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Post by HQ matt Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 am

Friday.
Sale Vs Quins

Saturday.
Sarries vs Newcastle
Wasps vs Worcester
Bath Vs Bristol
Tigers Vs Exeter

Sunday.
Saints Vs Gloucester

Big Weekend in the GP, nothing can be decided I guess but big moves can be made.

All relegation candidates are up against it with Briz, warriors and falcons all away from home and Leicester at home to chiefs, any victories for these sides would be a massive statement in the relegation battle. Not sure I fancy any of them to win, although Wasps and Bath have been very inconsistent this year i would still back them at home.

Beyond the relegation battle the race for the playoffs is still live. Quins may have an 8 point lead over 5th places saints but the 4 teams below quins are all at home including their opposition the Sale Sharks. Quins dont have a good record up at Sale so the table could have a very different look to it after this weekend. The Quins upcoming home game against Saints is looking more and more crucial in the playoff battle.

The champs Cup places could go right down to the wire as usual but unusually I think it will be the relegation battle that has us GP fans on the edge of our seats come the final rounds of the season!


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Post by Geordie Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 am

Sadly I fancy Worcester to beat Wasps. If they do, id say its over for us as I really cant see us getting much at Saracens and the gap will be too big to recover.

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Post by HQ matt Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:33 am

I dont fancy worcester but i agree that there is little to no chance of falcons getting anything at sarries.

I think falcons rather need everyone around them to lose and live to fight another weekend

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Post by tigertattie Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:40 am

Isnt it the GP now?

Just saying!
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Post by Eejit Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:57 am

tigertattie wrote:Isnt it the GP now?

Just saying!

If it was the GP, kick-offs would be 8:01 on the dot and its closed at the weekend.

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Post by tigertattie Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:17 am

(Reason for editing : Pedantry)

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:22 am

Just looked at the fixtures
Neither Bristol or Tigers are safe and if Wasps lose at the weekend neither are they

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Post by Rinsure Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:49 am

geoff999rugby wrote:Just looked at the fixtures
Neither Bristol or Tigers are safe and if Wasps lose at the weekend neither are they

As a Wasps fan, I'm looking at it optimistically. If results go our way we can finish the weekend in fifth. We want European Champions rugby next season, one way or another, and I've pretty much given up hope of a top four finish. So, top six is the next goal!

We're at home to Worcester, and while we've been rubbish, I am hopeful that with returnees from injury, and the distraction of the internationals a thing of the past for now, we should have sufficient quality to win (at home, I'd have a different opinion if we were at Sixways). A bonus point win (fingers crossed) would put us on 42 points, ahead of Saints on 41 (see next paragraph).

Saints to lose to Glaws, Sale to lose to Quins - I expect both Glaws and Quins to win away, cementing their top four positions.

Bath at home to Bristol? Could go either way, to be honest, so I'm hopeful for a Bears win.

So, from a Wasps perspective, if the results drop in, the table looks very different.

In the other games, I can't see past Sarries and Chiefs, so that leaves the bottom of the table looking more-or-less the same, I think.



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Post by geoff999rugby Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 am

Wasps are the only team out of those 5 who have to play both Chiefs and Saracens, and they are the following two games.

That makes Warriors a must win - 3 defeats in a row now would be a big concern, the last two Bath(A) and Quins (H) are hardly gimmes either

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Post by Rinsure Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:26 am

That away game at Bath has the potential to be HUGE for both sides.

Club affiliation to one side for a moment, it's a great season in that there is still so much to play for at this stage of the season, and the middle of the table is so tight.

Black & gold back on - yes, it is a must win!

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Post by Geordie Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:45 pm

So the talk is Farrell will be back for Saracens, but Billy V and Jamie George will be rested and Mako is not fit. And Brad Barritt is out injured.

Im sure they'll just replace those internationals with other internationals...whilst remaining under the wage cap...

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Post by HQ matt Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:39 am

Yes I suppose wasps could still be dragged in to the mire but it is unlikely, a win this weekend rules it out for me. Even if wasps lose this weekend its asking a lot of Falcons (given theyre are also unlikely to pick up points this weekend) to make up an 8 point deficit with then just 4 games remaining. As Geordie says a worcester win really makes falcons prime candidates for the drop.

What we need is a falcons win at sarries to really spice things up!

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:11 am

Yes we do HQ...

And you know what, if I was Dean...id put out the most attack minded side and just say hey...go for it. Open it up from our own try line if need be.

Just have fun and take them on with nothing to lose. We're expected to be beaten fairly straight forwardly, so get at them and try and get some bonus points.

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Post by HQ matt Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:05 am

So set out for the try bonus point and anything else is a bonus..

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:26 am

exactly Matt...if we go to defend we're just wasting our time.

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:33 pm

Falcons for Saracens

Wilson and Green rested. Ah You starts, Robinson fit again.

Newcastle Falcons team to face Saracens (Saturday, 3pm, Allianz Park)

15 Alex Tait
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Chris Harris
12 Josh Matavesi
11 Sinoti Sinoti
10 Toby Flood (captain)
9 Sonatane Takulua

1 Logovi'i Mulipola
2 George McGuigan
3 Rodney Ah You
4 Evan Olmstead
5 Andrew Davidson
6 Gary Graham
7 John Hardie
8 Callum Chick

Replacements
16 Kyle Cooper
17 Sam Lockwood
18 David Wilson
19 Sean Robinson
20 Will Witty
21 Sam Stuart
22 Brett Connon
23 Alex Dunbar

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:36 pm

Well...we're going for it!

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:37 pm

Saracens v Falcons

Richard Barrington,
Tom Woolstencroft,
Vincent Koch,
Maro Itoje,
George Kruis,
Mike Rhodes,
Schalk Burger,
Ben Earl.


Max Malins,
Sean Maitland,
Alex Lozowski,
Nick Tompkins,
Liam Williams,
Owen Farrell,
Ben Spencer.

REPLACEMENTS: Christopher Tolofua, Ralph Adams-Hale, Titi Lamositele, Nick Isiekwe, Calum Clark, Tom Whiteley, Dom Morris, Alex Lewington.

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:39 pm

Strong Saracens side though...

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Post by HQ matt Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:44 pm

Defo a bit of rotation in that sarries team, is that max malins at fullback?

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Post by Geordie Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:02 pm

Yeah mallins at FB. Think that's where he's being played most of the time with Goode at 10.

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Post by geoff999rugby Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:18 pm

HQ matt wrote:Yes I suppose wasps could still be dragged in to the mire but it is unlikely, a win this weekend rules it out for me. Even if wasps lose this weekend its asking a lot of Falcons (given theyre are also unlikely to pick up points this weekend) to make up an 8 point deficit with then just 4 games remaining.

I agree a Wasps win this weekend and they are safe
However a defeat and they will be nervous
They play Saracens and Exeter in their next two matches
Falcons have Tigers and Saints at home - that could be the gap gone

Following that Wasps are away to Bath
Not saying it is easy for Falcons, it isn't, but after this weekend Wasps have the worst run in.
Lose this weekend and they are in trouble

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Post by Rinsure Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:22 pm

Wasps side for Worcs (Sat 3pm @ The Ricoh):

Daly in the centre, Sopoaga back from injury, and a pretty boss back row. Pretty happy with the side as it goes, plenty of pace and power in there. Lot of ooomph on the bench too.

15 Willie Le Roux (51)
14 Marcus Watson (24)
13 Elliot Daly (189)
12 Gaby Lovobalavu (30)
11 Josh Bassett (100)
10 Lima Sopoaga (20)
9 Joe Simpson (252)
1 Zurabi Zhvania (19)
2 Tom Cruse (58)
3 Will Stuart (31)
4 Joe Launchbury (c) (136)
5 James Gaskell (105)
6 Brad Shields (10)
7 Nizaam Carr (32)
8 Nathan Hughes (120)

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16 Ashley Johnson (182)
17 Simon McIntyre (154)
18 Jake Cooper-Woolley (126)
19 Will Rowlands (71)
20 Ben Morris (16)
21 Craig Hampson (30)
22 Rob Miller (99)
23 Juan de Jongh (44)

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Post by LondonTiger Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:45 pm

No Jack Willis or Thomas Young, both injured? Makes the back row a bit slow and rather one dimensional imo.

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Post by Rinsure Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:20 pm

LondonTiger wrote:No Jack Willis or Thomas Young, both injured? Makes the back row a bit slow and rather one dimensional imo.

Yeah, both injured. Willis with an ankle niggle, IIRC, and Young with the injury he picked up against Tigers. Carr is deceptively fast, but I would tend to agree on Hughes and Shields though, although there's plenty of power in there.


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Post by TightHEAD Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Bath at Twickers, bound to be a win for Brizzle.

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Post by Geordie Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:47 pm

Well so far we're beating Saracens at half time

Worcester getting beat by wasps and Bristol getting beat

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Post by Geordie Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:53 pm

Bath have beaten Bristol...

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Post by Geordie Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:28 pm

Saracens ahead and Worcester clawing wasps back....

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Post by Geordie Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:52 pm

Saracens beat Falcons.

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Post by Heaf Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:02 pm

Haven't seen it but from what I'm reading Falcons threw away a LBP at the end and cost me the exact pick on Superbru Sad

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:57 pm

Tom Youngs red card! Exeter already with a comfortable lead but that will likely rule out a Tigers comeback.

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Post by yappysnap Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:46 pm

Cant really blame injuries or tactics either.

We just seem to be running out of steam now, too many penalties given away needlessly and too many players doing silly things.

The Cat really shouldnt have started he was poor at 10 and looks like he needs a lot more time in the A league and off the bench to improve. If he is even going to, he didnt exactly set the world alight at Montpellier.

Sinkler needs to be dropped for his silly antics, seems to happen too often for Quins.

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Post by Geordie Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:52 pm

Ouch....Tigers hammered by Exeter.

They're in free fall!!

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Post by LondonTiger Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:31 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ouch....Tigers hammered by Exeter.

They're in free fall!!

Landing zone St Helier.

"Looks like I chose the wrong week to give up alcohol"

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Post by king_carlos Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:14 pm

"Looks like I chose the wrong week to give up sniffing glue"

Tigers took a hammering but Falcons, Worcester and Tigers taking zero points and Bristol only one wasn't the worst weekend given Tigers were playing Chiefs.

Falcons - Tigers
Bristol - Sarries
Worcester - Sale

Tigers - Bristol
Falcons - Saints
Worcester - Gloucester

Quins - Tigers
Gloucester - Falcons
Saints - Worcester
Bristol - Sale

Tigers - Bath
Worcester - Sarries
Falcons - Bristol

Bristol and Worcester both have to play Sarries.

Falcons vs Bristol on the final weekend is a good thing for Tigers in some ways as only one of them should take the points.

Tigers also have Falcons and Bristol to come.

Leicester are certainly showing relegation form but the slight points advantage on the table and that run-in should be enough. Squeaky bum time.

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Post by Geordie Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:49 am

Huge game next weekend...Falcons v Tigers

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Post by Heaf Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:27 pm

The pass for the 2nd Glaws try looked a touch forwards to me ...

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Post by Heaf Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:44 pm

Bit of a try-fest going on here ...

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Post by TightHEAD Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:55 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Huge game next weekend...Falcons v Tigers

Massive, good luck Falcons. but in truth they won't need luck just do the basics right.
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