Italy v Wales Stadio Olimpico SAT 13 MAR 2021 discussion thread.

by LordDowlais Mon 8 Mar - 12:30

First topic message reminder :

Italy v Wales
14:15

Venue: Stadio Olimpico

I thought I might as well get this started, what are we expecting ? Mass changes for Wales ? A surprise Italian win ? Wales need to win this at a canter to show that other results were not down to luck or bad refereeing.

I hope Wales stick to the same starting 15, just to keep the momentum going for the final game.

Wales team to face Italy: Liam Williams; Louis Rees-Zammit, George North, Jonathan Davies, Josh Adams; Dan Biggar, Gareth Davies; Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Tomas Francis, Cory Hill, Alun Wyn Jones, Josh Navidi, Justin Tipuric, Taulupe Faletau.

Replacements: Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Leon Brown, Jake Ball, Aaron Wainwright, Lloyd Williams, Callum Sheedy, Uilisi Halaholo

Italy: Jacopo Trulla; Mattia Bellini, Juan Ignacio Brex, Carlo Canna, Monty Ioane; Paolo Garbisi, Stephen Varney: Danilo Fischetti, Luca Bigi (capt), Giosue Zilocchi, Niccola Cannone, David Sisi, Sebastian Negri, Johan Meyer, Michele Lamaro.

Replacements: Oliviero Fabiani, Andrea Lovotti, Marco Riccioni, Marco Lazzaroni, Maxime Mbanda, Marcello Violi, Federico Mori, Edoardo Padovani.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 14:40

TightHEAD wrote:Gauzere

What did he do wrong? I’ll give you a chance to explain your constant posting of him.

by TightHEAD Sat 13 Mar - 14:41

Easier than a training run this for Wales. Just look after Toby.

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 14:41

Jeez poor Franco.

by Duty281 Sat 13 Mar - 14:42

Why was Barnes wasted on this complete non-event? Why not give one of the upcoming international referees some experience?

Italy as bad as they've ever been.

by TightHEAD Sat 13 Mar - 14:43

RiscaGame wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Gauzere

What did he do wrong? I’ll give you a chance to explain your constant posting of him.

Everyone knows he was wrong, stop bullying me not good for my mental well-being.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 14:46

Biggar’s ruck entry probably warranted more of a look.

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 14:49

RiscaGame wrote:Biggar’s ruck entry probably warranted more of a look.

Yeah, that’s what I thought they were reviewing to start with!

by tigertattie Sat 13 Mar - 14:51

What’s the Italian for “stop the penalties”?

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 14:54

Good kick Biggar!

by Heaf Sat 13 Mar - 15:04

The Oracle wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Biggar’s ruck entry probably warranted more of a look.

Yeah, that’s what I thought they were reviewing to start with!

Lucky they didn't - looked like his shoulder hit the Italian 8 on the head when he launched into the ruck off his feet ...

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 15:07

Heaf wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Biggar’s ruck entry probably warranted more of a look.

Yeah, that’s what I thought they were reviewing to start with!

Lucky they didn't - looked like his shoulder hit the Italian 8 on the head when he launched into the ruck off his feet ...

https://twitter.com/edcrick/status/1370748756770033696?s=21

by Heaf Sat 13 Mar - 15:12

RiscaGame wrote:
Heaf wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Biggar’s ruck entry probably warranted more of a look.

Yeah, that’s what I thought they were reviewing to start with!

Lucky they didn't - looked like his shoulder hit the Italian 8 on the head when he launched into the ruck off his feet ...

https://twitter.com/edcrick/status/1370748756770033696?s=21

The way the 8's head moved looked like head not shoulder to me ... either way it should have been reviewed but they were so fixated on the upright tackle they missed the actual offence.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 15:20

They must’ve looked at it. That possible offence was more obvious in real time, than his tackle.

It was so needless though. Wales don’t need to compete too much. Just let them make their mistakes.

by Heaf Sat 13 Mar - 15:24

I don't see how they can have looked at it as you can't launch yourself shoulder first into a ruck and not get at least a pen these days ... not that it would make any difference to this match as Wales would probably still win with only 10 men on the pitch.

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 15:33

That’s a class try by Iaone. Anyone else did it we’d all be raving.

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 15:36

It’s literally one of Adams’ first actions to ground the ball, that’s a BS call.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 15:37

That’s so poor by Adams.

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 15:38

Chalk one off to feel sorry for them, never seen a clearer try scored. Oh well, retribution for the England game.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:40

mikey_dragon wrote:Chalk one off to feel sorry for them, never seen a clearer try scored. Oh well, retribution for the England game.

You're not that up on the laws then mikey.

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 15:42

No 7&1/2 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Chalk one off to feel sorry for them, never seen a clearer try scored. Oh well, retribution for the England game.

You're not that up on the laws then mikey.

I seen the ball grounded. That’s a pretty clear law.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:43

We all saw the ball grounded. Just that he had his foot in touch first. Bit sloppy as he's obviously an excellent finisher.

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 15:45

No 7&1/2 wrote:We all saw the ball grounded. Just that he had his foot in touch first. Bit sloppy as he's obviously an excellent finisher.

What Mikey is saying is that he thought Adams grounded it initially when he first went over, not the later grounding after he had slid out.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:47

The Oracle wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:We all saw the ball grounded. Just that he had his foot in touch first. Bit sloppy as he's obviously an excellent finisher.

What Mikey is saying is that he thought Adams grounded it initially when he first went over, not the later grounding after he had slid out.

Yeah I got that ta. I also get he doesn't really believe it hence the first comment.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:48

mikey_dragon wrote:Sloppy yes, but the ball was clearly grounded before that. The English always come onto these threads to comment on Wales, no mention of Italy foul play as per . Go France.

Oh sorry. Didn't realise I had to comment on that. Good by Barnes to ask the tmo to review. Good decision.

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 15:48

No 7&1/2 wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:We all saw the ball grounded. Just that he had his foot in touch first. Bit sloppy as he's obviously an excellent finisher.

What Mikey is saying is that he thought Adams grounded it initially when he first went over, not the later grounding after he had slid out.

Yeah I got that ta. I also get he doesn't really believe it hence the first comment.

Why accuse him of not knowing the rules then? It makes no sense to your comment if your thought Mikey was talking about grounding the ball before sliding out as that is the most basic of rules.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 13 Mar - 15:49

Mikey, that’s your second post deleted in two days. Last warning. No need for pointless generalisations.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:51

Mikey knows it was grounded in time oracle.

Rees zammitt is bloody good.

by Heaf Sat 13 Mar - 15:55

Correct decision for the YC. Couldn't see the previous possible Italian offence as there was no close-up replay. Not reviewing Biggar's ruck entry was an error. The call on the original tackle was correct. Try was difficult to see tbh but looked like he may have cradled the ball with his arms underneath at the start which I guess led to the TMO decision but I couldn't be sure either way.

by Geordie Sat 13 Mar - 15:55

Pirouetting like an international netballer....

Deer lord the commentary at times...

by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Mar - 15:56

Why would that be deleted when it’s what happened? Two posters clearly doing it. Don’t recall having another post being deleted, first I’ve heard of it. Don’t recall any action taken against posters getting threads closed this week either, bit awkward.

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 15:57

GeordieFalcon wrote:Pirouetting like an international netballer....

Deer lord the commentary at times...

Yeah I thought that. Why not just ‘turning like an international winger’, which he is!

by No 7&1/2 Sat 13 Mar - 15:58

To be fair mikey I didn't think you were out of order. You always hate the English posters commenting on Wales!

by Heaf Sat 13 Mar - 16:02

Mikey if you're having a dig at me for questioning the Biggar ruck entry it's because it's a an area that's had a lot of focus recently so was worthy of a look - I don't think saying Wales would still win with 10 men can be classed as being 'anti-Welsh' ...

by Guest Sat 13 Mar - 16:02

Jonathan Davies has been poor with ball in hand today. A few poor passes messing up promising attacks and a terrible chip now straight to the Italian player.

by majesticimperialman Sat 13 Mar - 16:03

I stopped watching after half time.

Italy have not put in any decent breaks/or attacks. It is just like a training game for Wales,

by Geordie Sat 13 Mar - 16:11

"You can tell he puts his head where it hurts by the blood on his nose"

Dear me....

by flyhalffactory Sat 13 Mar - 16:27

Well done Wales. Credit where its due, its looking a well balanced squad with Pivac showing faith in North when Welsh fans were clamouring for his head and bringing in new players and giving them decent game time.

One thing, LRZ is forcing Gats & Co to have no choice but to select him for the Lions tour, maybe even in the test 15.

by whatahitson Sat 13 Mar - 16:28

Duty281 wrote:Why was Barnes wasted on this complete non-event? Why not give one of the upcoming international referees some experience?

Italy as bad as they've ever been.

You're looking at it the wrong way. Think about post match.

Pizza and wine in Rome or haggis and Buckfast in Edinburgh?

by whatahitson Sat 13 Mar - 16:30

GeordieFalcon wrote:Pirouetting like an international netballer....

Deer lord the commentary at times...

I watched the game on mute. Dreadful.

by LordDowlais Sun 14 Mar - 9:56

I know Navidi had MOM yesterday and he did put in a massive shift, but for me, Cory Hill was the best player on that pitch. He was everywhere, and he was solid in the line out.

by TightHEAD Sun 14 Mar - 22:01

whatahitson wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Pirouetting like an international netballer....

Deer lord the commentary at times...

I watched the game on mute. Dreadful.

ITV is dreadful commentary, makes the BBC look great.

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