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Post by George Carlin Sun 25 Jul 2021, 9:23 am

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SOUTH AFRICA BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
Saturday 31 July
KO: 18:00 SAST / 17:00 UK / 20:00 Dubai  Very Happy
Cape Town Stadium (Newlands), Cape Town
Sky Sports Main Event

Referee: Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Mathieu Raynal (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker ( Erm )

TEAMS:

SOUTH AFRICA:
15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 63 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse) – 15 caps, 40 pts (8t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 16 caps, 15 pts (3t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 48 caps, 30 pts (6t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 15 caps, 70 pts (14t)
10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 50 caps, 477pts (6t, 78c, 93p, 4d)
09 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 31 caps, 25 pts (5t)

08 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 1 cap, 0 pts
07 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers) – 57 caps, 25 pts (5t)
06 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 52 caps, 30 pts (6t)
05 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 41 caps, 5pts (1t)
04 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 87 caps, 15 pts (3t)
03 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 40 caps, 5pts (1t)
02 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 38 caps, 40 pts (8t)
01 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 49 caps, 5pts (1t)

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 35 caps, 30 pts (6t)
17 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 44 caps, 5 pts (1t)
18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 21 caps, 0 pts
19 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 46 caps, 25 pts (5t)
20 – Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 3 caps, 0 pts
21 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 8 caps, 5 pts (1t)
22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 25 pts (5t)
23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 8 caps, 5pts (1t)

BRITISH & IRISH LIONS:
15. Stuart Hogg (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) #783
14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844
12. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #824
11. Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841
10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
09. Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

01. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787
02. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851
03. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818
04. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
05. Alun Wyn Jones – captain (Ospreys, Wales) #761
06. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826
07. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
08. Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

16. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
17. Rory Sutherland (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #840
18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
19. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
20. Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779
21. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843
22. Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780
23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm

PSTD is off

That's a huge loss

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm

Awful call that. No reward for the Lions.

Rewarded Ezebeth from the side, for the penalty that was missed though.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm

Huge loss for South Africa with du Toit not making it much past 21 minutes.

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:30 pm

Old Man wrote:Du Toit injured

He got hurt in that tackle from VDM

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Post by king_carlos Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:30 pm

Old Man wrote:Du Toit injured

He's been struggling since that Duhan hit. I think he landed awkwardly and already had a shoulder knock.

A huge blow for the Boks. I'm so surprised that Jacques du Plessis isn't in the Boks squad for this reason. He's a very similar style of player to PSdT.

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Post by Heaf Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:30 pm

Not sure how SA got the put-in there

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:32 pm

Great defending by VDM.
Refs seem to be being guided so far for the hour long rant.

Tongue in cheek for the defending by the way. Just annoying that the clear yellow at least has been ignored against SA to level out last week.


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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:32 pm

That's a fair yellow

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:33 pm

Fair yellow aye.

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Post by Heaf Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:33 pm

Daft by VDM

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:34 pm

Shouldn't have been a yellow as Kolbe shouldn't be on the field.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:34 pm

Very fair yellow. He's nowhere near the ball, knows what he's doing and hacks Kolbe's legs out.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:36 pm

Red card, ref.

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:36 pm

Colby is in real trouble this time!

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:36 pm

Etzebeth and Itoje checking their muscles

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:37 pm

Kolbe will get yellow

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Post by king_carlos Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:37 pm

The Lions chase had a massive dog leg if SA shifted the ball to the left wing there.

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

That could be a red!

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Murray doing his best to milk that for a red

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Awful again. Kolbe should be off.


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Post by Heaf Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Kolbe needs a red this time

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:39 pm

BigGee wrote:That could be a red!
He was watching the ball the whole time

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:39 pm

Old Man wrote:Murray doing his best to milk that for a red

He landed on his face

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:40 pm

Old Man wrote:
BigGee wrote:That could be a red!
He was watching the ball the whole time

Makes no difference, he was nowhere near it and did not compete

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Post by lostinwales Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:40 pm

Old Man wrote:
BigGee wrote:That could be a red!
He was watching the ball the whole time

Not judging what happened but that is what they all say

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:40 pm

yes he tried to shield and then dipped his head to hit the ground

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:40 pm

then Biggar milks it

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

These players should start playing rugby and stop trying to milk cards

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Awful by the ref.

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Post by Heaf Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Officials bottled the red again ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Extremely lucky.

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

what is awful about it?

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Post by BigGee Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Kolbe gets a yellow, he was pretty lucky there I would say

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

Old Man wrote:then Biggar milks it

He did but real cheap shot on Biggar too

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

How the Frak is that a red?

He had his eyes on the ball the whole time.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

Utterly dismal refereeing. Murray landed on his head, not his back. Biggar got a forearm in his back, but Jonker was more interested in Curry's little shove.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

Old Man wrote:what is awful about it?

The decision.

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Post by Old Man Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

Oh please. Best I walk away from this chat now,

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Post by BamBam Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:43 pm

Definitely a red, he would have landed head first if his hand didn't come out.

If eyes on the ball discount all punishments, I look forward to someone drop kicking Rassie while watching where the ball is

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Post by Heaf Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:44 pm

Old Man wrote:How the Frak is that a red?

He had his eyes on the ball the whole time.

He knows a player is in the air and has a duty of care

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:44 pm

Never in a position to win the ball + dangerous action (not for the first time from that player) + Murray lands on his head = red card. Easiest call of the test, bottled by the officiating team.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:44 pm

BigGee wrote:Kolbe gets a yellow, he was pretty lucky there I would say

This is a situation where reffing the outcome frustrates me. It could be a red for Kolbe due to how Murray lands but Kolbe's eyes are on the ball. With how these are now reffed his eyes being on the ball doesn't matter but reffing the outcome means there's so much luck (or lack of luck) involved in the decision. If Murray happens to land on his feet or knees from the exact same action from Kolbe it's just a penalty and move on.

In my opinion that is the correct outcome (yellow, Lions penalty) for the collision but whether it's consistent with how those collisions have been reffed recently is a different discussion.

A messy collision that will no doubt produce a messy debate regardless of the result of the match.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

Well a yellow is probably fair enough in this game. It’s nice and tense so far.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

Both wingers on the same side being in the bin is fascinating if either side chooses to shift the ball that way. Potentially an incentive to keep the ball in hand and play 'coast to coast' a bit more

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Post by BamBam Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

Second line out steal for Itoje. He's not just great on the ground

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:47 pm

Itoje having a career-defining series. Good on him after a tough period with England.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:48 pm

Well we do seem to like a good controversial decision on this board. Or even a really bad one.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:48 pm

Would like to have Liam Williams in a game like this. Don't know who I'd drop, mind you.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:49 pm

This must be one of the slowest tests in rugby history. 49 minutes since kick-off, only 29 minutes of rugby played.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 31 Jul 2021, 5:50 pm

Definite red.

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