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6N 2018: Scotland v England, 24 February
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SCOTLAND v ENGLAND
24 February 2018
KO: 16:45 GMT
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on [Old BBC Colonial]
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Assistant 2: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
TMO: Simon McDowell (Ireland)
A. Head to Head
135 Played 135
42 Won 75
18 Drawn 18
75 Lost 42
1,162 Points 1,623
B. Recent Form
2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England
8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England
14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England
6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England
11 March 2017
Twickenham, London
61 – 21 to England
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
Hogg, Seymour, Jones, Horne, Maitland, Russell, Laidlaw; Reid, McInally, Berghan, Gilchrist, J Gray, Barclay (capt), Watson, Wilson.
Replacements: Lawson, J Bhatti, WP Nel, Swinson, Denton, Price, Grigg, Kinghorn.
ENGLAND
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, May, Ford, Care; M Vunipola, Hartley (capt), Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Hughes.
Replacements: George, Marler, Williams, G Kruis (Saracens), Underhill, Wigglesworth, B Te'o, J Nowell.
SCOTLAND v ENGLAND
24 February 2018
KO: 16:45 GMT
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on [Old BBC Colonial]
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Assistant 2: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
TMO: Simon McDowell (Ireland)
A. Head to Head
135 Played 135
42 Won 75
18 Drawn 18
75 Lost 42
1,162 Points 1,623
B. Recent Form
2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England
8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England
14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England
6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England
11 March 2017
Twickenham, London
61 – 21 to England
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
Hogg, Seymour, Jones, Horne, Maitland, Russell, Laidlaw; Reid, McInally, Berghan, Gilchrist, J Gray, Barclay (capt), Watson, Wilson.
Replacements: Lawson, J Bhatti, WP Nel, Swinson, Denton, Price, Grigg, Kinghorn.
ENGLAND
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, May, Ford, Care; M Vunipola, Hartley (capt), Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Hughes.
Replacements: George, Marler, Williams, G Kruis (Saracens), Underhill, Wigglesworth, B Te'o, J Nowell.
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Huge call Townsend taking Laidlaw off!
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England absolutely getting the wrong end of every possible bad call. And most bounces. Funny how often that seems to happen (ie I freely admit the bounces and the 50/50s have favoured England more than once in close games during this great run since EJ took over as coach).
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Scotland starting to flap...I see an England interception coming...
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This is where I feel England's replacements will have more impact than Scotland's. Scotland will have to play a lot of phases to keep England at bay.
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That was such a stupid penalty from Lawes
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That is one of the dullest things on a rugby pitch you will ever see from Lawes.
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22-6 at halftime.
Can England do a Leinster comeback?
Can England do a Leinster comeback?
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What a time for kinghorn to get his first cap!
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poor by lawes. brain fart
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mid_gen wrote:Complete baffled by Owens' breakdown. Why are only Scotland allowed to compete? England are immediately told to stay out or it's lost.
And why are they allowed to pick the ball up after a ruck has been formed?
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big 20 mins for teo too
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England have been totally bossed today and deserve to lose, but the ref has refereed the breakdown very differently for both teams. Scotland cam compete longer and hold on for longer?
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Let's see if Uncle Eddie maintains his line about "the TMO decisions must be respected" in his post match interview
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England will lose this and lose to Ireland.
Hopefully that will be a valuable learning experience.
Hopefully that will be a valuable learning experience.
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Other stupid England penalty
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Underhill could be in trouble here.
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This is it, can Scotland hang on now our bench is in play. They've been faster and more physical so far, but Underhill has helped turn the tide.
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[quote="mid_gen"]Scotland starting to flap...I see an England interception coming...[/quots.
Relax: Nasty Nige will go upstairs to try to scrub it off, the mood he's in today.
Relax: Nasty Nige will go upstairs to try to scrub it off, the mood he's in today.
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No arms tackle from two players!
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That could be the game
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England playing like total idiot's. do not deserve to win.
Scotland have been the far better team today.
Scotland have been the far better team today.
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Well played Scotland. Definitely deserved. Bossed the breakdown and punished us kicking away too much.
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That’s that then.
We needed a wake up call.
Well played Scotland great performance
We needed a wake up call.
Well played Scotland great performance
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Stop kicking it away for Frak sake
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Captain Barclay.
Joint motm with jones imo
Joint motm with jones imo
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That was very very dull of Underhill. Probably the action that nails it for Scotland. And Owens is now making sure England defenders stay 3-5 mrtres behind the ball. And penalising timely release in the ruck. this is getting ridiculous now.
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Once again Scotland are allowed to compete for the ball yet England are told to leave it straight away!
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Eugh. That should be the game.
This England team know how to scrape out a win though, not giving up hope yet.
Not helping that Scotland are being allowed to sit a yard or two offside.
This England team know how to scrape out a win though, not giving up hope yet.
Not helping that Scotland are being allowed to sit a yard or two offside.
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awful. scots players standing in front of breakdown. not even part of it. blocking
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Owens breakdown refereeing has been odd to say the least
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Composure and discipline have killed England today, very unlike them under Jones.
Fair play to Scotland though, they really played well in the first half and defended excellently in the second.
Fair play to Scotland though, they really played well in the first half and defended excellently in the second.
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yes scotland have been very good. england chose to let them play and have possession first half. big mistake.
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That was very very dull of Underhill. Probably the action that nails it for Scotland. Why is Owens now making England defenders stay 3-5 mrtres behind the ball? And penalising timely release in the ruck. This is getting ridiculous now. Problem is if you play like d1cks in the first 40, and concede a few dumb pens, the ref only has one eye from then on.
All that said, Scotland have played really really well and deserve it thoroughly.
All that said, Scotland have played really really well and deserve it thoroughly.
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Scotland the better team for sure.
Can't help but feel that every breakdown Owens is watching and waiting to see if he can either award Scotland a penalty or tell England not to compete.
Can't help but feel that every breakdown Owens is watching and waiting to see if he can either award Scotland a penalty or tell England not to compete.
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England fans blaming the ref? Surely not? Thought it was only the Welsh who did that?
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SimonofSurrey wrote:That was very very dull of Underhill. Probably the action that nails it for Scotland. Why is Owens now making England defenders stay 3-5 metres behind the ball? And penalising timely release in the ruck. This is getting ridiculous now. Problem is if you play like d1cks in the first 40, and concede a few dumb pens, the ref only has one eye from then on.
All that said, Scotland have played really really well and deserve it thoroughly.
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This defeat and the impending one to Ireland will be huge learning experiences in the quest for the world cup
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well the breakdown has been a mess. and it has favoured scotland. but that is not why the score is what it is. scotland have been very good.tatterd wrote:England fans blaming the ref? Surely not? Thought it was only the Welsh who did that?
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High tackles allowed now
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Hurray penalty
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How is that supporting his weight????????
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tatterd wrote:England fans blaming the ref? Surely not? Thought it was only the Welsh who did that?
Not at all. I think you'll find the English here are saying Scottland deserve to win. What's galling is Nigel O - who's a class act - having a real off day.
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Instead of blaming the ref how about the fact our technique has been fantastic and England have been far too slow to the breakdown?
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and how was that supporting his own weight? terrible
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clearly better first half. better suited to owens second halfRDW_Scotland wrote:Instead of blaming the ref how about the fact our technique has been fantastic and England have been far too slow to the breakdown?
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Well played Scotland well deserved winners.
England need to take a good look at themselves
England need to take a good look at themselves
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TightHEAD wrote:How is that supporting his weight????????
His head is made of some sort of anti-gravity material allowing his feet to be further back that his hips somehow?
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What a win Scotland, well done
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Congratulations Scotland
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