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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 30 Mar 2023, 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

Tigers Vs Edinburgh teams are up the Friday game.

STARTING XV
15 Freddie Steward [68]
14 Anthony Watson [12]
13 Guy Porter [56]
12 Jimmy Gopperth [13]
11 Harry Potter [62]
10 Handré Pollard [10]
9 Jack van Poortvliet [61]
1 James Cronin [12]
2 Julián Montoya (c) [39]
3 Dan Cole [305]
4 George Martin [54]
5 Cameron Henderson [32]
6 Hanro Liebenberg [80]
7 Tommy Reffell [95]
8 Olly Cracknell [20]

REPLACEMENTS
16 Charlie Clare [74]
17 Tom West [6]
18 Joe Heyes [119]
19 Eli Snyman [31]
20 Jasper Wiese [56]
21 Sam Wolstenholme *
22 Charlie Atkinson [14]
23 Dan Kelly [51]


15. Emiliano Boffelli (28)
14. Darcy Graham (57)
13. Mark Bennett (85)
12. James Lang (36)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (72)

10. Blair Kinghorn (131)
9. Henry Pyrgos (81)

1. Pierre Schoeman (95)
2. Stuart McInally (174)
3. WP Nel (185)
4. Sam Skinner (11)
5. Grant Gilchrist (187) Co-captain
6. Jamie Ritchie (95) Co-captain
7. Hamish Watson (137)
8. Viliame Mata (113)

Replacements

16. Dave Cherry (68)
17. Boan Venter (43)
18. Luan de Bruin (19)
19. Marshall Sykes (39)
20. Luke Crosbie (83)
21. Ben Vellacott (36)
22. Cammy Hutchison (18)
23. Damien Hoyland (104)

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Post by Heaf Sat 01 Apr 2023, 5:10 pm

Difficult to draw too many conclusions from the late scores by Quins but had the 3 tries Stormers shouldn't have scored not been allowed and a PT given to Quins near the end of the first half it could have been very different.

It's difficult to know what to do about the appalling officiating we're seeing week-in week-out - much of it involving TMOs who don't have the excuse of trying to see everything in real-time.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 01 Apr 2023, 8:21 pm

Quins were dominated and Stormers took their foot off the gas towards the end. Fourie played the ref fantastically. The Quins pack couldn't match up physically.

La Rochelle Vs Glaws was a great game, couple of decisions didn't go Glaws way for which they might feel somewhat aggrieved. End to end stuff with a nice mix of the flamboyant and the gritty. Something for everyone.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 01 Apr 2023, 8:25 pm

Wonderful tributes for Peter Thomas through the latter half of the week. Touching words from Dai at the beginning of the week, and we get to this evening, they must have been close over the years.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 01 Apr 2023, 8:26 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Quins were dominated and Stormers took their foot off the gas towards the end. Fourie played the ref fantastically. The Quins pack couldn't match up physically.

La Rochelle Vs Glaws was a great game, couple of decisions didn't go Glaws way for which they might feel somewhat aggrieved. End to end stuff with a nice mix of the flamboyant and the gritty. Something for everyone.

We’ve seen this from Stormers since they entered the URC. They play so fast and have a good set piece, it’s difficult to stop. We always see them race into an early lead, win the match in one half, then drop off towards the end.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 01 Apr 2023, 10:14 pm

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Heaf wrote:Quins arguably should have had a PT there too - Stormers player on the ground played the ball and stopped an almost certain pick up and score ...

Again, it was right in front of the linesman and completely obvious, you can only assume that he doesn't know the rules?

They normally arent very good this year

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 01 Apr 2023, 10:16 pm

Was at the Leinster v Ulster game. Ulster fans were class. Shame two Irish teams have to meet so early in the comp.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 12:57 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Quins were dominated and Stormers took their foot off the gas towards the end. Fourie played the ref fantastically. The Quins pack couldn't match up physically.

La Rochelle Vs Glaws was a great game, couple of decisions didn't go Glaws way for which they might feel somewhat aggrieved. End to end stuff with a nice mix of the flamboyant and the gritty. Something for everyone.

Think more than somewhat ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 12:58 pm

Just watching Chiefs v Montpellier - seems forward passes are acceptable again.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:15 pm

TMO trying to get a try disallowed after awarded by the ref ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:33 pm

Exeter probably should have had that Simmonds try overruled. Though given the infield decision hard to say it was definitely held up....but he blatantly didn't get it down.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:45 pm

Ref said he saw it down - nothing in the footage to conclusively overrule ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:48 pm

They also should have looked at the pop pass for Montpellier's first try ... close but worth a look at least.

Also when they played out from behind their line another forward pass ...


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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:48 pm

ohhh - red for Mercer

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:52 pm

Not sure why Chiefs didn't take the points for the lead ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 1:59 pm

Nice hands for that try

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:21 pm

Fair play to TMO there to spot that one

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:24 pm

Don't know why the commentators are fixating on whether a forward pass was touched by a Chiefs player - if the pass was forwards, it was forwards ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:25 pm

Montpellier not giving up though ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:36 pm

Extra time ... phew I'm tired just watching this

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:47 pm

Really strange decision from Yeandle, they were marching over the line, why not stay with the maul?
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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:54 pm

Montpellier mugged the ref there - jackler stepped away just as he was about to be cleared out - not a pen

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:56 pm

And they score after the resulting field position ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 2:58 pm

Chiefs should have put Montpellier away with an extra man for all that time ... blew a try from maul over the line, then left themselves open for a mistake by the ref to cost them a try ...

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:01 pm

What a bloody game!
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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:02 pm

Heavyweights out on their feet trading blows, unbelievably good watch.
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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:03 pm

I need a rest now ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:05 pm

Have to give it to Montpellier for staying in it all that time with 14 men ...

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:11 pm

Heaf wrote:Have to give it to Montpellier for staying in it all that time with 14 men ...

Indeed, some of their English players showed up well too, Langdon could be a real boon for Saints and England next season.


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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:11 pm

Just on to Sarries now - can't believe they took the 3 when Ospreys just got a warning

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:13 pm

Good play by Ospreys, sound like they've brought a lot of fans with them.
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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:15 pm

Followed by the curse of the restart

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:20 pm

Some strong defence by Ospreys to keep Sarries out ...

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:22 pm

This scrum has wasted about three minutes, a blight on the game when it is like this.
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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm

Seems the gate in euro rugby is about 180 degrees wide ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:38 pm

So next pen is a yellow except when it's not ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:40 pm

Hmmm think they should have tapped and gone again - probably 7 points and/or yellow card

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:42 pm

Heaf wrote:So next pen is a yellow except when it's not ...

Well the yellow card has come out now.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:44 pm

Why would Sarries bring their own maul down when it's heading for the line?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:47 pm

Nice finish.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:50 pm

Took their time to review but finally got it right

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:51 pm

Heaf wrote:Why would Sarries bring their own maul down when it's heading for the line?

I couldn't see how brought it down but sometimes players do slip and bring their own side down.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 3:57 pm

Agreed - just didn't look like that to me - but I suppose the ref has a better view ...

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:11 pm

Billy Butterfingers today ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:13 pm

Ref just bottling scrum decisions even when his assistants are helping.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:16 pm

Sarries very sloppy today

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:18 pm

Saracens need to make some of these half breaks stick. They've left an awful lot of points on the pitch.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:19 pm

Urgh. Just seen that clear out and Ackemans leg.

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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:19 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Ref just bottling scrum decisions even when his assistants are helping.

Sarries not getting any reward for their dominance there.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:23 pm

Good try that, delicate kick from Goode and they did well to finish it.
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Post by Heaf Sun 02 Apr 2023, 4:23 pm

They made that one stick - nicely done

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