2017/18 Aviva Premiership Round Six
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2017/18 Aviva Premiership Round Six
Friday, 6th October
Harlequins vs Sale (19:45)
Saturday, 7th October
Bath vs Worcester (15:00)
Exeter vs Newcastle (15:00)
Gloucester vs Northampton (15:00)
London Irish vs Leicester (15:00)
Sunday, 8th October
Saracens vs Wasps (15:00)
You want to see the team sheets these days, to see who is fit to take the field. Then again, not all the surprises so far are down to injury lists. All these matches probably have favourites but, with the possible exception of Bath against Worcester, the season results so far mean we shouldn't be surprised to see th e other team come out on top.
Harlequins vs Sale (19:45)
Saturday, 7th October
Bath vs Worcester (15:00)
Exeter vs Newcastle (15:00)
Gloucester vs Northampton (15:00)
London Irish vs Leicester (15:00)
Sunday, 8th October
Saracens vs Wasps (15:00)
You want to see the team sheets these days, to see who is fit to take the field. Then again, not all the surprises so far are down to injury lists. All these matches probably have favourites but, with the possible exception of Bath against Worcester, the season results so far mean we shouldn't be surprised to see th e other team come out on top.
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I would consider Bath, Exeter, Leicester, Saracens clear favourites
Wasps look a bit of a mess and for all the good results Newcastle have got cant see them winning at Sandy Park.
They are playing well but this is a different level
I'd also be fairly confident of Quins
The other game very interesting and the pick for me
Wasps look a bit of a mess and for all the good results Newcastle have got cant see them winning at Sandy Park.
They are playing well but this is a different level
I'd also be fairly confident of Quins
The other game very interesting and the pick for me
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If Gloucester play like they did last week, I can't see anything else but another BP win for Saints
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I'm not confident of a Quins win! They are so frustrating to watch....
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propdavid_london wrote:I'm not confident of a Quins win! They are so frustrating to watch....
Kingston seems out of his depth with what he's getting our of your squad and his Sinckler comments.
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True but to be honest Sale haven't looked great - last weeks result apart.
As for Gloucester a very different team at home than away - already beaten Exeter this year
As for Gloucester a very different team at home than away - already beaten Exeter this year
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Quins, Bath, Exeter, Saints, Leicester, Sarries.
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He's been out of his depth from the start - sneaking a few results last season gave him a bit of breathing room. But a few more dodgy performances and the fans will turn on him again.Scottrf wrote:propdavid_london wrote:I'm not confident of a Quins win! They are so frustrating to watch....
Kingston seems out of his depth with what he's getting our of your squad and his Sinckler comments.
I agree that his comments about the Sinks incident were incredibly reactionary.
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Kingston needs glasses or he hasn't seen the video - clear contact with the eye.
Defending the indefensible puts him in a very poor light
Defending the indefensible puts him in a very poor light
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geoff999rugby wrote:True but to be honest Sale haven't looked great - last weeks result apart.
As for Gloucester a very different team at home than away - already beaten Exeter this year
Sale did look good last week, helped by three interception passes and some disinterested back three defending by Glaws. It could be a morale boosting win, same team this week and O'Connor on the bench again to offer impact and leadership. If Sale have gelled then they could revert to being a team that are very difficult to put away and then it's game on because Quins are as likely to score as concede on any given play at the minute.
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Playing at home makes a big difference.
Only away side I think will win will be Leicester but there have some funny results this time round.
Only away side I think will win will be Leicester but there have some funny results this time round.
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beshocked wrote:Playing at home makes a big difference.
People said that last week
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Surprised if Falcons took anything from this one.
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London Irish: 15 Tommy Bell, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Aseli Tikoirotuma, 12 Greig Tonks, 11 Topsy Ojo, 10 James Marshall, 9 Ben Meehan, 1 Ben Franks, 2 David Paice (c), 3 Petrus Du Plessis, 4 Franco van der Merwe, 5 Sebastian de Chaves, 6 Josh McNally, 7 Blair Cowan, 8 Jake Schatz
Replacements: 16 Todd Gleave, 17 Harry Elrington, 18 Ollie Hoskins, 19 Teofilo Paulo, 20 Lasha Lomidze, 21 Scott Steele, 22 Theo Brophy Clews, 23 Tom Fowlie
Replacements: 16 Todd Gleave, 17 Harry Elrington, 18 Ollie Hoskins, 19 Teofilo Paulo, 20 Lasha Lomidze, 21 Scott Steele, 22 Theo Brophy Clews, 23 Tom Fowlie
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15 Ahsee Tuala
14 George North
13 Luther Burrell
12 Piers Francis
11 Tom Collins
10 Harry Mallinder
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller
2 Dylan Hartley (capt)
3 Kieran Brookes
4 Michael Paterson
5 David Ribbans
6 Jamie Gibson
7 Teimana Harrison
8 Sam Dickinson
16 Mikey Haywood
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Jamal Ford-Robinson
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Courtney Lawes
21 Alex Mitchell
22 Stephen Myler
23 Ben Foden
Very interesting lineup.
14 George North
13 Luther Burrell
12 Piers Francis
11 Tom Collins
10 Harry Mallinder
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller
2 Dylan Hartley (capt)
3 Kieran Brookes
4 Michael Paterson
5 David Ribbans
6 Jamie Gibson
7 Teimana Harrison
8 Sam Dickinson
16 Mikey Haywood
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Jamal Ford-Robinson
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Courtney Lawes
21 Alex Mitchell
22 Stephen Myler
23 Ben Foden
Very interesting lineup.
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Leicester Tigers (v London Irish, away, Saturday 3.00pm)
15 Telusa Veainu
14 Nick Malouf
13 Gareth Owen
12 Matt Toomua
11 Jonny May
10 George Ford (c)
9 Sam Harrison
1 Greg Bateman
2 George McGuigan
3 Dan Cole
4 Dan Tuohy
5 Dom Barrow
6 Sione Kalamafoni
7 Will Evans
8 Valentino Mapapalangi
Replacements
16 Tom Youngs
17 Ellis Genge
18 Patrick Cilliers
19 Harry Wells
20 Luke Hamilton
21 Ben Youngs
22 Joe Ford
23 Mathew Tait
15 Telusa Veainu
14 Nick Malouf
13 Gareth Owen
12 Matt Toomua
11 Jonny May
10 George Ford (c)
9 Sam Harrison
1 Greg Bateman
2 George McGuigan
3 Dan Cole
4 Dan Tuohy
5 Dom Barrow
6 Sione Kalamafoni
7 Will Evans
8 Valentino Mapapalangi
Replacements
16 Tom Youngs
17 Ellis Genge
18 Patrick Cilliers
19 Harry Wells
20 Luke Hamilton
21 Ben Youngs
22 Joe Ford
23 Mathew Tait
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We're going to need to play very well to get anything this weekend. Good to see Tonks getting the start at 12 as he has been very good there when coming off the bench, but this is our 5th different centre pairing in 6 games so far this season, so whether it's going to gel or not is open to debate.
Petrus is lucky to keep the starting jersey as Ollie Hoskins has done well of the bench so far as well.
Petrus is lucky to keep the starting jersey as Ollie Hoskins has done well of the bench so far as well.
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Good bit of rotation. Evans deserves his chance and Smith needed a break after his defensive heroics in recent weeks. Need to get Dan Cole off on half time or fifty minutes so he gets a little breather and Cilliers can get some minutes under the belt.
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I was surprised with the LI scrum Oz, I thought it would be stronger. I think it's the first time we've had parity all season last week.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I was surprised with the LI scrum Oz, I thought it would be stronger. I think it's the first time we've had parity all season last week.
We were a lot stronger there before Hobbs-Awoyemi got injured and we've had to switch Franks to the loosehead side. I know he can and has played there, but he's been with us for 2 years and only played tighthead. du Plessis, apart from in the opening game against Quins has also not scrummaged brilliantly. I'm surprised he's starting this week.
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Newcastle Falcons team to face Exeter Chiefs (Saturday, 3pm, Sandy Park)
15 Alex Tait
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Chris Harris
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Craig Willis
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Trevor Davison
2 Santiago Socino
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Nili Latu
Replacements
16 Kyle Cooper
17 Rob Vickers
18 Jake Ilnicki
19 Sean Robinson
20 Ally Hogg
21 Sam Stuart
22 Toby Flood
23 Josh Matavesi
15 Alex Tait
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Chris Harris
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Craig Willis
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Trevor Davison
2 Santiago Socino
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Nili Latu
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16 Kyle Cooper
17 Rob Vickers
18 Jake Ilnicki
19 Sean Robinson
20 Ally Hogg
21 Sam Stuart
22 Toby Flood
23 Josh Matavesi
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Glad to see Toby Flood finally makes the 23 and a start at loosehead for Blaydon's Trevor Davison.
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Saints team looks interesting, Francis starting at 12, Mallinder still at 10 despite Myler being fit. Could be interchangeable, but I can't see how it is going to work.
Good to see Lawes getting a bit of rest, even if he is on the bench.
Feel a bit sorry for Ludlam, I thought he has looked very good when he has played. Lawes could have had a proper rest as both Gibson and Harrison can play across the back row.
Good to see Lawes getting a bit of rest, even if he is on the bench.
Feel a bit sorry for Ludlam, I thought he has looked very good when he has played. Lawes could have had a proper rest as both Gibson and Harrison can play across the back row.
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Ahh so Flood is going to finally make an appearance.
Glad Willis is continued at FH as I think he's way better than Hodgson.
Ill be happy with a losing bonus point if we can get one....but I expect a defeat.
However i just want to add...I really want to see us going at Exeter. Playing the high tempo offloading game that we can play.
Glad Willis is continued at FH as I think he's way better than Hodgson.
Ill be happy with a losing bonus point if we can get one....but I expect a defeat.
However i just want to add...I really want to see us going at Exeter. Playing the high tempo offloading game that we can play.
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Well the quality has been dreadful first 10 minutes.
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The Care kick is lovely but Robshaw was 100% holding on and should have been pinged after falling on the ball.
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Having so many players on their feet in defence is only good if you're going to get off the line and pressure the opposition. Quins are winning all the collisions and are finding it too easy to achieve gain line success. Sale have to get after their half backs and hang on to the ball themselves if they wants some points.
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Was a bit annoyed at Care forcing things too much at first but Sale's defence is so flaky it's working.
Dislocated shoulder for Clifford![Sad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
Matthews seems to be going backwards, terrible hands and fitness is dreadful.
Dislocated shoulder for Clifford
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Matthews seems to be going backwards, terrible hands and fitness is dreadful.
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Marcus Smith is just ridiculous for 18.
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Scottrf wrote:Marcus Smith is just ridiculous for 18.
He's got what you can't coach, the instinct and speed of thought to make correct decisions reliably.
Really promising, his boot and skills seem to just be getting better.
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Care has tried the golden pass too often he just needs patience and the slow Sale defence is giving up easy yards. Sale defence coach should be going crazy, Quins have an age on the ball whilst Sale have so many defenders on their feet. They have to start using those numbers to blitz Quins playmakers.
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He's creating though...
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That lineout is not straight but Care has an age to put that kick in. Who is in charge of the Sale defence and why do they still have a job?
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Say what you like about Visser, the man knows how to put away chances. Care's boot has been spot on as well.
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mid_gen wrote:Say what you like about Visser, the man knows how to put away chances. Care's boot has been spot on as well.
There's so much space to aim at though because Sale are defending like a league team. Everyone is in the line. There's no pendulum system and no sweeper. You can't do that and have the line speed of a geriatric prop.
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I think any team with ambition should be disappointed to not get 10 points vs Sale. They have some good pace in the back 3 but if you cut out silly errors they have nothing but mistakes.
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But apparently teams can't cut out the silly errors...
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Scottrf wrote:I think any team with ambition should be disappointed to not get 10 points vs Sale. They have some good pace in the back 3 but if you cut out silly errors they have nothing but mistakes.
There's plenty of talent there. The tactics are shocking. Away from home why are you playing wide and in your own half? How can you not compete at the breakdown but have no line speed?
Sale have barely been in the game but have three tries. The players can play. Too many league coaches at Sale?
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Is it really necessary to keep rewatching a bit of handbags ?
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What an over reaction for some handbags.
Kicking the ball put of the 9s hands was a worse offence was wrse than anything that occurred in the scrap.
Kicking the ball put of the 9s hands was a worse offence was wrse than anything that occurred in the scrap.
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Players dropping out ![Sad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
Youngs out for harrison, still happy with him.
Veianu out for tait, tait is passed it now
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Youngs out for harrison, still happy with him.
Veianu out for tait, tait is passed it now
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Think Irish could take this
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As just mentioned we're missing our main defensive leaders and still haven't sorted out how to fix it ...
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Oh and no big Trev and our new winger already out with a broken arm ...
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And a far from ideal position with regards to our props ...
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Just have a feeling about this game, we've rested a few players too
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Well there we go - although I thought there should have been a pen for the previous ruck with Tigers straight in from the side ...
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Heaf2 wrote:Well there we go - although I thought there should have been a pen for the previous ruck with Tigers straight in from the side ...
Should of been a pen and poss yellow for the Irish player not releasing next to his own line
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