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Post by super_realist Tue 28 Jan 2020, 6:46 am

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dynamark wrote:Kobe beef isn't that a real thing.Not familiar with the gent but Basketball is a great spectator sport in that there is a score every few seconds and always a result .
Lowry has done very  well to say the least in view of the stick he gets.Good lad

Do you think so? It's certainly a great sport to play, but it's pretty boring to watch. 75% of the game is irrelevant. It only becomes slightly interesting in the last quarter when the match is won and lost. I thinks that's the problem with American sport. They concentrate so much on there being frequent scoring, that it becomes routine and lacks excitement when they do score.
I prefer moments of brilliance in sports rather than just constant routine points.

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Post by beninho Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:20 pm

Maybe, and it's just a hunch. All people are different!

You may wonder, that's your answer.

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Post by dynamark Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:23 pm

Plunky after my layoff and new hip I went back out full of enthusiasm thinking about bogey golf should be easy from being a 10 ish handicap player to nob it round bogey every hole shoot 90 but it didn't happen.
Lot harder than I ever thought.Try again this year if it ever stops raining,

Kwini the car is here its a licence we are missing.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:27 pm

super_realist wrote:Doesn't bother me, I just wonder why so many people accept being so bad at something and making no progress.
If I scuffed a football or sliced it every time I touched the ball, and had been doing so for 10 years, I doubt I'd play it anymore.


Yup,
But most people who are mediocre sporties play for the exercise and the camaraderie, more so than any win-at-all-costs competition.

To that end, I reckon any sport is healthy for body and soul; golf gets the most attention because of the handicap system, where it's obvious if your hcap is 30 or something like that.
Regardless, playing sport, cricket in my case, as a teenager in the same team/club as grandparents (not mine) was the best thing ever in morphing from child to adult. Certainly helped at work also.

Would actually say "club" sports are much healthier in GB&I than in the States, and much healthier for the teens/twenties population too.

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Post by I'm never wrong Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:37 pm

super_realist wrote:Doesn't bother me, I just wonder why so many people accept being so bad at something and making no progress.
If I scuffed a football or sliced it every time I touched the ball, and had been doing so for 10 years, I doubt I'd play it anymore.

Apart from the social aspect of golf, as others have mentioned, there are times when I "middle it" for want of a better phrase. Ball goes exactly where I wanted it to. So that keeps you coming back for more, in the (oh so) distant hope of managing to do that 70 times in a round.

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Post by super_realist Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:47 pm

I'm never wrong wrote:
super_realist wrote:Doesn't bother me, I just wonder why so many people accept being so bad at something and making no progress.
If I scuffed a football or sliced it every time I touched the ball, and had been doing so for 10 years, I doubt I'd play it anymore.

Apart from the social aspect of golf, as others have mentioned, there are times when I "middle it" for want of a better phrase. Ball goes exactly where I wanted it to. So that keeps you coming back for more, in the (oh so) distant hope of managing to do that 70 times in a round.

I do get it, I think we all need those shots which keep us coming back and it's all relative to your standard as to what that shot is, the social element is also important, but I would always want to be of a similar standard to my playing partners and wouldn't want to still be the same standard I was 10 years ago. Personal preference of course, but I think I'd find it difficult to not be better at anything I'd be doing for a while, so I don't really understand how people don't get better, surely repetition and familiarity would naturally improve a player of any standard?

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Post by beninho Fri 21 Feb 2020, 7:25 pm

Suppose the point is, it's just going to be based on individuals and starting points. If you've never played golf, and then pick up a club and play on a monthly/ 2 monthly basis you will improve, pretty quickly.

But, if after that 10 years, you carry on playing similar anounts, you will likely stay similar level. But obviously enjoying what you do.

In other words, its different for all.

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Post by Be_the_ball Sat 22 Feb 2020, 7:54 am

It was worth a try Laugh Laugh Laugh

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/21/young-man-u-fan-asks-liverpool-manager-to-start-losing-games-jurgen-klopp-letter

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Post by I'm never wrong Sat 22 Feb 2020, 9:25 am

Be_the_ball wrote:It was worth a try Laugh Laugh Laugh

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/21/young-man-u-fan-asks-liverpool-manager-to-start-losing-games-jurgen-klopp-letter
But Man Utd picked up on it and invited him over.

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Post by Be_the_ball Sat 22 Feb 2020, 1:23 pm

I'm never wrong wrote:
Be_the_ball wrote:It was worth a try Laugh Laugh Laugh

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/21/young-man-u-fan-asks-liverpool-manager-to-start-losing-games-jurgen-klopp-letter
But Man Utd picked up on it and invited him over.

Ha! Brilliant, I hadn't heard about that INW.

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Post by I'm never wrong Sat 22 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm

Here

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:48 pm

VAR has lost the plot.
Two terrible decisions in five days, both involving Azpilicueta.

Does Lo Celso now get a 3-match ban?

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 22 Feb 2020, 7:29 pm

Dyna,
You wuz robbed.
(Pity about the licence . . . . . )

VAR gets progressivly worse, not better.

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Post by McLaren Sat 22 Feb 2020, 7:31 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:because of the handicap system, where it's obvious if your hcap is 30 or something like that.

I think this is the key point, putting a number on a players ability makes it easy to compare two players. With football you just have to use subjective judgement. Although I am surprised Super isn't able to identify the equivalent to high handicappers when playing football.
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Post by super_realist Sun 23 Feb 2020, 7:16 am

I can Mac, I just don't hink your average footballer is as bad or makes as little progress as a golfer does.
I cannot understand why the average golfer does not improve at all.
I see the same guys every week, year in year out who aren't making any improvement at all. I can't see how you wouldn't just improve through familiarity.

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Post by super_realist Sun 23 Feb 2020, 7:18 am

Why on earth are the Democrats seemingly going to give the nomination to a man who could very well be dead before the election even begins?

To think we laugh at Labour.

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Post by pedro Sun 23 Feb 2020, 8:38 am

It’s probably less about him than the other candidates.
Don’t know how kwini feels about a likely Trump re-election.

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Post by Be_the_ball Sun 23 Feb 2020, 10:18 am

Bernie Sanders becoming president of the US would be the best thing to happen to the world since Perestroika.

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Post by beninho Sun 23 Feb 2020, 10:25 am

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

It's hard to pull out anything in that, and say it's not a good idea.

I have very little knowledge of American politics and the American people, but my view is that it's a pretty much right wing country, where even the recent Democrats have been more centre ground then actual lefty.

I also gather us elections really come down to a handful of swing states, are these states likely to vote Bernie? I suppose only an American can say.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 23 Feb 2020, 10:46 am

pedro wrote:It’s probably less about him than the other candidates.
Don’t know how kwini feels about a likely Trump re-election.


As REM might sing, it could herald "The end of the world as we know it".

I don't know Bernie but see him around quite a bit when he's not playing presidential wannabe.
I don't think he's electable - he waffles on specifics and talks out of both sides of his mouth on some key issues. Plus his wife has a very patchy record that I can't imagine would bear much scrutiny.

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Post by dynamark Sun 23 Feb 2020, 12:17 pm

Kwini we was robbed.Tactically played that game just right and it was a great game to watch other than the obvious.Ederson just cleaned out Nacho double punch to the throat and missed the ball .GBH on the street and the penalty we didn't complain enough need too get more streetwise need a Argentinian cheating coach ideally.
I was getting nervous about the season but feeling more confident even though we lost.
Mahrez got some stick but it was half hearted we should resign him. Good day out .Golf course closed again rain

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 23 Feb 2020, 12:22 pm

Quite.

dyna,
It sounds as if you're speaking to Lallana - do you have room for him?

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Post by JAS Sun 23 Feb 2020, 6:11 pm

super_realist wrote:Why on earth are the Democrats seemingly going to give the nomination to a man who could very well be dead before the election even begins?

To think we laugh at Labour.

I would have thought it less likely than us electing Corbyn, so if they do fair doos to the U S of A. Like Corbyn Supes you seem determined to play the man rather than the ball. Which policy area(s) do you think Trump is much better on?

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Post by super_realist Sun 23 Feb 2020, 8:43 pm

Dianne Abbot to step down from the shadow cabinet. About effing time. First positive thing to happen to Labour since 1997.

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Post by super_realist Sun 23 Feb 2020, 9:46 pm

JAS wrote:
super_realist wrote:Why on earth are the Democrats seemingly going to give the nomination to a man who could very well be dead before the election even begins?

To think we laugh at Labour.

I would have thought it less likely than us electing Corbyn, so if they do fair doos to the U S of A. Like Corbyn Supes you seem determined to play the man rather than the ball. Which policy area(s) do you think Trump is much better on?

I've been pretty consistent in my criticism of Corbyn and his mad cabinets bonkers policies JAS as well as the moron himself, if I attack Corbyn, you can be assured I'm attacking both the man, who's blatantly a c-word, and his absurdly stupid policies at the same time. To slate Corbyn, is to slate the entire current Labour set up.

I don't know much about the policies of Sanders, other than what I hear from my American Democrat voting colleague, but I do think it's stupid to vote in a man who is very near the average age of mortality for an American male. Surely there must be plenty other American millionaires who could be likely to live longer than an old duffer like Sanders?

Why do you ask which of Trumps policies I like better? I never mentioned policies or Trump, I only mentioned the fact that Sanders is a coffin dodger, just as Trump is now. Trump has survived one term, I wouldn't bank on Sanders or Trump seeing it through the next one. I know it's effectively mandatory for you to be a millionaire minimum to be elected in America, but surely in a country so vast you can get two millionaire candidates who might actually have a fighting chance of being around by the end of the term they are seeking election for without the need to vote in ghastly and mad people like Oprah or any other crackpot celebrity who throws their hat in the ring.

When you criticise any particular party, their leaders or their policies, it doesn't by default mean that you approve of any of those of any other party. It's not a binary choice, we are free to criticise them all, without having to accept any of them. If you criticise one, doesn't mean you support the other.


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Post by McLaren Sun 23 Feb 2020, 9:53 pm

Super

There are some very bad people on both sides?
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Post by super_realist Sun 23 Feb 2020, 9:55 pm

McLaren wrote:Super

There are some very bad people on both sides?

Of course, you even need to ask that as a question?

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Post by JAS Mon 24 Feb 2020, 7:02 am

super_realist wrote:
JAS wrote:
super_realist wrote:Why on earth are the Democrats seemingly going to give the nomination to a man who could very well be dead before the election even begins?

To think we laugh at Labour.

I would have thought it less likely than us electing Corbyn, so if they do fair doos to the U S of A. Like Corbyn Supes you seem determined to play the man rather than the ball. Which policy area(s) do you think Trump is much better on?

I've been pretty consistent in my criticism of Corbyn and his mad cabinets bonkers policies JAS as well as the moron himself, if I attack Corbyn, you can be assured I'm attacking both the man, who's blatantly a c-word, and his absurdly stupid policies at the same time. To slate Corbyn, is to slate the entire current Labour set up.

I don't know much about the policies of Sanders, other than what I hear from my American Democrat voting colleague, but I do think it's stupid to vote in a man who is very near the average age of mortality for an American male. Surely there must be plenty other American millionaires who could be likely to live longer than an old duffer like Sanders?

Why do you ask which of Trumps policies I like better? I never mentioned policies or Trump, I only mentioned the fact that Sanders is a coffin dodger, just as Trump is now. Trump has survived one term, I wouldn't bank on Sanders or Trump seeing it through the next one. I know it's effectively mandatory for you to be a millionaire minimum to be elected in America, but surely in a country so vast you can get two millionaire candidates who might actually have a fighting chance of being around by the end of the term they are seeking election for without the need to vote in ghastly and mad people like Oprah or any other crackpot celebrity who throws their hat in the ring.

When you criticise any particular party, their leaders or their policies, it doesn't by default mean that you approve of any of those of any other party. It's not a binary choice, we are free to criticise them all, without having to accept any of them. If you criticise one, doesn't mean you support the other.

I’d say iIF he gets elected his most likely cause of death will sadly be assassination, American don’t do left wing politics. Even though he’s fairly centrist the mad bad gun totin loony right will have him.

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Post by super_realist Mon 24 Feb 2020, 7:50 am

JAS, I think you're missing the point. I don't think there's any hope of him getting elected, nor am I talking about the politics of any side. I'm questioning the wisdom of putting up a pair of geriatrics for election when it's highly probable one or both might not see through any term. Can you imagine the horror of a Mike Pence Presidency if Trump were to die? You think Trump is bad, wait until there's a bible thumping, creationist, young earther in the White House.

The Democrats aren't really that left anyway,  further left than the Republicans, but compared to European politics, they're still pretty right by comparison, centrist at best.

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Post by pedro Mon 24 Feb 2020, 10:00 am

With all the US millionaires and billionaires with political aspirations you should think there was basis for a third party.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 24 Feb 2020, 12:14 pm

super_realist wrote:JAS, I think you're missing the point. I don't think there's any hope of him getting elected, nor am I talking about the politics of any side. I'm questioning the wisdom of putting up a pair of geriatrics for election when it's highly probable one or both might not see through any term. Can you imagine the horror of a Mike Pence Presidency if Trump were to die? You think Trump is bad, wait until there's a bible thumping, creationist, young earther in the White House.

The Democrats aren't really that left anyway,  further left than the Republicans, but compared to European politics, they're still pretty right by comparison, centrist at best.


super,
You're spot on as far as Dems not really that left, none of the candidates for sure.

But I think you underestimate the extent to which Drumpf is a dictator, with no-one to rein him in.
Pence may be a sycophantic, evangelical, d1ckhead nobody, but the cardboard cut-out of a man would have not 1% of the bullying, intimidating presence of Drumpf and the extent to which Drumpf TV acts as his mouthpiece - he's really a trojan horse for the worst excesses of the extreme racist right-wing of the Republicans.

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 1:18 pm

super_realist wrote:
McLaren wrote:Super

There are some very bad people on both sides?

Of course, you even need to ask that as a question?


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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:20 pm

Ok, so the reemergence of barragan gave me an idea.

I went back to an old thread and copied some of the usernames into a PM and sent out a message asking old users to check out the forum again.

I also copied in a few current regulars just in case you can think of anyone I missed.

(although it did block me from sending some people PM's)
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Post by super_realist Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:25 pm

Maverick?

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:28 pm

Super

I invited Fader, I believe they are the same person.

Also one of the old threads I found suggested that the guy from Dundee, chillidipper, was dead.  The person making the claim refused to confirm if the were taking the piss or not.

Anyone know anything about that?
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Post by Shotrock Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:29 pm

Trussman!!

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Post by super_realist Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:31 pm

McLaren wrote:Super

I invited Fader, I believe they are the same person.

Also one of the old threads I found suggested that the guy from Dundee, chillidipper, was dead.  The person making the claim refused to confirm if the were taking the piss or not.

Anyone know anything about that?

Didn't someone die of cancer?

Not sure what happened to Diggers, think the strain of Brexit might have killed him.

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:38 pm

Shotrock wrote:Trussman!!

Thanks, I have sent them a PM now.
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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:39 pm

Super

Other than the chilli death claim I know of no other posters who have succumbed.


Diggers has been a big loss.
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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:47 pm

Trussman is still around, just not on the Golf Board. Very wise of him.

I wrote a pm to Diggers & Grumps a month or so ago, but no reply. Sure BlueCoverman is still in touch with Grumps.

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Post by super_realist Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:49 pm

Old Pultenay was another.

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:50 pm

Kwini

The issue is people might not use the email address that PM alerts get sent to or might they might have turned off those alerts.

I do wonder if the site admins can send out emails directly to the addresses linked to the user accounts?
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Post by dynamark Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:50 pm

Good lad Digs hope he is OK .Anyone remember Boa and his drinks cabinet?
Kwini we could happily take Lallana but not sure where he plays unless someone leaves.Chilwell can go for good money for me never really rated him easy on the eye but not great at the basics.Mahrez has him on toast.

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 3:54 pm

I also think that Kwini's weekly article could be promoted on the front page of the site, or be a global sticky even if just on the day of release.
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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 24 Feb 2020, 4:04 pm

McLaren wrote:I also think that Kwini's weekly article could be promoted on the front page of the site, or be a global sticky even if just on the day of release.


Mac,
Not very keen on building up expectations/dread that I'll come up with something regularly - most of what's got to be said has been written . . . . . . .

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 4:11 pm

Fair enough. Maybe the mods could just pick one of the topics from the golf section and promote it now and again. Whether it be what you have written that week or another topic. Just something to direct some new posters to the golf section.
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Post by incontinentia Mon 24 Feb 2020, 8:03 pm

Thanks for your mail Mac. Still on a massive bender after Lowry's Open victory, so havent had much time to post. Hope everyone is doing good x
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Post by BlueCoverman Mon 24 Feb 2020, 11:01 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Trussman is still around, just not on the Golf Board. Very wise of him.

I wrote a pm to Diggers & Grumps a month or so ago, but no reply. Sure BlueCoverman is still in touch with Grumps.

Yes I'm still in touch with Grumps, although not quite as much these days. He sadly lost his wife at a very young age to cancer a couple of years ago, but pleased to say he has been in a new relationship for a number of months now. I believe they have just bought a house together, she looks lovely and I know he is very happy again. I haven't met her yet but look forward to seeing them both the next time he is over to the UK to visit his parents in Essex.

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Post by McLaren Mon 24 Feb 2020, 11:55 pm

incontinentia wrote:Thanks for your mail Mac. Still on a massive bender after Lowry's Open victory, so havent had much time to post. Hope everyone is doing good x


It was one of the most enjoyable major wins I can remember. You don't often see the guy everyone wants to win actually win in golf. Nice to hear from you again.
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Post by incontinentia Tue 25 Feb 2020, 7:27 am

It was amazing. Surprised to see super still posting here, thought he would've burst into flames when Lowry sank the final putt Very Happy
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Post by super_realist Tue 25 Feb 2020, 7:51 am

incontinentia wrote:It was amazing. Surprised to see super still posting here, thought he would've burst into flames when Lowry sank the final putt Very Happy

It was a fine win, but he's done what I expected him to do, and will literally dine off this win for the rest of his life, and judging by his results, looks like he has been. Willett Mark 2.

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