weedy. What is it about tiny female cyclists and massive muscled boyfriends?
Don't know what he does, but Laura Trott's boyfriend makes George look a bit weedy. What is it about tiny female cyclists and massive muscled boyfriends?
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by lostinwales Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:11 pm
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Was George North there as a reserve for the Sevens side, or just to watch his girlfriend when he should have been training with the rest of the Saints squad ready for the start of the AP in three weeks time?
Don't know what he does, but Laura Trott's boyfriend makes George look a bit weedy. What is it about tiny female cyclists and massive muscled boyfriends?
Jason Kenny - 4 Olympic golds and counting. And nobody remembers him because they all focus on the cute girlfriend
. Still - having them live locally means than my town must have one the highest densities of olympic medals per head of population in the UK
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by WELL-PAST-IT Sun 14 Aug 2016, 2:49 pm
lostinwales wrote:WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Was George North there as a reserve for the Sevens side, or just to watch his girlfriend when he should have been training with the rest of the Saints squad ready for the start of the AP in three weeks time?
Don't know what he does, but Laura Trott's boyfriend makes George look a bit weedy. What is it about tiny female cyclists and massive muscled boyfriends?
Jason Kenny - 4 Olympic golds and counting. And nobody remembers him because they all focus on the cute girlfriend
Still - having them live locally means than my town must have one the highest densities of olympic medals per head of population in the UK
To be honest, I have got that one wrong, it wasn't Laura Trott, it must have been one of the other ladies of similar stature, as the guy she went to looked around 6'5" and 18 stone of muscle, as powerful as JK is, he isn't in that league
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by lostinwales Sun 14 Aug 2016, 3:43 pm
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:lostinwales wrote:WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Was George North there as a reserve for the Sevens side, or just to watch his girlfriend when he should have been training with the rest of the Saints squad ready for the start of the AP in three weeks time?
Don't know what he does, but Laura Trott's boyfriend makes George look a bit weedy. What is it about tiny female cyclists and massive muscled boyfriends?
Jason Kenny - 4 Olympic golds and counting. And nobody remembers him because they all focus on the cute girlfriend
Still - having them live locally means than my town must have one the highest densities of olympic medals per head of population in the UK
To be honest, I have got that one wrong, it wasn't Laura Trott, it must have been one of the other ladies of similar stature, as the guy she went to looked around 6'5" and 18 stone of muscle, as powerful as JK is, he isn't in that league
Makes sense. I'd bet JK's thighs are more powerful than most 6'5'' muscle bound types though..
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Re: Rio Olympic Sevens Womens August 6-8th Mens 9-11th
by Rugby Fan Sun 28 Aug 2016, 3:24 pm
Interview with Simon Amor in The Rugby Paper sheds some light on how Team GB came together.
http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/featured-post/26628/simon-amor-heart-guts-and-unyielding-belief-made-my-boys-olympic-heroes/
Specifically, Amor concedes that he rested several England players during the World Sevens Series last season, with an eye on preparation for the Olympics.
I think he was right to do that, but it does mean selection could never be entirely transparent. The previous season, a full complement of players saw England finish fourth, and earn automatic Olympic qualification. Resting key players meant we finished last season down in eight place, with some poor performances along the way.
That was still the best finish of any Team GB side, but there's no doubt that individual Scots and Welsh had better seasons than some of their English counterparts.
However, Amor indicates that he had already pencilled in a large part of his squad twelve months out, and so he wasn't really looking at relative performance during the world sevens series.
Personally, I think Amor was right to look at combinations which had delivered titles, as well as wins against the top sides. In the future, though, it's hard to see how form players are going to break in to the side. Especially since you don't just compete head-to-head for a spot, you also have to fit in with the other squad members.
For instance, Luke Treharne looked the best GB half back last season, and continued that form through the trials. With Tom Mitchell as captain, and Dan Bibby as his long term playing partner, there was no real prospect of Treharne being selected unless Bibby got injured.
Amor can defend his decisions because we won silver, and also came through the competition free of injury. That's no mean feat given other teams suffered damaging losses, notably New Zealand.
It seems Amor believes the real way forward is to have Team GB compete every year in the World Series. He's under no illusions about how easy that might be.
The unions still compete individually at the Commonwealth Games, so you can't easily ditch three sevens programmes in favour of one.
http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/featured-post/26628/simon-amor-heart-guts-and-unyielding-belief-made-my-boys-olympic-heroes/
Specifically, Amor concedes that he rested several England players during the World Sevens Series last season, with an eye on preparation for the Olympics.
I think he was right to do that, but it does mean selection could never be entirely transparent. The previous season, a full complement of players saw England finish fourth, and earn automatic Olympic qualification. Resting key players meant we finished last season down in eight place, with some poor performances along the way.
That was still the best finish of any Team GB side, but there's no doubt that individual Scots and Welsh had better seasons than some of their English counterparts.
However, Amor indicates that he had already pencilled in a large part of his squad twelve months out, and so he wasn't really looking at relative performance during the world sevens series.
Personally, I think Amor was right to look at combinations which had delivered titles, as well as wins against the top sides. In the future, though, it's hard to see how form players are going to break in to the side. Especially since you don't just compete head-to-head for a spot, you also have to fit in with the other squad members.
For instance, Luke Treharne looked the best GB half back last season, and continued that form through the trials. With Tom Mitchell as captain, and Dan Bibby as his long term playing partner, there was no real prospect of Treharne being selected unless Bibby got injured.
Amor can defend his decisions because we won silver, and also came through the competition free of injury. That's no mean feat given other teams suffered damaging losses, notably New Zealand.
It seems Amor believes the real way forward is to have Team GB compete every year in the World Series. He's under no illusions about how easy that might be.
In an ideal world you need Team GB to compete in the World Series to give it the best preparation for the Olympics, but how that works needs to be looked at. It’s a complicated one and you’ve got to have World Rugby and all the Unions involved. For example, the Home Unions have their own Sevens programmes so what happens to them? You can’t just shut them down. Then if you do have Team GB in the World Series, which teams come on board to make up the numbers? There are good discussions to be had.
The unions still compete individually at the Commonwealth Games, so you can't easily ditch three sevens programmes in favour of one.
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