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England T20 squad
Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jake Ball, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Liam Dawson, Alex Hales, Chris Jordan, Tymal Mills, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey
1.Roy
2.Hales
3.Root (c)
4.Morgan
5.Stokes
6.Buttler (wk)
7.Moeen
8.Willey/Jordan
9.Rashid
10.Plunkett/Ball
11.Mills
Likely won't be much change between the ODI and T20 line-ups.
Predicting the pacemen is more difficult though. With Woakes missing Willey and Jordan would extend the batting line-up and can hit a long ball. Willey offers a change of angle, whereas Jordan has been a go to death bowler.
Billings might get a chance as a batsman depending on form from the ODIs.
Dawson may well come in for Stokes and/or Moeen during the 3 games same as in the ODIs.
Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jake Ball, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Liam Dawson, Alex Hales, Chris Jordan, Tymal Mills, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey
1.Roy
2.Hales
3.Root (c)
4.Morgan
5.Stokes
6.Buttler (wk)
7.Moeen
8.Willey/Jordan
9.Rashid
10.Plunkett/Ball
11.Mills
Likely won't be much change between the ODI and T20 line-ups.
Predicting the pacemen is more difficult though. With Woakes missing Willey and Jordan would extend the batting line-up and can hit a long ball. Willey offers a change of angle, whereas Jordan has been a go to death bowler.
Billings might get a chance as a batsman depending on form from the ODIs.
Dawson may well come in for Stokes and/or Moeen during the 3 games same as in the ODIs.
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The ODI/T20 series should be a really good test of how far this England one day team has progressed - you ain't gonna get a harder test than playing India in India in one day stuff, especially with Kohli in seemingly imperious form.
Should be fantastic.
Should be fantastic.
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I don't think Duckett really did enough to justify keeping out either Hales or Morgan, and it's pretty much a coin toss between him/Billings for that reserve batsman slot behind Bairstow (and I think Billings deserves more of a shot in the one day stuff, think he's a really good player)
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The depth of specialist batsmen in limited overs is a bit better than tests eh.
Have to feel a bit for Duckett on this winter, but then he was perhaps lucky to get chances at all.
Have to feel a bit for Duckett on this winter, but then he was perhaps lucky to get chances at all.
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Ajinkya Rahane joins the injured list for India and is set to miss the rest of the series. That is adding injury to insult as he had his worst ever series in terms of numbers so far, and on top of that, there is no further opportunity to rectify the situation. Karnataka batsman Manish Pandey who has already played for the limited over sides, gets his first call up to the test side. He'll be competing for a place in the 11 with his state teammate Karun Nair who already played the last test due to an injury to opener KL Rahul who is set to return.
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The greater concern for India would be the concerns surrounding led seamer Mohammed Shami who played the last test with a rather stiff leg. Seems his knee is a bit stiff. There is Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Ishant Sharma and Shardul Thakur for cover, but Shami has been a class apart from the rest and it won't be easy replacing him.......
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well Rahane's injury is a blessing in disguise for India......he was struggling and can get a mental break....go sort himsefl in FC when proving fitness for the Aus seriesmsp83 wrote:The greater concern for India would be the concerns surrounding led seamer Mohammed Shami who played the last test with a rather stiff leg. Seems his knee is a bit stiff. There is Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Ishant Sharma and Shardul Thakur for cover, but Shami has been a class apart from the rest and it won't be easy replacing him.......
Meanwhile karun nair will play....and its only fair for him......and if he gets runs...the No. 5 slot would be contested between rahane, Nair and Rohit.
Ishant is not available released to get married...
Don't think too low of Shardul.......he is a raw version of Shami and the best seamer on Ranji circuit currently....debuting in India is better as he knows the conditions....and Wankhede is his home pitch..
India should not risk going in with shami if he is anything less than 100%
and actually I am looking forward to Shardul playing at Mumbai actually
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England win the toss and bat.
Jenknings makes his debut and a nervy start for him. Perhaps beginning to settle as he gets off the mark. England 18 for 0.
As I alluded to the other day about England not getting the nature of the pitch for team selection may have continued. Locals feel the reddish earthy soil of the pitch indicates a pitch that will be spinner friendly but England have opted for an extra seamer in Jake Ball.
Jenknings makes his debut and a nervy start for him. Perhaps beginning to settle as he gets off the mark. England 18 for 0.
As I alluded to the other day about England not getting the nature of the pitch for team selection may have continued. Locals feel the reddish earthy soil of the pitch indicates a pitch that will be spinner friendly but England have opted for an extra seamer in Jake Ball.
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As for today's road map England will want to reach lunch no worse than 100 for 2 and build on this in the afternoon to reach tea on 225 for 4 and close tonight no worse than 350 for 6.
India will have different ideas. They will want to assert pressure this morning and restrict England to 90 for 3. This afternoon push home that early advantage to reach tea with England reduced to 200 for 6 and close tonight with England around 300 for 9 or all out.
India will have different ideas. They will want to assert pressure this morning and restrict England to 90 for 3. This afternoon push home that early advantage to reach tea with England reduced to 200 for 6 and close tonight with England around 300 for 9 or all out.
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So after an hour of play England are 49 for 0. A few nervy moments for Jennings early on but looks to have settled now and is 25 not out.
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I would have preferred Nick Browne over Jennings because I like an opener with the basic skills Browne has - solid on front and back foot, leaves the ball well, doesn't play away from his body but still puts away bad balls on his legs and too full outside off.
Jennings has more shots in his locker but from what I've seen and heard is worse at selecting when to use them. He earnt this chance after a fantastic summer though and the lad is applying himself well alongside Cook here.
The pitch looks like a complete road. If England's top order don't pile a decent score on here then the bowlers should finally have the tantrum at their top 5 that must have been building for a while now!
It's the sort of game where in order to win England are going to need to put on a first innings total so big it makes the game safe enough for them to really attack in the field. A total nearing 500 please fellas.
Jennings has more shots in his locker but from what I've seen and heard is worse at selecting when to use them. He earnt this chance after a fantastic summer though and the lad is applying himself well alongside Cook here.
The pitch looks like a complete road. If England's top order don't pile a decent score on here then the bowlers should finally have the tantrum at their top 5 that must have been building for a while now!
It's the sort of game where in order to win England are going to need to put on a first innings total so big it makes the game safe enough for them to really attack in the field. A total nearing 500 please fellas.
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Hello, just as I thought the pitch was doing nothing that exploded off the pitch from Jayant.
Drifted in towards Jennings then spat out the pitch turning and bouncing past Jennings outside edge.
Terrific ball.
Drifted in towards Jennings then spat out the pitch turning and bouncing past Jennings outside edge.
Terrific ball.
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Jennings (dropped on 0) has gradually grown in stature and confidence and on debut has a half century and England rolling along nicely on 92 for 0 and the pitch showing glimpses it will turn later on.
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50 for Jennings
Ashwin and Jayant Yadav are both bowling well. Cook and Jennings are looking to take them on, they are also playing very well. Interesting contest at the moment.
Ashwin and Jayant Yadav are both bowling well. Cook and Jennings are looking to take them on, they are also playing very well. Interesting contest at the moment.
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Cook stumped for 46. Jadeja gets one to turn and beat Cook as he comes down the pitch. England 99 for 1.
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England's session as they reach lunch on 117 for 1. Jennings unbeaten on 65. It goes without saying that it is important they convert this into a big score.
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Root caught in slips for 21 and England on 136 for 2.
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Only been watching for 5 minutes and the ball is already turning a fair bit for Ashwin.
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Yes the pitch giving good turn here. England 151 for 2. England must wrestle back some control here. They cannot afford more than a wicket falling before tea. Jennings coping admirably on 79.
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Umpire Paul Reiffel hit on the head with the ball and is getting treatment and now leaving the field to be replaced by fourth Umpire Erasmus. A lengthy delay here with England on 166 for 2. Important England's batsmen keep their focus here.
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Jennings enters the nervous nineties with England 168 for 2.
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Moeen Ali looking vulnerable but still there 19 and this is a handy partnership steadying things down. England 181 for 2.
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The 50 partnership up as England move on to 186 for 2. Ali 22 not out and Jennings 96 not out.
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What a knock by Keaton Jennings. He sweeps for 4 to bring up his century on his debut. Great knock.
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Well so far it has been an excellent effort by England. Firstly it seems England might actually be able to post a big score without big contributions from the two main players cook and root, which I think is a big psychological milestone for the team. Secondly England may have finally stumbled upon a solution to the continuing top 5 problems. Cook, Hameed, Jennings, Root, Bairstow would appear to be the way forward in the summer. Thirdly Ali is not a top 5 batsman. His runs at 7 are very valuable but he is not consistent enough to move higher up the order.
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England's afternoon session as they go into tea on 196 for 2. Jennings 103 not out and Ali 25 not out. From this position you'd think the bare minimum score to post from here would be 450.
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So in this squad we have 4 players who've been tried as Cooks partner, and its taken the late injury replacement to be the first of them to make a century there.
Now obviously he wasn't available when Root and Ali were tried but has been very much third choice for these tours (or 4th if you consider Cook was ahead of him)...comes in and hits the first century by an England opener other than Cook for 18 months. Since then this is the 5th player to be tried.
He is a player whos really only blossomed this last season, but what a run of form he's on. Confidence goes a long way it seems.
Questions over the selection process? Or just " one of those things". As its panned out Hameeds injury may have given a chance to a real star, and we could see a long term 2/3 with the pair of them growing into class players.
Or it may just be a one off on a dead pitch facing undermotivated bowlers.
Now obviously he wasn't available when Root and Ali were tried but has been very much third choice for these tours (or 4th if you consider Cook was ahead of him)...comes in and hits the first century by an England opener other than Cook for 18 months. Since then this is the 5th player to be tried.
He is a player whos really only blossomed this last season, but what a run of form he's on. Confidence goes a long way it seems.
Questions over the selection process? Or just " one of those things". As its panned out Hameeds injury may have given a chance to a real star, and we could see a long term 2/3 with the pair of them growing into class players.
Or it may just be a one off on a dead pitch facing undermotivated bowlers.
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Pretty good two sessions for England ! Been watching a fair bit of the play since lunch and very impressed with Jennings ...king Carlos suggested above that his shot selection was rumoured to be questionable but I've not seen any evidence of that : he seems to have been picking the right ball to hit rather well. Couple have gone past slips , but generally sound Good way to start your Test career ...
Few balls turning and bouncing. So not a bowlers graveyard , I wouldn't think - at least as the game goes on. Whether England should have included Dawson instead of Ball is a question , I suppose. We will know better in a day or two.
Few balls turning and bouncing. So not a bowlers graveyard , I wouldn't think - at least as the game goes on. Whether England should have included Dawson instead of Ball is a question , I suppose. We will know better in a day or two.
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CaledonianCraig wrote:England's afternoon session as they go into tea on 196 for 2. Jennings 103 not out and Ali 25 not out. From this position you'd think the bare minimum score to post from here would be 450.
Well they're ahead of your road map so far , Craig...still need to continue the good work through this session , mind. But an excellent start.
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Get to close for around 300 for 4 and England will have had an excellent day.
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Brisk scoring rate since tea. Moeen in particular not letting the bowlers settle .
Good positive approach...no need to go ballistic , but the more runs they can collect today while the pitch is at its best ...
Good positive approach...no need to go ballistic , but the more runs they can collect today while the pitch is at its best ...
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It makes sense to look to score quickly with the new ball around the corner. A 50 for Ali and England move on to 230 for 2.
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Oh dear Moeen. Slog sweep high and is taken in the covers. England 230 for 3 - a gift for India.
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Does anyone really see Stokes as a genuine top 5 batsman?
(That comment will no doubt lead to a splendidly crafted century)
(That comment will no doubt lead to a splendidly crafted century)
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Fifty ...and out. Good innings from Moeen ; he'll be disappointed not to have gone on ; but I won't agree with Nasser in his criticism of recklessness : that is his shot and you can't take the good and complain when it goes wrong occasionally.
Though now Jennings has gone too and suddenly India are back in the game !
Though now Jennings has gone too and suddenly India are back in the game !
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Quickly followed by Jennings and for the first time today England are on the back foot on 230 for 4.
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Gooseberry wrote:Does anyone really see Stokes as a genuine top 5 batsman?
(That comment will no doubt lead to a splendidly crafted century)
Top 5 no. Number 6 yes.
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alfie wrote:Fifty ...and out. Good innings from Moeen ; he'll be disappointed not to have gone on ; but I won't agree with Nasser in his criticism of recklessness : that is his shot and you can't take the good and complain when it goes wrong occasionally.
Though now Jennings has gone too and suddenly India are back in the game !
Agree with this - you can't be complimenting him attacking the bowlers then suddenly criticise him for getting out playing an attacking shot
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England need this pair to bed in quickly and settle things down.
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So again Bairstow and stokes are in after a mini collapse. At least this time we have 230 on the board instead of 80.
Joking aside this is now a very important partnership and session for England. We must ensure we don't waste the good foundation that has been laid. 450 should still be our minimum target.
Joking aside this is now a very important partnership and session for England. We must ensure we don't waste the good foundation that has been laid. 450 should still be our minimum target.
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Good bowling from Ashwin to get Jenninngs
Certainly changes the situation : both Stokes and Bairstow like to get on with it ; but with the two wickets falling in the same over they really have to consolidate now.
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Certainly changes the situation : both Stokes and Bairstow like to get on with it ; but with the two wickets falling in the same over they really have to consolidate now.
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