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Post by McLaren Wed 09 Feb 2011, 4:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

Davie mentioned on a thread that had gone a little of topic that there is no charter or mandate form the creators of this site pertaining to how it should be run and the content allowed. I propose that we discuss here how we would like the tone and content of the golf section to be set.

I think we would all agree that the old 606 was often a tough place to discuss the more delicate subjects such as tigers dodgy doctor or anything else that might make a lawyer jittery. At the same time the mods were not the best at keeping the topic golf related, a problem we may already be encountering 606v2.

I propose thee tone on 606v2 should be more serious with the emphasis on more detailed debates on golfing topics. At the same time anyone using the site should be made to feel confident in posting their opinions no matter how experienced they are or how often they use the site.
A slightly higher intellectual tone may be a way we can create a unique experience on 606v2 golf compared to other forums. This means resisting the urge to post very off topic posts or resorting to needless posts offering no more than pointless thought you had at that moment.
This does not mean to say we cannot have light hearted non hard core golf debates but these should be started separately and clearly labelled as of topic or OT in the article heading.

I think this debate will be crucial to the success of 606v2 golf as it will ensure there is a clear purpose to the forum. We should all place our thoughts and agreements/disagreements below.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:13 pm

SR - do you dislike Gervais because he is a little portley?

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Post by super_realist Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:15 pm

No, because he isn't funny, plus he's incredibly smug, over-rated and over exposed, much like that fat Smithy bloke, alright to begin with, dreadful now.

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Post by beninho Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:36 pm

Gervais isnt even portley anymore, now he has become americanised.

But anyone that says he is no comedian, must not have seen the office, which is easily one of the greatest comedies ever made.

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Post by JDandfries Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:37 pm

I agree with Smithy, but never found him funny, every joke was ( a bit like Graeme Norton - sexuality) advertsiing that he is a fat t***

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Post by navyblueshorts Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:39 pm

Smithy? Who's Smithy? Headscratch

I saw (some of) The Office. Although some of it was funny and some of it clever, most of it I found cringeable I'm afraid.
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Post by super_realist Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:48 pm

Navy, he's the shiversome and unsightly James Corden, he of the over-exposed and painfully unfunny

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Post by navyblueshorts Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:56 pm

super_realist wrote:Navy, he's the shiversome and unsightly James Corden, he of the over-exposed and painfully unfunny

Ah. Yes. Not funny. At all.
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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:58 pm

I think Corden is funny Crying or Very sad
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Post by navyblueshorts Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:01 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:I think Corden is funny Crying or Very sad

My sympathies. Given modern medicine, is there not something they can give you to help you get over it? Wink
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Post by McLaren Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:05 pm

Mods

What does most of the stuff posted on here have to do with the topic?

Kindly do you job and keep things on track, this is why the problems of the last week have surfaced and we have lost people like Rossa.


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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:05 pm

Ha, i'll give the doctors a call this evening and ask for an urgent appiointment, which will be in 6 months time!
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Post by super_realist Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:07 pm

For heavens sake "Disgusted of Braid Hills" it's a bit of light hearted banter, light relief from the last couple of days.

Incidently I'm moving down to Edinburgh soon, you can treat me to a game at your course. Whistle

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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:08 pm

McLaren wrote:Mods

What does most of the stuff posted on here have to do with the topic?

Kindly do you job and keep things on track, this is why the problems of the last week have surfaced and we have lost people like Rossa.

Oh no, the teacher's arrived
Blody hell Mac, calm down. I don't think Rossa has left because we're talking about James Corden. I may be wrong
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Post by beninho Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:08 pm

Corden can be funny. But is a bit hit/miss. Thats the thing with comedy its all down to opinions. Like the person who found the office cringeable, cringeable can be funny, as shown in Curb your enthusiasm.

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Post by McLaren Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:09 pm

There are threads for this sort of stuff on the home page or even d4s's anything goes thread, so please post in the correct place or all threads become OT.
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Post by McLaren Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:12 pm

super_realist wrote:For heavens sake "Disgusted of Braid Hills" =

What do you mean by that?

And yes it would be a treat to play the braids.
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Post by navyblueshorts Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:14 pm

McLaren wrote:Mods

What does most of the stuff posted on here have to do with the topic?

Kindly do you job and keep things on track, this is why the problems of the last week have surfaced and we have lost people like Rossa.

Watch the language please Mac. In fact, if you're going to deliberately circumvent the profanity filter in this way, you're likely to find moderation that you may not have expected.

This would be your "intellectual" discussion technique?
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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:16 pm

Mac, i was reading throgh some of Kwini's Vikings Ballwasher thread this morning and you'd posted -

"Anyone else just watched the Womens world cup final, it really was a very exciting end to the match?"

So give it a break!
It's not as if we've detroyed the entire thread!
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Post by beninho Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:20 pm

Forums are just similar to conversations they get dragged all over the place. Where would the fun be if you had to open a new thread everytime it seemed to be going off topic with an answer to a question or a comment/remark.

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Post by sharrison01 Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:22 pm

It's a churned up old thread anyway!

As for Gervais and Corden - The office was good but I thought that Extras was better only because he succeeded in making it funny but taking himself out as the main character and centre of attention - his rant in the final episode about big brother was also genius! As for Cordes, really good comedy writer - Gavin and Stacey and Fat Friends were very well written. He's just spread himself too thinly (if possible) and now turns up every time you turn the bloody telly on!

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Post by barragan Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:27 pm

s_r, what's the deal - why you moving away from the golfing centre of the universe??? you'll have more courses in edinburgh to choose from, yes, but the majority of them are kak unfortunately! braids is nice from what i can remember.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:28 pm

MPB,
I think Mac knows my thread is mostly pretty open, sports enthusiasts discussing sport and other topics of common interest; swearing very much discouraged though. Please. Appreciate yr concern tho'.

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Post by Nay Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:35 pm

Only problem with the braids is the guy who sells golf balls on the 7th tee for Cigarettes. with his bag of beer next to him.


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Post by JAS Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:38 pm

Oops it was probably my fault again. I made an observation earlier in the thread after reading a certain post. The post was so ironic it was hilarious (somewhat typical of the kind of statement Ricky Gervais's character in the Office would come out with) and I pondered that a comedian may be stalking the boards in disguise.

The thread may not be golf monthly material but a mild bit of banter does come as a bit of light relief to some of the "debates" of the last few days.

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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:41 pm

Kwini, i certainly wasn't meaning to impune your thread, which i much enjoy.
I was just trying to say you can't pick and choose when to lecture others about being off topic.
Sorry to have picked on your article!
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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:47 pm

MPB, I'm glad you did!!! thumbsup

Interesting point though, some threads are more narrative than others which are very specific.

Not sure about others but I believe it's important to take charge of one's thread; if you don't like the way it's going, it's up to the OP to steer it back on course. And I still miss the option to delete a comment, which I think I only ever used once, but is a valuable tool of last resort (I know, I know!).

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Post by MustPuttBetter Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:55 pm

I agree Kwini, i wonder if that facility would have stopped some of the recently derailed articles

Mac would have at least been able to delete the off topic bits on this one!
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Post by Diggers Thu 21 Jul 2011, 5:55 pm

Personally not in favour of the delete function, it's not a blog site and unless a poster contravenes site rules then they should be able to post on any thread that's up here. There was a case of a mod on the athletics board deleting posts from a guy he didn't like and if normal users have the same power it could lead to trouble IMO.
I know you are a fair guy Kwini (the odd BBC issue aside) and would rarely delete but you have to set the board up for all users.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 21 Jul 2011, 6:12 pm

Fine line isn't it Digs, The only time I ever invoked it, it was because a poster was grossly insulting to the family of another poster. Enough was more than enough.

Always open to a good difference of opinion though!

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Post by Diggers Thu 21 Jul 2011, 6:31 pm

I agree Kwini, the only person who gets to insult my family is me !

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Post by gaelgowfer Thu 21 Jul 2011, 7:34 pm

I think this site is fine the way it is. In fact, it's better than the old site. We're lucky to have attentive mods who can monitor things. Going off topic is no big deal and sometimes this is the price you have to pay for a bit of humorous banter.

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Post by Davie Thu 21 Jul 2011, 7:42 pm

gaelgowfer wrote:I think this site is fine the way it is. In fact, it's better than the old site. We're lucky to have attentive mods who can monitor things. Going off topic is no big deal and sometimes this is the price you have to pay for a bit of humorous banter.

Gael - I didn't know you cared heart

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Post by Davie Thu 21 Jul 2011, 7:56 pm

Also @McLaren and others. I've seen that your comment (and following comments that quoted it) have been edited to remove your attempt at getting around the swear filter.

I've cautioned a few people before for that - the swear filter is there for a reason whether you like it or not. Please respect it or more official warnings and potentially 24 hour bans will follow.

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Post by Doon the Water Thu 21 Jul 2011, 8:40 pm

Will you guys PLEASE stay on topic.

I'm now off to the bookies to put £25 on Hearts to beat the ugliest ugly sister on saturday.

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Post by Nay Thu 21 Jul 2011, 8:44 pm

BOOOOOOOO

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Post by JAS Thu 21 Jul 2011, 8:59 pm

Doon??? £25 will get you good round somewhere Wink

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Post by Doon the Water Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:36 pm

Not with some of my drinking pals!

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Post by drive4show Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:46 pm

gaelgowfer wrote:Going off topic is no big deal and sometimes this is the price you have to pay for a bit of humorous banter.

gael

Have to disagree with you there. If someone starts a thread for a specific purpose, it can be very frustrating when it degenerates into a pointless argument on some completely random topic that bears no resemblance to the original topic. A bit of banter to keep things lighthearted is perfectly acceptable but some of the recent threads have been an embarrassment.

I'm in favour of bringing in a delete facility. In my experience on the old 606, it was generally only used by the WUM's when they got a response they didn't like.

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Post by Mercurio Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:13 pm

Can we allow swearing in context, please?

We're adults FFS!

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Post by Davie Fri 22 Jul 2011, 6:07 am

drive4show wrote:
I'm in favour of bringing in a delete facility. In my experience on the old 606, it was generally only used by the WUM's when they got a response they didn't like.

D4S - unfortunately since we use free forum software, this option just isn't available Sad

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Post by ADMIN Fri 22 Jul 2011, 7:38 am

Mercurio wrote:Can we allow swearing in context, please?

We're adults FFS!

Swearing on sites would get picked up by work filters, we let you swear and then suddenly half the people can't access the site.
As adults though surely you have an extensive vocabulary that you don't have to resort to swear words?

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Post by super_realist Fri 22 Jul 2011, 7:48 am

drive4show wrote:
gaelgowfer wrote:Going off topic is no big deal and sometimes this is the price you have to pay for a bit of humorous banter.

gael

Have to disagree with you there. If someone starts a thread for a specific purpose, it can be very frustrating when it degenerates into a pointless argument on some completely random topic that bears no resemblance to the original topic. A bit of banter to keep things lighthearted is perfectly acceptable but some of the recent threads have been an embarrassment.

I'm in favour of bringing in a delete facility. In my experience on the old 606, it was generally only used by the WUM's when they got a response they didn't like.

I think in most cases, certainly on this forum there is no hijacking of threads to deliberately "off topic" subjects .

An original post usually degenerates into an off topic one when the question/issue has been done to death, people start going round in circles or people simply get bored.
I don't think we have a problem really.
We should actually count ourselves lucky that we have enough people to keep the forum interesting. The SPL site is a virtual desert (much like the football) so we are actually in a very good position, save for some minor irritants.

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