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The Calcutta Cup Saturday 5 Feb 2022
First topic message reminder :
Scotland vs England
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Saturday 5th of February 2022
Kick Off 4:45pm
What the Coaches are saying
Gregor Townsend - "The players have been in outstanding form for their respective clubs.. and that is outstanding!" *tongue click*
Eddie Jones - "There are some young players getting an opportunity. They just need to make sure they don't get distracted or else they might not do so well."
Scotland Team
1. Sutherland 2. Turner 3. Z Fagerson
4. J Gray 5. Gilchrist
6. Ritchie 7. Watson 8. M Fagerson.
9. Price 10. Russell
12. Johnson 13. Harris
11. Van der Merwe 14. Graham
15. Hogg
Replacements: McInally, Schoeman, Nel, Skinner, M Bradbury, White, Kinghorn, Tuipulotu.
England Team
1. Genge 2. Cowan-Dickie 3. Sinckler
4. Itoje 5. Isiekwe
6. Ludlam 7. Curry (c) 8. Simmonds.
9. Youngs 10. Smith
12. Slade 13. Daly
11. Marchant 14. Malins
15. Steward
Replacements: George, Marler, Stuart, Ewels, Dombrandt, Randall, Ford, Nowell.
Scotland vs England
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Saturday 5th of February 2022
Kick Off 4:45pm
What the Coaches are saying
Gregor Townsend - "The players have been in outstanding form for their respective clubs.. and that is outstanding!" *tongue click*
Eddie Jones - "There are some young players getting an opportunity. They just need to make sure they don't get distracted or else they might not do so well."
Scotland Team
1. Sutherland 2. Turner 3. Z Fagerson
4. J Gray 5. Gilchrist
6. Ritchie 7. Watson 8. M Fagerson.
9. Price 10. Russell
12. Johnson 13. Harris
11. Van der Merwe 14. Graham
15. Hogg
Replacements: McInally, Schoeman, Nel, Skinner, M Bradbury, White, Kinghorn, Tuipulotu.
England Team
1. Genge 2. Cowan-Dickie 3. Sinckler
4. Itoje 5. Isiekwe
6. Ludlam 7. Curry (c) 8. Simmonds.
9. Youngs 10. Smith
12. Slade 13. Daly
11. Marchant 14. Malins
15. Steward
Replacements: George, Marler, Stuart, Ewels, Dombrandt, Randall, Ford, Nowell.
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You don’t need maths or spreadsheets or slide rules or any form of measuring apparatus to know that Duhan’s gonna get ye
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Gooseberry wrote:I think one thing we can take to that is that weight alone doesnt directly equate to how physical and powerful into contact a player is. Build and actual straight up levels of aggression just as important. Conversely weight alone doesnt equate to how athletic and mobile a player is.
Think we can all agree though that the Scotlandish backs outpower the English ones as a unit.
Yes but I don't think the difference is as significant as the speed advantage the English backs have. Of course you have to namecheck VDM who is always going to be hard to deal with but I think England will cause the Scottish defense plenty of problems
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Smith rucks over forwards so it's all good.
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My annual resistance has crumbled and I'm back for the Six Nations.
It seems there's two relatively skilful, agile teams. Really makes one pine for the days of Perry Freshwater and Allan Jacobsen going at it between the two 10 metre lines for 80 minutes. There's shades of 2012 with this one. An experienced and settled Scotland side, going up against a relatively inexperienced new look England side. We all know what happened there. Scotland don't do well as the overdog. It doesn't suit our psyche. If you happen to be a history nerd (congratulations), and you've read Good King Robert's testament then you will catch my drift. If you've had sex before and not read any medieval Scottish war strategies then you might want to get a life.
In essence, it's a 14 line poem supposedly summing up Robert the Bruce's battle tactics. It also provides a blueprint for all great Scottish rugby wins over England. An admission that they will be outpowered, they won't have the cavalry. But by subtlety and surprise they can perform a sort of guerrilla warfare. Being the favourites rather dispels that possibility. Scotland's victories, until last year at least, seem largely to have been the result of being irritating in the breakdown, niggly at set piece and a couple of moments of magic.
The difference is, this time, we have a handful of players who are used to being the favourites on the big occasions. Russell, Hogg and Gray for example are used to it al club level. Most of them, have had experience of being favourites against Tier One opposition for Scotland. Maitland is another but he has been bizarrely overlooked. The other issue we've faced in the past is that our players have been experienced in numbers of caps but not occasions. It's all very well having 50 caps but if 30 of them are Six Nations drubbings and a further 15 are gimmes against Tier 2 nations with a smattering of victories against Italy then that experience is not all that much to talk about. No offence Graeme Morrison, Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca.
This bunch have played big club games, some big internationals and a fair few are Test Lions. It's a decidedly unScottish Scotland team (not just Duhan Van Der Merwe) that will perhaps not be best suited to the Scottish weather. So I'm predicting a very Scottish performance to bring us all back down to earth and throw egg in my earlier self who bet a foolish amount of money on a Scotland win.
It seems there's two relatively skilful, agile teams. Really makes one pine for the days of Perry Freshwater and Allan Jacobsen going at it between the two 10 metre lines for 80 minutes. There's shades of 2012 with this one. An experienced and settled Scotland side, going up against a relatively inexperienced new look England side. We all know what happened there. Scotland don't do well as the overdog. It doesn't suit our psyche. If you happen to be a history nerd (congratulations), and you've read Good King Robert's testament then you will catch my drift. If you've had sex before and not read any medieval Scottish war strategies then you might want to get a life.
In essence, it's a 14 line poem supposedly summing up Robert the Bruce's battle tactics. It also provides a blueprint for all great Scottish rugby wins over England. An admission that they will be outpowered, they won't have the cavalry. But by subtlety and surprise they can perform a sort of guerrilla warfare. Being the favourites rather dispels that possibility. Scotland's victories, until last year at least, seem largely to have been the result of being irritating in the breakdown, niggly at set piece and a couple of moments of magic.
The difference is, this time, we have a handful of players who are used to being the favourites on the big occasions. Russell, Hogg and Gray for example are used to it al club level. Most of them, have had experience of being favourites against Tier One opposition for Scotland. Maitland is another but he has been bizarrely overlooked. The other issue we've faced in the past is that our players have been experienced in numbers of caps but not occasions. It's all very well having 50 caps but if 30 of them are Six Nations drubbings and a further 15 are gimmes against Tier 2 nations with a smattering of victories against Italy then that experience is not all that much to talk about. No offence Graeme Morrison, Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca.
This bunch have played big club games, some big internationals and a fair few are Test Lions. It's a decidedly unScottish Scotland team (not just Duhan Van Der Merwe) that will perhaps not be best suited to the Scottish weather. So I'm predicting a very Scottish performance to bring us all back down to earth and throw egg in my earlier self who bet a foolish amount of money on a Scotland win.
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123456789. wrote:My annual resistance has crumbled and I'm back for the Six Nations.
It seems there's two relatively skilful, agile teams. Really makes one pine for the days of Perry Freshwater and Allan Jacobsen going at it between the two 10 metre lines for 80 minutes. There's shades of 2012 with this one. An experienced and settled Scotland side, going up against a relatively inexperienced new look England side. We all know what happened there. Scotland don't do well as the overdog. It doesn't suit our psyche. If you happen to be a history nerd (congratulations), and you've read Good King Robert's testament then you will catch my drift. If you've had sex before and not read any medieval Scottish war strategies then you might want to get a life.
In essence, it's a 14 line poem supposedly summing up Robert the Bruce's battle tactics. It also provides a blueprint for all great Scottish rugby wins over England. An admission that they will be outpowered, they won't have the cavalry. But by subtlety and surprise they can perform a sort of guerrilla warfare. Being the favourites rather dispels that possibility. Scotland's victories, until last year at least, seem largely to have been the result of being irritating in the breakdown, niggly at set piece and a couple of moments of magic.
The difference is, this time, we have a handful of players who are used to being the favourites on the big occasions. Russell, Hogg and Gray for example are used to it al club level. Most of them, have had experience of being favourites against Tier One opposition for Scotland. Maitland is another but he has been bizarrely overlooked. The other issue we've faced in the past is that our players have been experienced in numbers of caps but not occasions. It's all very well having 50 caps but if 30 of them are Six Nations drubbings and a further 15 are gimmes against Tier 2 nations with a smattering of victories against Italy then that experience is not all that much to talk about. No offence Graeme Morrison, Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca.
This bunch have played big club games, some big internationals and a fair few are Test Lions. It's a decidedly unScottish Scotland team (not just Duhan Van Der Merwe) that will perhaps not be best suited to the Scottish weather. So I'm predicting a very Scottish performance to bring us all back down to earth and throw egg in my earlier self who bet a foolish amount of money on a Scotland win.
Excellent post numbers - welcome back!
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Anyone seen thew ridiculous try from Arundel in the U20s match? If senior Scotland give Steward that much space it wont matter if he runs like a turnip.
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Numbers!!!!RDW wrote:123456789. wrote:My annual resistance has crumbled and I'm back for the Six Nations.
It seems there's two relatively skilful, agile teams. Really makes one pine for the days of Perry Freshwater and Allan Jacobsen going at it between the two 10 metre lines for 80 minutes. There's shades of 2012 with this one. An experienced and settled Scotland side, going up against a relatively inexperienced new look England side. We all know what happened there. Scotland don't do well as the overdog. It doesn't suit our psyche. If you happen to be a history nerd (congratulations), and you've read Good King Robert's testament then you will catch my drift. If you've had sex before and not read any medieval Scottish war strategies then you might want to get a life.
In essence, it's a 14 line poem supposedly summing up Robert the Bruce's battle tactics. It also provides a blueprint for all great Scottish rugby wins over England. An admission that they will be outpowered, they won't have the cavalry. But by subtlety and surprise they can perform a sort of guerrilla warfare. Being the favourites rather dispels that possibility. Scotland's victories, until last year at least, seem largely to have been the result of being irritating in the breakdown, niggly at set piece and a couple of moments of magic.
The difference is, this time, we have a handful of players who are used to being the favourites on the big occasions. Russell, Hogg and Gray for example are used to it al club level. Most of them, have had experience of being favourites against Tier One opposition for Scotland. Maitland is another but he has been bizarrely overlooked. The other issue we've faced in the past is that our players have been experienced in numbers of caps but not occasions. It's all very well having 50 caps but if 30 of them are Six Nations drubbings and a further 15 are gimmes against Tier 2 nations with a smattering of victories against Italy then that experience is not all that much to talk about. No offence Graeme Morrison, Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca.
This bunch have played big club games, some big internationals and a fair few are Test Lions. It's a decidedly unScottish Scotland team (not just Duhan Van Der Merwe) that will perhaps not be best suited to the Scottish weather. So I'm predicting a very Scottish performance to bring us all back down to earth and throw egg in my earlier self who bet a foolish amount of money on a Scotland win.
Excellent post numbers - welcome back!
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Pray for the fans at Murrayfield today
Summer rugby anyone?
Summer rugby anyone?
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tigertattie wrote:Pray for the fans at Murrayfield today
Summer rugby anyone?
'Heavy rain and a fresh breeze 5C'
Fun.
But imagine how depressing this time of year could be without the rugby
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Well, I've wakened with that sense of dread that presages a resounding England victory.
Oh well, we're doomed. Doomed I say.
No point in even watching.
Mind, I've put beers in the fridge
Best not to waste them.
Maybe it won't be too humiliating.
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Oh well, we're doomed. Doomed I say.
No point in even watching.
Mind, I've put beers in the fridge
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Maybe it won't be too humiliating.
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Could be the best Six Nations ever. Four teams are realistic contenders, Wales have the capacity to surprise, and Italy will offer a nice week off to every opponent they play.
Narrowly favouring Scotland today. England have picked a creative team for attritional conditions
Narrowly favouring Scotland today. England have picked a creative team for attritional conditions
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When Duhan does press ups, he doesn't push himself up.tigertattie wrote:You don’t need maths or spreadsheets or slide rules or any form of measuring apparatus to know that Duhan’s gonna get ye
He pushes the world down.
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George Carlin wrote:When Duhan does press ups, he doesn't push himself up.tigertattie wrote:You don’t need maths or spreadsheets or slide rules or any form of measuring apparatus to know that Duhan’s gonna get ye
He pushes the world down.
Covid has to get inoculated against Duhan
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lostinwales wrote:
But imagine how depressingthis time of yearScotland could be without the rugby
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Duty281 wrote:Could be the best Six Nations ever. Four teams are realistic contenders, Wales have the capacity to surprise, and Italy will offer a nice week off to every opponent they play.
Narrowly favouring Scotland today. England have picked a creative team for attritional conditions
Is this ever not the case?
Aside from that finally England fans are recognising that they just come unstuck against Scotland regardless of the odds
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It
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Rotten
Out
Here
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Absolutely
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For our English brethren; tigertattie posts that comment on a fairly regular basis when watching Edinburgh. Come Sun or Come Rain. It's absolutely rotten watching the Luvvies.
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jimbopip wrote:For our English brethren; tigertattie posts that comment on a fairly regular basis when watching Edinburgh. Come Sun or Come Rain. It's absolutely rotten watching the Luvvies.
I’ll give you that one jimbo. Well played
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Gooseberry wrote:Duty281 wrote:Could be the best Six Nations ever. Four teams are realistic contenders, Wales have the capacity to surprise, and Italy will offer a nice week off to every opponent they play.
Narrowly favouring Scotland today. England have picked a creative team for attritional conditions
Is this ever not the case?
Aside from that finally England fans are recognising that they just come unstuck against Scotland regardless of the odds
Whilst it agree Scotland are favourites it's worth noting England have picked a backline full of players who can kick and a very mobile backrow that could easily be built for kick chasing. It's not necessarily a creative over attritional selection.
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Wales are making an early bid for the Nadine Dorries Most Embarrassing Performance Of The Week award.
Actually, even as I type there is a voice in my head asking if she possesses the self awareness to be embarrassed by her incoherent ramblings.
Actually, even as I type there is a voice in my head asking if she possesses the self awareness to be embarrassed by her incoherent ramblings.
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jimbopip wrote:Wales are making an early bid for the Nadine Dorries Most Embarrassing Performance Of The Week award.
Actually, even as I type there is a voice in my head asking if she possesses the self awareness to be embarrassed by her incoherent ramblings.
This ironically is a Nadine Doris type comment...
If you remove 12-14 first team players from any 6N team would you expect them to be competitive?
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It doesnt look pretty out there, which I think favours England but I still think Scotland should have enough to win this...
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Weather seems a touch better then.
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I thought Dorries played for Ireland?
Anyway onto the proper rugby the big question is how Smiths hair will handle the conditions.
Anyway onto the proper rugby the big question is how Smiths hair will handle the conditions.
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Scotland seem confused about the new laws.
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8 mins in and the ref has decided Scotlamd can't scrummage???
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Should’ve kept that in hand.
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England need to turn this territory into points. All over scotland so far but never close to being on the board. I guess great discipline form scotland not give any penalties away
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Gooseberry wrote:England need to turn this territory into points. All over scotland so far but never close to being on the board. I guess great discipline form scotland not give any penalties away
Couple of close high tackles like.
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Gooseberry wrote:England need to turn this territory into points. All over scotland so far but never close to being on the board. I guess great discipline form scotland not give any penalties away
It seems one of those games so far where possession and territory don't mean control...
Scotland look sound in defence, and I think when they get chances will come away with points
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Urghh. Thought that missed! 3 is the least we deserve.
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Great score
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where was the rain and mud when england needed it?
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Exactly what I just said...
Scotland take the opportunity when it came!
Scotland take the opportunity when it came!
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What a sharp try. Caught England sleeping.
Seems a bit similar to Irish-Gloucester yesterday.
Seems a bit similar to Irish-Gloucester yesterday.
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Eng ruck speed is so slow.
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Not sure that jumping across at all.
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Jumping across? The Scotland forwards drove under the lifters?
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Not sure that jumping across at all.
Case of calling the outcome not the action
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Some might've been harsh but Englands penalty count once again atrocious
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Look who the ref is though ...
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Gooseberry wrote:Some might've been harsh but Englands penalty count once again atrocious
What is it now? Thought Scotlands would be worse.
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The first offence was holding on before Zander got pinged. Ref is doing some strange reffing
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tigertattie wrote:The first offence was holding on before Zander got pinged. Ref is doing some strange reffing
This guy always does ...
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Interesting having Mr O commentating though
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