A ground breaking change.
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A ground breaking change.
Bonjourno
The people of Monza love the HRT and Virgin road blocks every race causing trouble to the front runners. We also enjoy their enthusiasm as they are pushing the limits to qualify within 107% of the qualifying time. The people of Monza respect the bravery of Bernie in trying to fill up the grid and give more teams and drivers a chance.
However, the knowledgable people of Monza feel it is time to discard these slow teams.
The time has come to have 3 drivers in a team. Teams can blend drivers with experience and youth. Super teams at the front of the grid could get 3 stunning drivers. Imagine Alonso, Vettel and Button all in the same team. Fantastico! Fernando would prove to the world his greatness by beating his main rivals week in week out in the same machinery. 3 cars on the grid mean more sponsorship coverage for the teams as there is more chance of their endorsed cars getting on the telly.
Plus 10 teams = 30 cars!
The people of Monza may have saved F1!
Forza the People of Monza!
Forza Alonso!
The people of Monza love the HRT and Virgin road blocks every race causing trouble to the front runners. We also enjoy their enthusiasm as they are pushing the limits to qualify within 107% of the qualifying time. The people of Monza respect the bravery of Bernie in trying to fill up the grid and give more teams and drivers a chance.
However, the knowledgable people of Monza feel it is time to discard these slow teams.
The time has come to have 3 drivers in a team. Teams can blend drivers with experience and youth. Super teams at the front of the grid could get 3 stunning drivers. Imagine Alonso, Vettel and Button all in the same team. Fantastico! Fernando would prove to the world his greatness by beating his main rivals week in week out in the same machinery. 3 cars on the grid mean more sponsorship coverage for the teams as there is more chance of their endorsed cars getting on the telly.
Plus 10 teams = 30 cars!
The people of Monza may have saved F1!
Forza the People of Monza!
Forza Alonso!
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
Join date : 2011-04-20
Location : Monza
Re: A ground breaking change.
well that won't ever happen
hrt and virgin are here to stay. if we discarded everyone after 2 season alot of teams wouldn't even be around.
hrt and virgin are here to stay. if we discarded everyone after 2 season alot of teams wouldn't even be around.
Fernando- Fernando
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Perhaps, but would the newer teams be able to afford to run 3 cars? I would like to see all the teams remain in the sport.
Having 3 drivers would minimise the risk of having a clear number 1 driver.
3 drivers squabbling for team domination would soon eliminate this problem. Given the right points system to fit this, then the contractors would become very interesting indeed!
Having 3 drivers would minimise the risk of having a clear number 1 driver.
3 drivers squabbling for team domination would soon eliminate this problem. Given the right points system to fit this, then the contractors would become very interesting indeed!
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
Join date : 2011-04-20
Location : Monza
Re: A ground breaking change.
It's interesting you pick team mates you feel Alonso can beat. I would like to see Alonso, Hamilton and Kubica in the same team and see what happens.
I think Alonso would come third in that scrap
I think Alonso would come third in that scrap
Belgarion of Riva- Posts : 388
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Interesting speculation as to Alonso coming 3rd in a scrap between himself, Vettel and Kubica.
Can we honestly see Kubica coming back as strong as ever after so much time off?
As for Vettel, I believe that he has never have dealt with pressure from a driver as talented as the great Fernando in the same team and would eventually wilt.
Can we honestly see Kubica coming back as strong as ever after so much time off?
As for Vettel, I believe that he has never have dealt with pressure from a driver as talented as the great Fernando in the same team and would eventually wilt.
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
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Re: A ground breaking change.
I said Hamilton, Alonso and Kubica. No teamordergate or crashgate to assist Alonso.
You see, I selected people that actually race and not people who only win races from pole, or win championships using the best car, or win races with the assistance of the whole team at a detriment to their team mates.
You see, I selected people that actually race and not people who only win races from pole, or win championships using the best car, or win races with the assistance of the whole team at a detriment to their team mates.
Belgarion of Riva- Posts : 388
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Team Order Gate? Crash Gate? I assume you are refering to Fernando Alonso?
I'm afraid your other two choices are no better: -
Lewis Hamilton
http://www.crash.net/f1/comments/63005/1/a/0/kovalainen_moved_over_insists_mclaren.html
Of course Kovi just moved over. Had his belly tickeled on the way past as well!
Sebastian Vettel
Silverstone 2010. I dont even need to post a link do I?
Helmut Marko. Team owner isists he is Number 1 and Webber is number 2.
"not people who only win races from pole or win championships using the best car"
So from statement you are saying that a Virgin car should win a GP? It has nothing to do with the fact that the best car does generally win?
I'm afraid your other two choices are no better: -
Lewis Hamilton
http://www.crash.net/f1/comments/63005/1/a/0/kovalainen_moved_over_insists_mclaren.html
Of course Kovi just moved over. Had his belly tickeled on the way past as well!
Sebastian Vettel
Silverstone 2010. I dont even need to post a link do I?
Helmut Marko. Team owner isists he is Number 1 and Webber is number 2.
"not people who only win races from pole or win championships using the best car"
So from statement you are saying that a Virgin car should win a GP? It has nothing to do with the fact that the best car does generally win?
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Kovalinen moved over for Hamilton, Hamilton didn't go on the radio, complaining about not being able to overtake his team mate.
I do not rate Vettel, to me he's just Jenson Button v2 a guy with a massive car advantage, which will disappear when the exhausts and flexi wings eventually get banned.
I truly respect Alonso but his behaviour on track shows he has lost the fire and requires external forces to win races.
That is why I firmly believe he will finish third if he was in the same machinery with Hamilton and Kubica. Hamilton's beaten him already so it's a straight fight between Alonso and Kubica. With no team orders, my money is on Kubica
I do not rate Vettel, to me he's just Jenson Button v2 a guy with a massive car advantage, which will disappear when the exhausts and flexi wings eventually get banned.
I truly respect Alonso but his behaviour on track shows he has lost the fire and requires external forces to win races.
That is why I firmly believe he will finish third if he was in the same machinery with Hamilton and Kubica. Hamilton's beaten him already so it's a straight fight between Alonso and Kubica. With no team orders, my money is on Kubica
Belgarion of Riva- Posts : 388
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Lets be honest, you have 2 infactuations, 1 - the obsession with Alonso - a good driver he is, but for you at least hes immortal. and 2 - hamilton, for someone who doesnt like the guy, you seem to talk about him ALOT!
Critical_mass- Posts : 1148
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Re: A ground breaking change.
I've wondered about that too, Critical_mass.
Basically Alessandro is just echoing some of Ferrari's preferences. My interpretation is that they feel having 3 cars will allow them to control races, to Alonso's advantage, more easily, as well as giving them a better shot at the constructor's championship.
While I'm disappointed in the lack of progress by Hispania and Virgin, Lotus do appear to be closing the gap to the middle runners. Discarding teams, just because some people see them as nothing more than mobile roadblocks, would just discourage future entrants, should any of the back running teams leave.
Part of the skill set of any front-running F1 driver, should include getting past slower cars that happen to be in front of them. They have blue flags to help them, as it is.
Nando just needs to improve his Back Marker Management skills.
Basically Alessandro is just echoing some of Ferrari's preferences. My interpretation is that they feel having 3 cars will allow them to control races, to Alonso's advantage, more easily, as well as giving them a better shot at the constructor's championship.
While I'm disappointed in the lack of progress by Hispania and Virgin, Lotus do appear to be closing the gap to the middle runners. Discarding teams, just because some people see them as nothing more than mobile roadblocks, would just discourage future entrants, should any of the back running teams leave.
Part of the skill set of any front-running F1 driver, should include getting past slower cars that happen to be in front of them. They have blue flags to help them, as it is.
Nando just needs to improve his Back Marker Management skills.
dyrewolfe- Posts : 6974
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Indeed, as someone said in another post (could have been you) he's not up for a debate, he just keeps going on about alonso being great drivel!
Critical_mass- Posts : 1148
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Very true, Alessandro/El Nando/Jose Lorca is here to post rubbish and wind people up (something he/she/it fails to achieve).
I truly feel sorry for the lad, the real world must be a horrible place for him/she/it
I truly feel sorry for the lad, the real world must be a horrible place for him/she/it
Belgarion of Riva- Posts : 388
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Its nothing to do with Ferrari preferences. I want to see the best drivers in the best cars.
For to long we have had to wait for Robert Kubica to get a competitive drive. The same with Nico Rosberg. If Ferrari and Mclaren had 3 seats available then they could join the front ranks of the paddock.
As a driver in your sport you can only realistically be compared to your team mate. It is impossible to compare Webber to Alonso as they have never driven in the same car. Alonso has never had a driver take more points than him in a season. That’s a very impressive record. With drivers compared to another team mate then you really can judge the best driver… who incidentally is Fernando Alonso!
For to long we have had to wait for Robert Kubica to get a competitive drive. The same with Nico Rosberg. If Ferrari and Mclaren had 3 seats available then they could join the front ranks of the paddock.
As a driver in your sport you can only realistically be compared to your team mate. It is impossible to compare Webber to Alonso as they have never driven in the same car. Alonso has never had a driver take more points than him in a season. That’s a very impressive record. With drivers compared to another team mate then you really can judge the best driver… who incidentally is Fernando Alonso!
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Thats opinion though not fact. FACT
Critical_mass- Posts : 1148
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Re: A ground breaking change.
You're missing the point of F1 though Alessandro...or half of it anyway.
F1 is an engineering competition as much as it is a racing competition.
Also, if you're a good enough driver, you will get noticed and signed up by the best teams, more often than not. The lesser teams give drivers the chance to showcase their talents to the big 3 or 4 teams.
F1 is an engineering competition as much as it is a racing competition.
Also, if you're a good enough driver, you will get noticed and signed up by the best teams, more often than not. The lesser teams give drivers the chance to showcase their talents to the big 3 or 4 teams.
dyrewolfe- Posts : 6974
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Re: A ground breaking change.
Exactly my point. By beating successive team mates Fernando earned a seat at a top team. If he was loosing to team mates he would not have got to the position he is in today.
Simply, you are compared to your team mate primarily. Then speculation allows others to compare you to other drivers on the grid.
Simply, you are compared to your team mate primarily. Then speculation allows others to compare you to other drivers on the grid.
Alessandro Ciambella- Posts : 579
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