6CW Chat v18

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Morning Dicey - morning all

Hero wrote:If someone was 5ft would they actually be a midget? Surely that's just small?

I call Kelly a midget and she is 5 foot - don't take that bit of pleasure away from me!

x12x wrote:

TwisT wrote:Yeah, I totally understand the bad actor comments but appreciate you realise Grace is a "star".  Otherwise it goes against his whole story. So for instance it's OK to call engel a Clown because it's a caricature of who he is. But if you start calling him Wendy, a 5 foot transvestite midget then you are completely and wrongly ignoring his story and his character which isn't right.

Oh yeah, 100%...it would be like calling out O'Callaghan for being a bad wrestler as part of his thing is that he's a stupidly talented one. I also know that if someone was to say "Your films suck" you could easily talk about how they make millions as the backstory is that he's a successful actor...it's about sticking to that.

Dec, I will find time today to promo...I'm still kind of weighing up what I want to say but will make sure I get someone out there asap.

Yeah totally agree, and that is what should always happen in b and f's and promos. Tweets are like snapshots of those. Trying to find weakness in the character and overblowing it but not to the point where it just doesn't make sense.

I love that part of it - guys teeing up a reply with some comments that make you think "wtf how dare he" (or in Marky's hahahaha promo just made me laugh and had totally nothing to come back with!). Cable was a master of it and to me there was no one better.

I always try and tee people up and also show flaws in Grace that you can target. Hopefully moving forward his lack of wrestling talent will be something to target when he starts having to cheat to win or having a massive "Christian" strop. That is the character I would like him to be shows. I want it to be obvious the only reason he is (or if he is) successful is due to luck, money, or being a cheat.

Just want to clarify that unless Chris has a surprise in store, I have no intention of retiring Engel.

Engel has been a bit on and off for a fair few months now and thats down to me, I have been quitr severely depressed and I have always used Engel as my vent. The problem with that is that i often lose focus with the character and so bringing in Chris Guerra is my way of having an alternative. You could argue that i have MMM for that but he was always just a comedy character and his current direction is not something i feel i can promo for.

I am really enjoying writing for Engel, me and Hero have a great chemistry and I feel we can take this any direction and it would still work.

Chris Guerra was a very short lived member of Genesis yes Dec and even tagged with Udo Berg. The Tweet was a play on the old dirt sheet phone line rumours like: A former NWO member will be joining WWF this week. The reveal would be that its Xpac or some other non descript.

TwisT wrote:

Hero wrote:If someone was 5ft would they actually be a midget? Surely that's just small?

I call Kelly a midget and she is 5 foot - don't take that bit of pleasure away from me!

Lorraine is 5ft 1 and I call her a ginger dwarf... when she's out of earshot.

Yeah it would be a shame if Engel went because for two shows running Engel's and Hero's b and f is probably the best thing on the promo thread. It is uncanny how your characters often promo with how you feel at the time. I know Liam went through that stage a while back with his girlfriend (both real life and in character - keep forgetting her name!)

However Guerra gives you a chance to do something new without any pressure. All you need now is for Lee to appear with Berg.......or get Olly to bring back Takeo!

Hero - it is always out of earshot To be fair ginger dwarf is more PC then a midget. Does she melt in the sun as well?

Haha yeah...I got dumped in 6CW and real life, 6CWwas the hardest to deal with as I didn't have to write promos on my real relationship ending haha

Engel Harlequin wrote:Chris Guerra was a very short lived member of Genesis yes Dec and even tagged with Udo Berg. The Tweet was a play on the old dirt sheet phone line rumours like: A former NWO member will be joining WWF this week. The reveal would be that its Xpac or some other non descript.

Career peaked Pete, might as well give up now

Beer and Jack - I have scripted. Left it open for either of you to jump in and I will be about the whole of the upcoming week and a bit to really get stuck into it (thus the shorter initial retort)

I have penned a riposte. I await both of your rebuttals.

I shall script tomorrow eve, if Beer does not beforehand

Mornin everyone

Hiya Twist, good weekend?

Brethren.

Please make sure you're aware of your buddies at all times. Don't want another carry on like over the weekend.

Quiet Hero, as Kelly was henning it up. Was beautiful.

Qotd:

Efed's most hated heel and and most loved face.....

1) Now
2) In the last year
3) Of all time

Doesn't have to be 6CW for 3). This is also how it is conceived in story lines rather than promo ability. But you could do that too I suppose if you think it conjures up a debate.

Good questions, not sure on the answers as yet, but like the questions!

Yeah I started to do mine but had to stop and think. I think I have 1), and possibly 2) but 3) is difficult. I am finding it harder to pick the faces then heels.

1) Zhi and Gazzy
2) Zhi and Dicey
3) Been a lot, even more so before my time. Can add Thunder to the aboves on face side. Max, Jones, Wood other side

1) Now
Face - Dicey Reilly
Heel - O'Callaghan

2) In the last year
Face - Dicey Reilly
Heel - Cassius Zhi

3) Of all time
Face- JJ Johnson
Heel - Cassius Zhi




It is difficult to choose though, I think Cassius is the ultimate heel though and one of the things that makes the character such a good heel is that he is such a good foil for face characters. 

Agree with Crimey's list, if JJ and Zhi are from a 6WF perspective as well?

From 6CW, biggest face of all time would be Leone or Dicey, with Lex and Alex Walker the heels.

1 - Face = Gazzy D, Heel = Grace
2 - Face = Gazzy D, Heel = Liam Wood
3 - Face = JJ, Heel = Cassius

Beer wrote:Agree with Crimey's list, if JJ and Zhi are from a 6WF perspective as well?

From 6CW, biggest face of all time would be Leone or Dicey, with Lex and Alex Walker the heels.

Yeah was going from 6WF and 6CW perspective for all time.

Crimey wrote:

Beer wrote:Agree with Crimey's list, if JJ and Zhi are from a 6WF perspective as well?

From 6CW, biggest face of all time would be Leone or Dicey, with Lex and Alex Walker the heels.

Yeah was going from 6WF and 6CW perspective for all time.

Yeah, completely agree.

Crime Lord would be a close second to Cassius.

The main problem with Crime Lord, is that he doesn't really have a defining face that he's been up against.

Yeah I agree Zhi is up there being the best heel.

I am not quite sure on JJ - I did think that initially, but loved face doesn't have to be most successful or even headliner. You could put Rasta there! JJ always gave me the impression yes he would be loved by a large portion but also hated for being a bit of a cocky d*ck by others.

When you think of it like that, you get more possibilities

1) Face: GazzyD - Heel: Zhi
2) Face: Dicey - Heel: Zhi
3) Face: ???  - Heel: Adamson/Zhi

Struggling for 3). I think Adamson has given many moments when he would be genuinely really disliked by the crowd rather than "oh he is just a heel" (I can think of his swerve on Gazzy being a big one). But of course he would also be secretly liked for it too. You knew where you were with Zhi, an out and out heel. But I think he had fewer moments than Adamson where you actually thought him any more of a b*stard.

Face....still contemplating.

JJ is essentially The Rock and he was a mega face when he was face because of his cockiness and his attitude. I think maybe JJ would have lost his charm with the returns, as The Rock did, but in his initial run, it's basically the closest to The Rock as you could see.

Crimey wrote:The main problem with Crime Lord, is that he doesn't really have a defining face that he's been up against.

TGA?

TwisT wrote:Yeah I agree Zhi is up there being the best heel.

I am not quite sure on JJ - I did think that initially, but loved face doesn't have to be most successful or even headliner. You could put Rasta there! JJ always gave me the impression yes he would be loved by a large portion but also hated for being a bit of a cocky d*ck by others.

When you think of it like that, you get more possibilities

1) Face: GazzyD - Heel: Zhi
2) Face: Dicey - Heel: Zhi
3) Face: ???  - Heel: Adamson/Zhi

Struggling for 3). I think Adamson has given many moments when he would be genuinely really disliked by the crowd rather than "oh he is just a heel" (I can think of his swerve on Gazzy being a big one). But of course he would also be secretly liked for it too. You knew where you were with Zhi, an out and out heel. But I think he had fewer moments than Adamson where you actually thought him any more of a b*stard.

Face....still contemplating.

If you're voting from a 6CW perspective for all time, I can see an argument for Adamson, but overall in both feds Zhi had far more b*stard moments.

As for JJ, in the run up to BIF, he was booked as an uber face, and Crimey is spot on, he is The Rock and he was booked to be as over as they came.

Morning all

Interesting questions

But I would agree with Crimey and Beer but I'd be biased on the first two questions number 3 should be split between the 2 feds as both have had different storylines and various levels of writing for characters but JJ/Zhi defiantly for 6WF

Do you think having such strong heel/face combination was counterproductive for 6WF? Or do you think it made others try and raise their game as they had something to aspire too?

I quite like that 6cw is quite well balanced. There is no glass ceiling as such. This way you can have big surprises, in GTG for instance, and characters can move up or down and back up the card, and it doesn't seem foolish.

Was GTG a big surprise? Most of us had OC or Cerberus?

Beer wrote:Was GTG a big surprise? Most of us had OC or Cerberus?

You'll find most had Dicey but carry on

Who?

The second best podcaster in the world

Paulie T won't be happy with being 3rd.

~ AM Beer

YOU KNOW WHAT BROTHER....PAULIE T NEEDS TO SAY HIS PRAYERS....DRINK HIS MILK.....AND TAKE SOME PODCAST ENHANCING VITAMINS BECAUSE DECAMANIA IS HERE TO STAY BROTHER

Sometimes I am glad I'm deaf.

Beer wrote:Was GTG a big surprise? Most of us had OC or Cerberus?

literally no one predicted me despite being called favourite

It was because you won #30. The monster aura didn't benefit from that. Would have been best if you went in early and stormed through everyone.

I'm guessing people thought you winning #30 meant it was unlikely you winning the whole thing.

As you know, I disagree on that first point!

I don't think it really benefitted anyone having him in early then throwing everyone out cos then just a repeat of Joshua really.

To be honest less enthusiastic about who im against cos anytime Plague is involved in stuff i am it usually ends up pretty sh*t so going to be fun to see what happens.

Fernando wrote:

Beer wrote:Was GTG a big surprise? Most of us had OC or Cerberus?

literally no one predicted me despite being called favourite

#BeerFacts #FalseNews

I don't think near the start but if Cerberus entered in around the 24/25 mark and started to dominate it would have looked better and kept with his dominant roll as of late

President Trump wrote:

Fernando wrote:

Beer wrote:Was GTG a big surprise? Most of us had OC or Cerberus?

literally no one predicted me despite being called favourite

#BeerFacts #FalseNews

That's Dissemination of Fake News ya dodgy c*nt

Yeah around 25 would have been alright. If Grace had won 30 then people might have thought he is true with the BS contract he talked about. Only for him to be chucked out within 5 seconds!

To be honest Nando, I think the EWF title is best right now with Zhi not being consistently around. At least you know Liam is good for promos.

it's not the people involved more the characters that is the concern. It doesn't need Plague/The Brotherhood or even Gazzy since he's little talk with Plague but i suspect it's going to end up that way & that's what would underwhelm things for me tbh.

#bestintheworld

Zhi is such a Mr Winklechops. Who the hell does he think he is, having a bloody personal life.

I think the Brotherhood faction bombed and is putting people off feuding with Liam which is a shame because I know first hand how great that can be

I'd be more than happy to go into a long term program with Liam, for me he's the A guy in the fed this year.

Im quite looking forward to it. It's just the other stuff going on around it isn't really needed tbh.