Cardiff Blues vs Edinburgh Rugby: Pro 12

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Referee: John Lacey (IRFU, 54th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Stuart Gaffikin (IRFU), Rhys Thomas (WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Jeff Mark (WRU)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

Teams:

Cardiff Blues
15 -Dan Fish;
14 - Blaine Scully,
13 - Cory Allen,
12 - Rey Lee-Lo,
11 - Tom James;
10 - Steve Shingler,
9 - Tomos Williams;
1 - Rhys Gill,
2 - Kirby Myhill,
3 - Taufa'ao Filise,
4 - George Earle,
5 - Macauley Cook,
6 - Josh Navidi,
7 - Ellis Jenkins (capt),
8 - Nick Williams.

16 - Kristian Dacey,
17 - Gethin Jenkins,
18 - Scott Andrews,
19 - James Down,
20 - Cam Dolan,
21 - Lewis Jones,
22 - Gareth Anscombe,
23 - Matthew Morgan.


Edinburgh Rugby
15. Glenn Bryce
14. Rory Scholes
13. Sasa Tofilau
12. Solomoni Rasolea
11. Tom Brown
10. Duncan Weir
9. Nathan Fowles

1. Rory Sutherland
2. Ross Ford
3. WP Nel
4. Fraser McKenzie
5. Grant Gilchrist CAPTAIN
6. Jamie Ritchie
7. Hamish Watson
8. Nasi Manu

Substitutes:
16. Stuart McInally
17. Jack Cosgrove
18. Simon Berghan
19. Ben Toolis
20. Magnus Bradbury
21. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
22. Blair Kinghorn
23. Chris Dean

Nice! Good debut from Shingler so far, especially considering Patchell's patchy performance for the Scarlets earlier.

Edinburgh's new players in midfield don't look very organised in defence

wales606 wrote:Nice! Good debut from Shingler so far, especially considering Patchell's patchy performance for the Scarlets earlier.

You're not going to start billing your fly-half for Wales honours now are you?

mikey_dragon wrote:

wales606 wrote:Nice! Good debut from Shingler so far, especially considering Patchell's patchy performance for the Scarlets earlier.

You're not going to start billing your fly-half for Wales honours now are you?

That Patchell is rubbish. where is the call-up for Shingler!

Amazing seeing the difference in reffing from the Glasgow game - I don't think a single holding on penalty was given that game! Lacey very quick to blow up in comparison.

Rasolea making up for it!

Arrrggg, silly errors and silly ill-discipline costing us so far.

Really good phases there, but need to come away with something

Edinburgh defence really doesn't give me any confidence!

OOOOOHH

So close there, perhaps just hesitating on the offloads because of the rain

Weir's up and unders have been bloody awful.

wales606 wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

wales606 wrote:Nice! Good debut from Shingler so far, especially considering Patchell's patchy performance for the Scarlets earlier.

You're not going to start billing your fly-half for Wales honours now are you?

That Patchell is rubbish. where is the call-up for Shingler!

Sorry? 

RE Patchell, perhaps it's true what Blues supporters said years ago that he isn't a fly-half. He's a very good full-back IMO, has all the attributes. I think he'll get called up because he's versatile and a pretty good player unlike some.

Edinburgh looking pretty clueless in attack - very slow compared to the Blues

Really can see the Blues gameplan change to a far more fast-paced attacking game over the last year. It's even doing pretty well in the pouring rain.

Defence and maul defence need work, but I have been impressed by the tempto and different options used in attack. Hopefully it will all come together.

And the penalty try! Wilson ain't bad at teaching a maul either!

mikey_dragon wrote:

wales606 wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

wales606 wrote:Nice! Good debut from Shingler so far, especially considering Patchell's patchy performance for the Scarlets earlier.

You're not going to start billing your fly-half for Wales honours now are you?

That Patchell is rubbish. where is the call-up for Shingler!

Sorry? 

RE Patchell, perhaps it's true what Blues supporters said years ago that he isn't a fly-half. He's a very good full-back IMO, has all the attributes. I think he'll get called up because he's versatile and a pretty good player unlike some.

Patchell has played 50+ games at FH for the Blues, and I am yet to be convinced. He is a fantastic FB (who can cover FH) though.

Writing is on the wall for Edinburgh I think - got an inexperienced back row on now and a brand new backline.

We look like we just met in the car park!

Ellis Jenkins is in every single breakdown slowing down ball or going for possession. Warburton won't be getting his 7 shirt back and will have to make do with 6.

Maul defence again our biggest weakness.

Ref getting very whistle happy now

Could have done with those kicks

17-13 is a good result for Edinburgh but we've got to do a lot better!

I don't think we've managed to string 2-3 phases together yet.

wales606 wrote:Ellis Jenkins is in every single breakdown slowing down ball or going for possession. Warburton won't be getting his 7 shirt back and will have to make do with 6.

Yep Jenkins sounds like a real 7 - but to get more recognition the guy needs to pass the ball and stand on the wing, like someone else we know .

What happened to Nasi Manu?

Looked like a rib injury.

If we lose the game from the 3 points from that Watson penalty it'll be a tough one to take!

A real shame, Edinburgh could really do with him stringing a few games together.

True, extreme pedantry from Lacey.

Anscombe and Gethin both making an impact from the bench

Argggg! Not good enough securing our own ball at the breakdown. Needs some work

I just can't see where an Edinburgh try will come from.

Scott Andrews on...there goes our scrum

Blues not doing enough to finish. Hoping it will all come together with the tired legs in this last 20.

We look worse than last season - so many stupid mistakes, and the Blues are happily making the most of them!

No stopping Nick Williams from there!

Can see him becoming a big fan favourite at the Arms Park,

1 more for the bonus point.

Nick Williams still got it. He's been very good in this match.

Oh dear, I hope Edinburgh have a large supply of bullets in stock, it looks like its going to be another season of frequently shooting ourselves in the foot!

Loving the remote control plane bringing on the kicking tee.

mikey_dragon wrote:Nick Williams still got it. He's been very good in this match.

Yeah, still making the odd handling error or stupid penalty, but more than making up for them

Edinburgh have been abysmal.

9th place here we come again!

Edinburgh have been so poor.

Is this Edinburgh u10s?

Can't be actually, I've never seen an attempted tackle in u10s rugby that was quite as wet as Duncan Weir's attempt on Nick Williams earlier in the match

The conditions aren't helping, but Meatball is doing his best headless chicken impression. I am sorry, but he never has nor never will be good enough for Pro rugby.

Yes!

Tomos Williams tops off one of his best performances for the Blues with a try.

Really look forward to seeing him develop this year as the established second choice behind Lloyd.

Blues did very well at the maul there, and to continue pushing for the fourth try was good. Respect, but you've made hard work of this win as Edinburgh have looked quite poor i'm sorry to say.

So what is old old Alan's excuse this time, the weather presumably?

wales606 wrote:Yes!

Tomos Williams tops off one of his best performances for the Blues with a try.

Really look forward to seeing him develop this year as the established second choice behind Lloyd.

I thought he was better than Lloyd last season.

Probably, Mildly.

His excuses are what I like the least about Solomons. I don't think he is a terrible coach, but I would have a lot more respect if he didnt trot out excuses after every defeat.

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:So what is old old Alan's excuse this time, the weather presumably?

Too soon to call for Solomons to go? Or 2 seasons too late depending on how you look at it!

RDW_Scotland wrote:

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:So what is old old Alan's excuse this time, the weather presumably?

Too soon to call for Solomons to go? Or 2 seasons too late depending on how you look at it!

I honestly think end of last season was the time for him to go, he is too set in his ways.

While I am at it, Chris Dean has offered nothing in his pro career either. Just not a good enough player.

mikey_dragon wrote:

wales606 wrote:Yes!

Tomos Williams tops off one of his best performances for the Blues with a try.

Really look forward to seeing him develop this year as the established second choice behind Lloyd.

I thought he was better than Lloyd last season.

He was mostly behind Lloyd and Lewis Jones last season, and didn't play many games.

Edinburgh's players and coaches should be ashamed of that performance. We look considerably worse than last year and we were terrible then. Solly needs to go and someone with a clue needs to come in

Blues absolutely worth the BP win but that was a truly woeful Edinburgh performance.