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Post by hazharrison Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:23 am

The Cruiser tournament looks superb with just about all of the top cruisers taking part:

Gassiev - IBF
Huck
Breidis - WBC
Dorticos- WBA
Wlodarczyk

Poised to join:

Glowacki
Usyk
Kudryashov

That has to be the greatest tournament of all time (single elimination with final in May).

Jamie Cox has joined the SM field (that includes George Groves).



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Post by AdamT Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:28 am

Who do you pick as top guy? I have watched these guys fight, but I'm not too clued up on who the best guys are at cruiser.

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Post by TheSquaredCircle Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:05 am

Some of them are in the twiglight zone. Breidis and usyk will bring the most excitement and come out as top of the pack.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:07 am

Id have to say Usyk will dominate. Great coming out tournament for him. Already started his pro career well and has all the tools.

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Post by hazharrison Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:52 pm

Usyk or Gassiev would start favourite but if that is the field, it includes most of the current top ten (one of the best divisions currently).

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:00 pm

It will produce decent fights largely because the boxers themselves are pretty poor, it's a competitive division rather than a talent laden one.

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Post by hazharrison Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:48 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It will produce decent fights largely because the boxers themselves are pretty poor, it's a competitive division rather than a talent laden one.

Usyk is one of the brightest talents in the game. Gassiev, one of the toughest. Kudryashov, one of the most exciting. All three are talented fighters.

It will be exciting due to the fact these are exciting fighters, rather than poor. And unlike the Super Six, it's single elimination (less pull-outs, more on the line).

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:26 pm

Usyk might separate himself from the rest but calling the rest tough sums them up perfectly for me; don't get me wrong it makes for decent fights.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:07 pm

Pretty good tournament for a supposedly "Weak" division

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Post by hazharrison Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:56 pm

Cruiser has been one of the most action packed divisions for a couple of years. This should be a cracking tournament.

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Post by hazharrison Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:15 am

Eubank and Callum Smith added to the SM tourney. Really great news.

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Post by hazharrison Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:07 pm

Mike Perez just added to Cruiser in place of Glowacki:

Usyk - WBO
Briedis - WBC
Gassiev - IBF
Dorticos - WBA
Huck
Wlodarczyk
Kudryashov
Perez

Greatest tournament in boxing history?

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Post by milkyboy Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:11 pm

Maybe it's because there are no brits in the cruiser comp, maybe it's just because it's cruiser and it's been carp for so long it's hard to get your head round it being interesting... but I'm struggling to get much excitement up for this.

I don't know who else is in the super middleweight comp, but already with smith groves and Eubanks in it, it holds a bit more interest for me.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:03 pm

Sorry hammer, you're usually on the money, but in this case you're so wrong.

It isn't the most talented division, that's nearly always ww to mw, but it's not shoddy. This is, probably, the best cruiser division in long time, if not ever.

If you're a boxing fan, you should get behind it. For way too long 'fans' have been whining about how the best don't fight the best. Well, here we are! Support it, or tone down the negativity.

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Post by ShockmasterV2 Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:08 am

Confirmed fights as follows, seeded fighters chose their own opponents...

Super-middleweight

George Groves v Jamie Cox

Callum Smith v Erik Skoglund

Chris Eubank Jr/Arthur Abraham v Avni Yildirim

Jurgen Brahmer v Rob Brant

Cruiserweight

Oleksandr Usyk v Marco Huck

Murat Gassiev v Krzysztof Wlodarczyk

Mairis Briedis v Mike Perez

Yunier Dorticos v Dmitry Kudryashov

Got to say, although it lacks the quality of the super 6 this is a very positive breath of fresh air for boxing in my opinion.

Finding it hard to look past Callum Smith starting some sort of legacy here, and props to Jamie Cox for giving it a go. I'll say it now this will end with Eubank JR pulling out for whatever reason.
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Post by milkyboy Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:17 am

I retract my earlier comments about being more excited by the super middles. It's hardly a who's who. Seems like they've gone down the relatively unknown with unbeaten records route. That said, I'd watch any combination of groves v smith v Eubank... just not sure about I'd be too excited about the others. Skoglund & yildrim might prove decent opposition for smith/Eubank, but wake me up in Jan/Feb for the semi's.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:36 am

http://www.boxingscene.com/huck-well-see-how-good-usyk-he-gets-with-me--118338

Great test this for Usyk for an opener you'd think Huck is tailored for him but can Marco slow him down to the body or can Usyk box a composed fight? We'll get to know more about Usyk during this one for sure

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Post by hazharrison Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:27 am

It would be great if they could roll this out through the divisions. Dorticos vs Kudryashov looks the pick of the first round bouts.

I like Gassiev at Cruiser (with Perez a live 'dog).

I think there'll be a surprise at SM. Don't fancy Groves, Eubank or Smith (think the latter's chin gets found out).

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Post by milkyboy Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:21 am

Which of the 'dogs at SM do you think is a live one Haz... can't say i've seen any of them fight.

Personally i have no opinion either way on smith's chin... don't recall seeing him in trouble... don't recall him fighting anyone who could test it either... what have you seen or is it just a hunch?


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Post by hazharrison Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:52 am

milkyboy wrote:Which of the 'dogs at SM do you think is a live one Haz... can't say i've seen any of them fight.

Personally i have no opinion either way on smith's chin... don't recall seeing him in trouble... don't recall him fighting anyone who could test it either... what have you seen or is it just a hunch?


Maybe Jamie Cox. Can't see the likes of Yildirim bothering Eubank. I know Cox looked average last time but he may just shock Groves and go on from there.

Just a hunch on Smith. Rarely do fighters of his build hold a shot well.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:30 pm

I like watching Cox has a Duran-like intensity almost like he has a screw loose. Not saying he's on the great man's level of course but when anyone comes to fight with Cox you're going to get fireworks. Cox might pick up a few losses along the way but never stops battling. He's no easy target like Chudinov if he keeps his composure this could be closer than the betting would indicate

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:08 pm

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:29 pm

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Post by Happytravelling Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:26 pm

Given the nature of boxing, close wins, 'lucky' punches, would it have been a good idea for the super series to give the 'losers' opportunity to enter into another competition, like they do in rugby 7's? A type of plate competition.

It could provide the undercard too.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:00 am

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:48 pm

Just announced Bredis V Perez will be on September 30th in Riga, Latvia. The WBC Strap on the line. Cannot wait for this really intriguing fight

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:10 pm

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Post by wheelchair1991 Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:30 pm

Groves v Cox announced for 14th October at Wembley arena

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:54 pm

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:22 am

Wonder just how many of these fights actually ARE going to be free to air it mentions just the second quarter final here so already I know I have to pay for the one I'm most looking forward to Cox vs Groves? I'm guessing none of the semis will be free to air. Wouldn't mind paying £9.99 for a few of them but if it's going to be £16.99 a pop I think I'll probably try to watch by some other means?

http://www.boxingscene.com/world-boxing-super-series-tv-itv-uk--120163

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:36 am

Hope it backfires and they don't do great sales now seriously all the quarter finals should have been free to air to generate the buzz then semis and final would have been massive with a huge audience couldn't give a sh1t about the fans these promoters the more platforms they have the more they'll try to make you pay short sighted

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:02 pm

I'm confused ITV has been announced as showing all of the super series, but this weekend's fight is not shown anywhere as far as I can see

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:11 pm

Believe it's on ITV4 mate

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