Glasgow vs Edinburgh - 1872 Cup (leg 2 of 3)

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 8:14 am

Sat 30 Dec 17
KO: 15:15
Venue: Scotstoun Stadium
Coverage - Sky Sports Main Event & Sky Sports Action: 15:00

Sky Sports Main Event
Sky Sports Action

Referee: Mike Adamson (SRU, 17th competition game)
AR1: Sam Grove-White (SRU). AR2: Keith Allen (SRU)
TMO: Neil Patterson (SRU)

Teams:

Glasgow
15. Ruaridh Jackson (127)
14. Lee Jones (66)
13. Nick Grigg (32)
12. Alex Dunbar (106)
11. Niko Matawalu (85)
10. Finn Russell (73)
9. Ali Price (51)

1. Jamie Bhatti (19)
2. Fraser Brown (70)
3. Zander Fagerson (61)
4. Kiran McDonald (5)
5. Jonny Gray (80) CAPTAIN
6. Robert Harley (171)
7. Matt Smith (11)
8. Matt Fagerson (14)

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur (163)
17. Oli Kebble (3)
18. Siua Halanukonuka (5)
19. Greg Peterson (23)
20. Chris Fusaro (130)
21. George Horne (10)
22. Peter Horne (128)
23. Huw Jones (2)

Edinburgh

15. Blair Kinghorn (56)
14. Damien Hoyland (54)
13. James Johnstone (12)
12. Phil Burleigh (67)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (4)
10. Jaco van der Walt (4)
9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (97)

1. Murray McCallum (29)
2. Stuart McInally (112) CAPTAIN
3. Matt Shields (3)
4. Ben Toolis (79)
5. Grant Gilchrist (110)
6. Jamie Ritchie (41)
7. Hamish Watson (78)
8. Viliame Mata (24)

Replacements: 16. Neil Cochrane (64); 17. Jordan Lay *; 18. Elliot Millar-Mills *; 19. Fraser McKenzie (91); 20. Cornell du Preez (93); 21. Nathan Fowles (46); 22. Chris Dean (55); 23. Darcy Graham (3)

Return leg of the 1872 cup, will Edinburgh win the trophy in this game, or will Glasgow make the final game of the trilogy mean something.

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 10:28 am

Snow is coming down pretty hard in Edinburgh just now, any word on what it's like through in the west and how does Scotstoun cope with snow?

by **BigGee** Fri 29 Dec 2017, 11:24 am

The pitch should be fine, they can just sweep the snow off. It will be the roads around the ground and the approaches to the stadium that will put the knockers on the game.

Must be a bit iffy as it stands. What is the forecast in Glasgow going forward?

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 11:29 am

In terms of the pitch I don't know what exactly it's made of, but if it's anything like Hamilton's synthetic pitch then it's not necessarily the snow that's the issue. It's the frozen ground under the snow, as that seems to be more problematic for those types of pitches than grass.

I assume Glasgow is pretty snowy just now, as the airport has been having issues today.

by **BigGee** Fri 29 Dec 2017, 11:38 am

Just looked at the forecast and it does warm up tomorrow with heavy rain due as well, which should get rid of the snow from the pitch.

The snow should be past by lunch time and then it stays cold until the middle of the night before slowly creeping up to 7 degrees by mid afternoon.

Still going to be a sh*ty day, but if they hold their nerve and don't call it early, then they may be able to get the match played.

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 11:56 am

both teams are up, I've no idea how to paste a tweet into here, but strong looking sides from both

by **BigGee** Fri 29 Dec 2017, 11:58 am

15. Ruaridh Jackson (127)
14. Lee Jones (66)
13. Nick Grigg (32)
12. Alex Dunbar (106)
11. Niko Matawalu (85)
10. Finn Russell (73)
9. Ali Price (51)

1. Jamie Bhatti (19)
2. Fraser Brown (70)
3. Zander Fagerson (61)
4. Kiran McDonald (5)
5. Jonny Gray (80) CAPTAIN
6. Robert Harley (171)
7. Matt Smith (11)
8. Matt Fagerson (14)

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur (163)
17. Oli Kebble (3)
18. Siua Halanukonuka (5)
19. Greg Peterson (23)
20. Chris Fusaro (130)
21. George Horne (10)
22. Peter Horne (128)
23. Huw Jones (2)

a few players coming back for Glasgow but no Gibbins yet.

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm

Glasgow vs Edinburgh - 1872 Cup (leg 2 of 3) DSNiUMAX0AA8wc9

Nailed it!

Loving the look of the backrow

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 12:09 pm

Glasgow site wrote:Dave Rennie has made five changes to the Glasgow Warriors starting XV which lost 18-17 to Edinburgh Rugby at BT Murrayfield last Saturday, for tomorrow’s second 1872 Cup match at a sold-out Scotstoun Stadium.Nick Grigg returns to the Glasgow Warriors side to play Edinburgh

Nick Grigg, Niko Matawalu, Finn Russell, Kiran McDonald and Matt Fagerson come in, with the latter returning from injury having last played in the win against Leinster at the start of November.

Ruaridh Jackson continues at full-back, with Lee Jones and Niko Matawalu on either wing. Nick Grigg and Alex Dunbar combine in midfield, while Finn Russell and Ali Price link-up at half-back.

The front-row remains unchanged with Jamie Bhatti, Fraser Brown and Zander Fagerson packing down. Kiran McDonald comes into the second-row and partners captain Jonny Gray in the engine room.

Matt Fagerson comes in to start at Number 8, with Rob Harley and Matt Smith continuing on either flank.

Lock Greg Peterson and scrum-half George Horne are named amongst the replacements, having been added to the match day 23.

Glasgow Warriors head coach Dave Rennie said: “It was a substandard performance last Saturday and we were hugely disappointed. We had so many opportunities to put them out of it and we didn’t and they hurt us at the end.

“We know we have a lot of genuine support out there and we’re disappointed we put in a performance like that over Christmas. We need to be better on Saturday and we certainly want to give the supporters a lot more to sing about than we did last week.”

Glasgow Warriors team to play Edinburgh Rugby in the 1872 Cup, Guinness PRO14, live on Sky Sports, kick-off 3.15pm. You can also follow the action on Twitter @GlasgowWarriors. Glasgow Warriors appearances in brackets:
15. Ruaridh Jackson (127)
14. Lee Jones (66)
13. Nick Grigg (32)
12. Alex Dunbar (106)
11. Niko Matawalu (85)
10. Finn Russell (73)
9. Ali Price (51)

1. Jamie Bhatti (19)
2. Fraser Brown (70)
3. Zander Fagerson (61)
4. Kiran McDonald (5)
5. Jonny Gray (80) CAPTAIN
6. Robert Harley (171)
7. Matt Smith (11)
8. Matt Fagerson (14)

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur (163)
17. Oli Kebble (3)
18. Siua Halanukonuka (5)
19. Greg Peterson (23)
20. Chris Fusaro (130)
21. George Horne (10)
22. Peter Horne (128)
23. Huw Jones (2)

Not available due to injury: Brian Alainu’uise (knee), Adam Ashe (ankle), Callum Gibbins (achilles), Stuart Hogg (hip), Paddy Kelly (Achilles), Tommy Seymour (foot), Rory Hughes (shoulder), Sam Johnson (jaw), Lelia Masaga (knee), Leo Sarto (shoulder), Tim Swinson (hand), Ratu Tagive (achilles) and Ryan Wilson (ankle).

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 12:11 pm

Edinburgh site wrote:Edinburgh Head Coach Richard Cockerill has named his side for this weekend’s 1872 Cup second leg against Glasgow Warriors at Scotstoun Stadium (Saturday 30 December, kick-off 3.15pm) – live on Sky Sports.

The team selection includes just four changes to the side that recorded a dramatic victory in the first leg at BT Murrayfield last weekend.

Damien Hoyland is the only alteration to an otherwise unchanged back three. The winger – who scored a terrific solo effort in last season’s corresponding fixture – joins Duhan van der Merwe on the wing, whilst Blair Kinghorn continues at full back.

In the midfield, James Johnstone – who last week penned a permanent two-year deal with the club – links up with the experienced Phil Burleigh. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne and Jaco van der Walt continue their half-back partnership.

In the front row, Matt Shields replaces the suspended Simon Berghan. The tight head will pack down alongside Murray McCallum and Stuart McInally, who once again skippers the side.

The experienced pairing of Grant Gilchrist and Ben Toolis form a skilled second-row, whilst Hamish Watson and Viliame Mata link up with Jamie Ritchie – an impact substitute in last weekend’s victory over the same opponent – in the back-row.

On his selection, Cockerill said: "The players showed a great deal of passion and desire in last weekend's victory over Glasgow and we will need the same levels of commitment if we are to come away with a positive result at Scotstoun this weekend.

"We know how tough an opposition Glasgow are, especially at home, but I know the squad will be ready for the battle."

Edinburgh team to face Glasgow Warriors in the Guinness PRO14 at Scotstoun Stadium on Saturday 30 December (kick-off 3.15pm) – live on Sky Sports

15. Blair Kinghorn (56)

14. Damien Hoyland (54)

13. James Johnstone (12)

12. Phil Burleigh (67)

11. Duhan van der Merwe (4)

10. Jaco van der Walt (4)

9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (97)

1. Murray McCallum (29)

2. Stuart McInally (112) CAPTAIN

3. Matt Shields (3)

4. Ben Toolis (79)

5. Grant Gilchrist (110)

6. Jamie Ritchie (41)

7. Hamish Watson (78)

8. Viliame Mata (24)

Replacements: 16. Neil Cochrane (64); 17. Jordan Lay *; 18. Elliot Millar-Mills *; 19. Fraser McKenzie (91); 20. Cornell du Preez (93); 21. Nathan Fowles (46); 22. Chris Dean (55); 23. Darcy Graham (3)

by jimbopip Fri 29 Dec 2017, 12:51 pm

It's Jake The Peg's Middle Leg and someone will get a dicking. Shocked

1. Jamie Bhatti (19)
2. Fraser Brown (70)
3. Zander Fagerson (61)

versus

1. Murray McCallum (29)

2. Stuart McInally (112) CAPTAIN

3. Matt Shields (3)

Should be a no contest. The Glasgow replacement front row is, if anything, much bigger and better than the Luvvies fifth choice front row who will be not much more than cannon fodder.

Half-backs should be an interesting battle; Sam the Spaniard looked quite "tasty" (as they say in Essex) last week and van der Walt Disney was impressive in a typically belligerent Saffer way. However, Dancer is back with a point to prove and if he gets better ball then Horne was provided with then I can see him running the show.

6. Robert Harley (171)
7. Matt Smith (11)
8. Matt Fagerson (14)

Could be handed a real lesson by

6. Jamie Ritchie (41)

7. Hamish Watson (78)

8. Viliame Mata (24)

and I think the game may well be decided here.
Harley cannot be as anonymous as he was last week and if Fagerson2 is fit he could provide the dynamism which was conspicuously absent last week. However, that is some back row for the Luvvies and could set the tone for the whole game.

Glasgow's bench looks much stronger and the MFL front five will struggle from the off. God help them when the front rows change over and Oscar Peterson adds his bulk in the second row. Horne, Horne and Jones coming on as the game opens up must be a scary prospect for all Luvvie fans.

I'm thinking that Glasgow get their revenge, but just to be sure can we play twelve a side and leave the back rows at home?

by **RDW** Fri 29 Dec 2017, 1:56 pm

Glasgow's selection doesn't give me any more concerns than it did last week, whereas Edinburgh's propping situation has become even more dire that our reserves are a Samoan who has just arrived off the plane and someone who I'm assuming is in the academy as I've never heard of him. Good of the team announcement to explain who he is...

If it is going to be wet and minging there will be a lot of scrums - that could make the difference in the game.

Glasgow by 10!

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 2:00 pm

I assume you mean Elliott Millar-Mills RDW? If so he signed about a month ago, there was a press release and everything

http://www.edinburghrugby.org/news/17/11/21/news-millar-mills-joins-squad-south-africa

From the link above wrote:Scotish-qualified prop, Elliot Millar-Mills, has joined the club from Yorkshire Carnegie to provide cover at tight-head for the remainder of the season.

The 25-year-old brother of Scotland Women’s internationalist Bridget and England Women’s cap Harriet, Millar-Mills qualifies to play for Scotland through his mother Elspeth who is from Hamilton.

The 5ft 10in, 121kg prop flew out to South Africa with the Edinburgh squad as they prepare to take on the Cheetahs in their first Guinness PRO14 fixture in the Southern Hemisphere on Friday evening (kick-off 7.30pm local time / 5.30pm GMT, live on BBC ALBA).

On joining the capital club, he said: “I’m really excited to join at such a crucial time for the club - there are some really big games over the coming weeks. I’m learning a lot from Richard Cockerill, Roddy Grant and the other players, so for now I’m just soaking up as much as I can and working hard in training to try and earn a spot in this team.”

Cockerill added: “Elliot is a good young player and will provide cover in the front row for the rest of the season. I’m looking forward to seeing how he gets on in the months ahead.”

by **RDW** Fri 29 Dec 2017, 2:02 pm

Thanks - so many random props have signed for the club lately it is hard to keep up!

I'm assuming Kevin Bryce's career is almost over assuming he's not injured. I bet he's delighted he made the switch to prop...

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 2:07 pm

I know what you mean, we are taking a lot of props on loan this season.

You're probably right about Bryce, the move to TH has basically killed his career. He could have been a semi competent hooker, but he didn't really seem keen to become a TH, or move to Edinburgh, so I guess he wasn't exactly motivated to learn the new position.

When his contract is up I imagine he'll be let go.

by VinceWLB Fri 29 Dec 2017, 3:19 pm

Bryce should have switched to LH instead. Hooker to LH is easier than Hooker to TH. He must have a very big ego if he thought he was going to succeed at this level at 3..

I don't think it's going to be the one sided affair everyone is predicting at scrum time (simply because Glasgow aren't a very good scrumming side). Still, i will be delighted if Edinburgh can get a LBP from this.

by EWT Spoons Fri 29 Dec 2017, 3:48 pm

I don't think it was his choice. I think he was told to move to TH because of the lack of options Scotland had at the time.

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 11:23 am

Apparently Jonny Gray has barely trained all week - he may be a late fitness call for Rennie.

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 11:47 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Apparently Jonny Gray has barely trained all week - he may be a late fitness call for Rennie.

I sincerely hope we don't see Rennie in the second row.
Peterson to start, Harley covering 4 and 5 and Richie V on the bench covering;6,7,8,12,13,15.
So nothing to worry about. Erm

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 12:23 pm

jimbopip wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Apparently Jonny Gray has barely trained all week - he may be a late fitness call for Rennie.

I sincerely hope we don't see Rennie in the second row.
Peterson to start, Harley covering 4 and 5 and Richie V on the bench covering;6,7,8,12,13,15.
So nothing to worry about.

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 12:49 pm

Actually, His Richieness could also cover 1&3 against the Luvvies under 13's who are on the bench.

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 2:49 pm

Late change to the Glasgow squad.....

Alex Allan replaces Ollie Kebble. For a big man he picks up a lot of knocks.

This means, surely, that Wee Jonny is fit to play. Yahoo

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 2:51 pm

....and I'm less terrified about scrums later and in the game!

by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sat 30 Dec 2017, 3:37 pm

~~Does anyone have a link for the game?~~

Found one.

by tigertattie Sat 30 Dec 2017, 3:49 pm

Halftime update?

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 3:59 pm

3-0 Glasgow approaching half time. Sounds like a game for the purists!

by Eejit Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:00 pm

Right, which one of you has been having a cigarette in the loos?

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:01 pm

And the feckin fire alarm has gone off calling the ref to halt the game....

by cakeordeath Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:02 pm

My money is on a warriors supporter (or Dave Rennie) pulling the alarm, just so they don't have to suffer through this dross

by cakeordeath Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:02 pm

Also sky reporting it as a "security evacuation"

Never mind they were talking out their hoop. Fire alarm in one of the stands

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:03 pm

So how's the actual game been?

by cakeordeath Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:07 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:So how's the actual game been?

Like last week only worse....much much worse

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:17 pm

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:~~Does anyone have a link for the game?~~

Found one.

Simply, if it's reliable could you pm it to me?
Ta muchly. Hug

by tigertattie Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:17 pm

Oooo. Quinns vs Northampton on C5.

Visser just pulled into touch after a nice wee intercept

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:23 pm

Game has been called half time on 38 minutes with 2nd half starting at half 4 - good to see some common sense

by Eejit Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:29 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Game has been called half time on 38 minutes with 2nd half starting at half 4 - good to see some common sense

Yes indeed. Twitter is full of people complaining about the remaining two minutes.

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:33 pm

Fire alarm in the North Stand. chin

Who do we know has a season ticket in the North Stand? warning

by tigertattie Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:37 pm

Is it too soon to say that this game needs something to "ignite" it?

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:51 pm

Sounds like kinghorn has made a few good breaks?

by Hazel Sapling Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:53 pm

Well we got to the light at the end of the tunnel with the restart.

Brown out cold. What is it about his head that requires contact during every game? Is it a beacon?

Kinghorn has been good...when he has gotten his hands on the ball

by VinceWLB Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:55 pm

Ridiculous penalty call.

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 4:55 pm

Have Edinburgh been turning down kicks at goal? Strange to be on 0 in such a close game

by VinceWLB Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:14 pm

Got to be the softest obstruction i have ever seen..

Terrible game, even worse refereeing..

by **RDW** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:16 pm

Adamson had been bloody awful whenever I've seen his games

by Hazel Sapling Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:21 pm

Looking at Kinghorn and Jackson, there is some depth at 15. Hogg is still such a class above. He would have a try in this game

by VinceWLB Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:27 pm

Well Edinburgh didn't deserve anything out of this..

3rd leg should be interesting!

by jimbopip Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:31 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Have Edinburgh been turning down kicks at goal? Strange to be on 0 in such a close game

Glasgow didn't give away any kickable penalties while the Luvvies conceded about 25 in all to my reckoning, with a fair few of them in kickable range. I think that is a fair reflection of the game: Glasgow won comfortably but never really looked like scoring too many tries.

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Dec 2017, 5:33 pm

Am at work and have not seen the game yet, but it does not sound like a classic.

Still a win is a win, even if Glasgow do seem to have lost their way a bit over the past few games. Good to seen we can at least grind one out when we have to.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun 31 Dec 2017, 5:15 pm

Forwards esp the front row worked very hard all match Zander deserving of MoM . Smith and M Fagerson have the look of 2 future internationals.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun 31 Dec 2017, 5:17 pm

jimbopip wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Have Edinburgh been turning down kicks at goal? Strange to be on 0 in such a close game

Glasgow didn't give away any kickable penalties while the Luvvies conceded about 25 in all to my reckoning, with a fair few of them in kickable range. I think that is a fair reflection of the game: Glasgow won comfortably but never really looked like scoring too many tries.

Jimbo

Mark Palmer in the ST reckoned the Luvvies conceded 26 pens - so one of you is wrong. Rolling Eyes

Very poor discipline by Edinburgh over both these matches.

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