New FIFA based Challenge League

First topic message reminder :

The Challenge League is coming to the end of season 3 and preparing for a reboot as we move on to FIFA 19. We are spreading word to see who is interested in playing.

In short, you buy and sell players, build a squad, then pick a team/tactics to play matches that are simulated on FIFA19 (CPU v CPU). The games are streamed live on Twitch, so you can also watch your games (and other teams for scouting purposes!!) each week.

Think Football Manager, but with the game engine being FIFA 19.

Players can be traded within the league with other managers, but each week you will also get randomly generated offers for two of your players. On top of this, you also get to buy two players from out of the league each week.

All player valuations are done based on the TM website http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/detailsuche/spielerdetail/suche.
Players values are frozen at the start of each season so that their value remains unchanged throughout that season. All offers from outside the league are based on the frozen value, and all purchases of players outside the league are based on the current TM value.

If you want to know a bit more, have a look here:

https://www.606v2.com/f265-the-miky-challenge-league
https://www.606v2.com/t66501-challenge-league-rules

We have the final week of the existing game still to play, so you can also take a look on Twitch to get a feel for it.

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

The new league will start with a low level of players and build, with FIFA 19 rating caps. The aim is that these caps will increase each season so that the league grows with them. We also plan to move on to each new version of FIFA, each year, which offers the options of buying for future potential too!

At the moment, it looks like being League 2 teams, with some degree of a mini-draft to start shaping your side. Budgets and ratings cap will then be set to what is appropriate to the teams we have in the league.

This page is to gauge interest, so please sign up below.

Signed Up
1. Afro
2. Hero
3. Fluxy
4. Olly
5. Bam
6. Marky
7. Nadz
8. TAB
9. Azzy
10. Ska
11. Twist
12. Soddy
69. Trebs
14. Rof
15. Nando
16. Dolph

Think I’ll wait until I know my team before scouting and nominating for draft.

Are we getting a 16th manager

We should. Contingency could be 1 CPU Manager until a 16th Manager comes along.

Yes, another one of the JA managers said he'd sign up but is just taking his sweet time about it. I think he mentioned the formatting on mobile.

The formatting on mobile is horrible. But you can change to web view which is much better.

But for some reason it’s started to switch back to App view after only a few days.

Also, how do I get the site to stop sending me emails every time there's a reply? I keep clicking "Stop watching" but it keeps coming back!

$ka wrote:I'm nominating Harrison Reed, Trevoh Chalobah and Andre Dozzell because I haven't bothered scouting outside the Championship yet.

You an Ip5w1ch fan Ska?

That should do. Have a word with Hero. He’s omnipotent on this site, so may be able to sort it.

Nah, I'm a Blackburn fan but I don't want to get sucked into just signing all the young Rovers players

$ka wrote:Nah, I'm a Blackburn fan but I don't want to get sucked into just signing all the young Rovers players

Bradley Dack is bae

Agreed 100%, I'd marry him if it kept him at Ewood

Any sign of a 16th manager?

If not, can we have one CPU managed team i.e. they use default FIFA team and tactics each week, with no injuries and their players can't be bought

The guy on ja who said he would sign up is in Taiwan atm, I've been pestering him a bit

Ah fair enough.

Was thinking we could allocate teams tomorrow.

I’ll do the 16th slot if you need. Ive definitely got the time

So this is what I make the 16 teams then.

If anyone has a team they want, I suggest they state on here, and if no one else says they want them by the end of the day tomorrow, then they can have them.

Then we can randomly assign the rest.

Name	ATT	MID	DEF	OVR	TM Value (£m)
Bury	64	64	62	63	3.83
Cambridge Utd	61	62	60	61	1.98
Carlisle United	55	61	63	62	2.34
Cheltenham Town	64	61	62	62	2.43
Colchester	64	65	64	64	1.6
Crawley Town	60	63	61	62	2.54
Crewe Alexandra	62	58	59	60	2.05
Exeter City	64	64	64	64	3.13
Forest Green	64	64	62	63	2.68
Grimsby Town	66	61	62	62	2.84
Lincoln City	64	64	65	64	4.1
Macclesfield	60	59	60	60	1.51
Mansfield Town	65	63	64	64	3.94
MK Dons	66	62	64	65	5.4
Morecambe	63	60	58	60	2.05
Newport County	59	61	60	61	1.6

Will start to generate the fixtures and get everything set-up over the next few days.

I assume we want to do a 30 game season, playing each other home and away once?

A cup competition will only take up 4 rounds of games, with only the first one involving all teams. How about the first round takes up a normal week, but for 2nd round, semis and final, we do it alongside the league week (but with no injuries perhaps?), so everyone still has a game each week. And we have two cups, one on the first half of the season and one in the second half. So a season will last 32 weeks

And we do Marky's suggestion with the no-rules

Sounds good, so things to do are:

1. Allocate teams - anyone with a preference to say so by the end of tomorrow
2. Draft - decide how its working, and for everyone to nominate 3 players - defender / midfielder / forward
3. Tactics - a sample tactics sheet based on FIFA 19, and a summary of tactics options? Not sure we need the full list of formations again as I can't imagine its changed much from FIFA 18
4. Team pages - I've got a format for everyone to use, will post it up later

I would prefer Colchester please, being an Essex boy and all. Essex by birth, Canadian by genes, Belgian by choice.

Also, speaking as a West Brom fan whose team keeps being linked to spending ridiculous amounts of cash on him - you can keep Bradley Dack and shove him up your Lancashire a$$. If I'm spending £20m on a player I want him to have some pedigree, not 3/4 of a good season in the ruddy Championship. Joao fricking Moutinho cost £5m, give me him and his three quadruplet brothers rather than that podgy tap-in merchant.

I have no preference on team

Teams and who has requested them so far

Bury - $ka
Cambridge Utd - Dolph
Carlisle United
Cheltenham Town - Twist
Colchester - Azzy
Crawley Town - Marky
Crewe Alexandra
Exeter City
Forest Green - TAB
Grimsby Town
Lincoln City - Bam
Macclesfield - Hero
Mansfield Town
MK Dons - Olly
Morecambe
Newport County

Anyone else with a preference say so

I'll take the real Wimbledon please x

Forest Green Rovers please, for no other reason than I quite like their kit

Afro wrote:Based on TM values, the average player value in League 1 is £214,503.

So how about everyone gets £5m which is split between team and cash. We take MK Dons out of the list, as they are a bit of an outlier in terms of valuation.

So if you have Bury, its £3.8m for the existing squad and £1.2m budget.

Everyone then gets £1m extra for the draft, which can be spent on up to 3 draft players, or added to the budget for future use

Is this still the plan for deciding starting budgets?

Go on then, I will have Cheltenham Town please

I'll take Lincoln

I'll have Cambridge as it's where I'm from

BamBam wrote:

Afro wrote:Based on TM values, the average player value in League 1 is £214,503.

So how about everyone gets £5m which is split between team and cash. We take MK Dons out of the list, as they are a bit of an outlier in terms of valuation.

So if you have Bury, its £3.8m for the existing squad and £1.2m budget.

Everyone then gets £1m extra for the draft, which can be spent on up to 3 draft players, or added to the budget for future use

Is this still the plan for deciding starting budgets?

No. I think we were just going same budget for everyone.

Will confirm soon.

I have no preference for team.

Note that requesting a team doesn't mean you are guaranteed them. If someone else wants the same team, then we'll have to assign it randomly.

Yeah if someone else wants Lincoln I'm more than happy to give it up

Can everyone say they would like Macclesfield then?

Right average League 1 player value is £214k. Take Sunderland out of the equation, given they really skew the numbers, and the average valuation is £179k. As this is the level above ours, we should use this as the guide for budgets etc.

The suggestion is £1m main budget each, and then £200k bonus each week for submitting tactics on time.

Then a budget of £1m for the draft.

You can use some/all of your main budget towards the draft bids, but not vice versa. You lose any of your draft budget that isn't spent on the draft.

How does that sound?

Also any names for the two cup competitions are welcomed.

I'm fine with that (just reminded me that I need to build bonuses into my Google Doc)

How are the draft bids going to work?

We should also decide on bonuses for the cup

Do I get handicapped from the start by having Cambridge or is it fresh squads?

Drafts - I think we agreed on nominate 3, 1 def, 1 mid and 1 att. Sealed bids by PM?

Cup bonuses - as in for the week, or for winning?

BamBam wrote:I'm fine with that (just reminded me that I need to build bonuses into my Google Doc)

How are the draft bids going to work?

We should also decide on bonuses for the cup

Bam - could you take note of everything we decide/agree - perhaps on a sheet on the Google Document?

Yep, can do a summary sheet on there or just a new topic in a new section on here. Just asked Hero to make one

Either would do it. Just somewhere to track it

We should try and re-use the old section I reckon. It's still the Challenge League.

If Hero gives me the ability, I'm happy to archive all the old stuff and get it all set-up for the new league.

I'll take Exeter please

BamBam wrote:https://www.606v2.com/t68076-fifa-19-reboot#3744575

We are still doing the 70 fifa rating cap yeah for these drafts?

What was the threshold we agreed on?

Yep 70 cap for all purchases this season including the draft.

Yep, will add to the page

How are prices determined for those that don't have a value on TM?

Angel Gomes etc

Interesting one. I would say you are allowed only a certain amount of free's a season. Not looked into it too much but guessing you could build quite a squad on those free's.

What research I have done shows me there are a huge amount of options out there. You can really mould your side. In some respects, now that I have looked, if capping it all including drafts at 70 kind of makes the draft pointless. I would just go out and buy.

I know it is a bit late, but maybe say you can make 5 foreigns in pre season instead of a draft? Or have we said anything about the number of transfers a week - is it 2 as normal?

£0 - so fill your boots

On that topic - are we doing the whole youth team idea again or will it go a bit crazy with this many teams

I'd stick to 2 foreigns a week, yes. I see no reason to change it to 5 foreigns in pre season, that goes against the whole principle of wanting to start from a slow base. As far as I can see there's only 1 70 rated player in League 2 at the moment, that rule would allow up to 70 of them in straight away

The only thing going for the draft is that there is no first come, first served.

Using Angel Gomes as the example, on a normal foreign someone could just buy him for nothing as long as they were the first to do so.

With the draft, they have to bid for him and could easily be outbid if someone else wants him too

Yeah, thats what i thought. Which means, and i think we are all savvy enough to do this, we are keeping the players we want close to our chest. Which again makes the draft a bit pointless as we will be throwing in any old crap.

Instead of us choose, can we randomize it in some way?

Its because we're all savvy that I'm assuming that between 15 other managers someone will have identified the same players that I would want! So I'm going to put them in the draft and make sure that they get bid on rather than be there for easy pickings