2023 Ashes Series Tipping Competition

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The 2023 Ashes Tipping Competition

The Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both England and Australia who you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings; so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Root, Bairstow, Robinson, Anderson
Labuschagne, Head, Cummins, Boland

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers, for the most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Pope, Green

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
England (Bairstow) or Australia (Carey) or the same number of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
England

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or bowl/field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the Ashes Test result.
e.g.
England or Australia or Draw

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 25 points for 100 runs.
extra 30 points for 150 runs.
extra 45 points for 200 runs.
extra 60 points for 250 runs.
extra 125 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting: (per innings)
100 runs = 125 points. A player scores 137 runs + 25 = 162 points.
150 runs = 205 points. A player scores 177 runs + 25 + 30 = 232 points.
200 runs = 300 points. A player scores 243 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 = 343 points.
250 runs = 410 points. A player scores 282 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 442 points
300+ runs = 585 points. A player scores 321 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 125 = 606 points.

Bowling: (per innings)
25 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 30 points for 6-fer, 45 for 7-fer, 60 for 8-fer, 75 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 125 points + 50 = 175 points
6 wickets = 150 points + 50 + 30 = 230 points.
7 wickets = 175 points + 50 + 30 + 45 = 300 points
8 wickets = 200 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 385 points
9 wickets = 225 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 = 485 points
10 wickets = 250 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 + 100 = 610 points

Caught and bowled = 25 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 50 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsman earns you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for the correct selection for the most dismissals across both innings.
Or if you think the wicket keepers will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then you earn 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 25 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 25 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test match = 125 points.
b) If you guess all 5 Test match outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 625 + 125 = 750 points.
c) Correctly predict a "Draw" = 125 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped).
It doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points up until the point of the replacement of the injured player from the field – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

June 16 - 20, 2023: 1st Test at Edgbaston. Australia won by 2 wickets [0-1]

June 28 - July 2, 2023: 2nd Test at Lord's. Australia won by 43 runs [0-2]

July 6 - 10, 2023: 3rd Test at Headingley. England won by 3 wickets [1-2]

July 19 -23, 2023: 4th Test at Old Trafford. Match Drawn [1-2]

July 27 - 31, 2023: 5th Test at The Oval. England won by 49 runs [2-2]


*****

Good luck with your selections!

Imagine where I'd be if Labuschane hadn't gone first ball

Marky wrote:Imagine where I'd be if Labuschane hadn't gone first ball

Yeah, that's the beauty of this comp.
Eirebilly also has Marnus so you still could have been neck and neck.  

Interesting day ahead. There'll be some movement on the scoreboard (on the field and on here) for sure.
Often get some massive swings in a short space of time.

Saw myself at the bottom and thought there must be a mistake because I felt like I 'd had a better day than that. But I actually got the third best day score so clearly it's just the level of competition...

Points Table
1st Test, Edgbaston, Day 4:

1075 Chris [393]
1029 Soul Requiem [333]
951 Eirebilly [359]
948 KP_Fan [349]
907 Marky [315]
859 Compelling and Rich [296]
823 Guildfordbat [311]
818 Duty [281]
788 Alfie [310]
784 Pal Joey [275]
766 Tino [224]
759 JDizzle [250]
734 Superflyweight [263]
734 King Carlos [275]
727 Afro [277]
701 James [231]
693 Lowlandbrit [243]
690 Olly [237]

Average score: 821 [290]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Chris winning, me last

This is a nightmare

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Chris winning, me last

This is a nightmare

Olly - come on, what have I taught you?! Just like you don't win a Test on the first morning, you don't win Joey's comp in the first 3 days. Mind you, you can lose it!!

guildfordbat wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Chris winning, me last

This is a nightmare

Olly - come on, what have I taught you?! Just like you don't win a Test on the first morning, you don't win Joey's comp in the first 3 days. Mind you, you can lose it!!

Do you both realise how hard it is for me to ask my secretary to type this up?

"Who's this Olly chap... one of your tortoise mates in England?"

"Ahh yeah, just some Pommie bloke who was on top of his game last year but appears to have fallen down some sort of a hole this year.
He'll be back. Poor form is temporary; class is permanent.

Points Table
1st Test, Edgbaston, Day 5:

1416 Chris [341] # *
1353 KP_Fan [405] # *
1236 Soul Requiem [207] *
1185 Compelling and Rich [326] # *
1160 Duty [342] # *
1149 Eirebilly [198] *
1149 Guildfordbat [326] # *
1098 Pal Joey [314] # *
1063 JDizzle [304] # *
1060 Superflyweight [326] # *
1046 Marky [139] *
1025 Olly [335] # *
983 Tino [217] *
977 James [276] #
936 Alfie [148]
906 King Carlos [172]
894 Afro [167]
789 Lowlandbrit [96]

Average score: 1078 [256]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

# Australia win = 125 points
* Carey most dismissals = 50 points
(Carey: 6 caught behinds, 3 stumpings; Bairstow: 5 caught behinds)


Special Team Scores for the First Test at Edgbaston are as follows:

England:
1272 - average player score 115.60

Australia:
1224 - average player score 111.30

Note:
England scored more player points... but conceded 25 more extras than Australia.
Extras - England 44, Australia 19
Non w/k catches - England 6, Australia 3

Top 11 Individual Player Scores: (using the special formula for catches, run outs, w/k dismissals)

229 Root [229]
217 Lyon [217]
206 Khawaja [206]
182 Cummins [182]
176 Broad [176]
176 Carey [176]
169 Robinson [169]
148 Bairstow [148]
131 Green [131]
114 Stokes [114]
112 Ali [112]

Followed by: Crawley (88), Brook (78), Hazlewood (76), Boland (70), Head (66), Pope (65)

Notes:
Chris, who scored 341 points on the final day, leads the table on 1416 points.    
He has a 63-point lead over KP_Fan on 1353, who top scored on Day 5 with 405 points.  
Duty had a good day as well, scoring 342 points, as did Olly with 335 points.
I think we all deserve a good lie down to recover in time for the 2nd Test at Lord's which starts next Wednesday.

Thanks for participating everyone!

Is it too early for me to declare?

superflyweight wrote:Is it too early for me to declare?

Don't tell me you're playing Bazball on here too, Super.  

I thought you were the more traditional type but now I'm more wary of unexpected and unorthodox radical twists in your forthcoming picks.

1) Australia: Smith, Head; Cummins, Starc
England: Root, Brook; Broad, Robinson

2) Fielders: Green and Root

3) Carey

4) England to win the toss and bowl first

5) Australia to win the test

England: Root and Bairstow. Tongue and Robinson.
Australia: Smith and Head. Cummins and Lyon.

2) Smith & Root

3) Carey

4) Australia win toss and bat

5) Australia

1.
Root, Stokes, Anderson, Robinson
Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, Hazelwood

2.
Smith, Root

3.
Bairstow

4.
England, bowl

5.
England

Cheers PJ!

guildfordbat wrote:Excellent work again, Joey. You know most of my guys already but to confirm -

1) Australia: Labuschange, Smith; Cummins, Starc
England: Root, Brook; Robinson, Broad

2) Fielders: Smith and Pope

3) Carey

4) Australia to win the toss and bat

5) Australia to win the Test.

Hi Joey - for T2, exactly the same as I originally chose for T1. Thanks.

PS and Edit: Boland again if Australia are rash enough to repeat the unthinkable.

Aus
Carey & Green
Cummins and Boland ( Hazlewood if no Boland)

Eng
Bairstow & Root
Anderson & Robinson

WK
Carey

Catchers
Green & Root

Aus win the Toss & Bowl First
Aus Win

Aus
Smith & khawaja
Cummins and Boland (starc if no Boland)

Eng
Brook & Root
Anderson & Broad

WK
Carey

Catchers
Green & Root

Eng win the Toss & Bowl First
Aus Win

Thanks for your selections everyone.

England: Root, Bairstow, Broad, Robinson
Australia: Smith, Head, Green, Cummins

Root, Green

Carey

Australia, bowl first

Australia

I've amended a couple of mine Pee Jay. Partly to annoy you but mainly just a change of heart.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I've amended a couple of mine Pee Jay. Partly to annoy you but mainly just a change of heart.

That's fine, mate.
Have a feeling there's going to be a late rush once the Aussies name their side.
Feel free to tweak some more right up until the toss.

What's the weather like?

Pal Joey wrote:
What's the weather like?

Grey and cloudy, but not looking too much like rain at the minute. Definitely feels like a bowl first whilst the pitch is greener.

Thurs and Fri weather similar, slightly more chance of rain atm, then brighter on sat and sun

Root, Bairstow, Khawaja, Green
Broad, Tongue, Cummins, Starc (or Boland if Starc doesn't play)

Root, Green

Carey

England, bowl first

England

Thanks Afro.
Sounds so tempting to have a bowl first but I expect some sort of sporting decision at the toss.
Stokes is more of a risk taker but even Cummins might want to bowl first if he wins the toss.
So should be good batting last if the first 2 innings go through quickly again... given the weekend weather outlook.

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks Afro.
Sounds so tempting to have a bowl first but I expect some sort of sporting decision at the toss.
Stokes is more of a risk taker but even Cummins might want to bowl first if he wins the toss.
So should be good batting last if the first 2 innings go through quickly again... given the weekend weather outlook.

Might be the proverbial good test to lose

Afro wrote:Root, Bairstow, Khawaja, Green
Broad, Tongue, Cummins, Starc (or Boland if Starc doesn't play)

Root, Green

Carey

England, bowl first

England

Sorry, can I change that to Hazlewood if Starc doesn't play

Afro wrote:

Afro wrote:Root, Bairstow, Khawaja, Green
Broad, Tongue, Cummins, Starc (or Boland if Starc doesn't play)

Root, Green

Carey

England, bowl first

England

Sorry, can I change that to Hazlewood if Starc doesn't play

Yeah sure.

1) Australia: Smith, Warner; Cummins, Starc (Hazelwood if Starc out)
England: Root, Brook; Broad, Tongue

2) Fielders: Green and Root

3) Bairstow

4) England to win the toss and bowl first

5) England to win the test

1. Head, Khawaja, Cummins, Lyon
Root, Bairstow, Broad, Anderson

2. Green, Stokes

3. Carey

4. England to win and bowl

5. Draw

Aus
Smith and Labuschagne
Cummins and Starc (Boland if no Starc)

Eng
Root and Brook
Anderson and Robinson

WK
Carey

Catchers
Smith and Root

Eng win the Toss & Bowl First
Aus Win

Smith Green Cummins Lyon
Root Stokes Anderson Robinson

Smith Crawley

Bairstow

England win toss and bowl

England win

Lowlandbrit wrote:Pope, Brook, Anderson, Robinson
Smith, Carey, Cummins, Boland

Crawley
Green

Bairstow

Eng
Field

Draw

Same again, thank you. Green if the Oz selectors don't let me.

Smith, Green, Cummins, Hazlewood
Brook, Root, Anderson, Robinson

Smith, Crawley

Carey

Australia, bowl

Australia


Cheers PJ

Lowlandbrit wrote:

Lowlandbrit wrote:Pope, Brook, Anderson, Robinson
Smith, Carey, Cummins, Boland

Crawley
Green

Bairstow

Eng
Field

Draw

Same again, thank you. Green if the Oz selectors don't let me.

You mean Green if no Boland, yeah?

Smith Head Cummins Lyon
Root Brook Anderson Robinson

Warner Root

Bairstow

Australia win toss and bowl

Australia win

England: Root, Bairstow, Anderson, Robinson
Australia: Smith, Marnus, Green, Cummins

Root, Green

Bairstow

England, bowl first

England

Well at least I have got the toss right this time

I swear one of these days I'll remember to do this without prompting. Sorry (again) Joey!

1) Root and Stokes, Anderson and Robinson; Smith and Head, Cummins and Hazelwood

2) Root and Green

3) Bairstow

4) N/A

5) England win

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Thanks for this Joey, and congrats in advance to C&R - who hopefully gets wifi in the hospital

1) Australia: Smith, Head, Green, Lyon
England: Pope, Brook, Moeen, Robinson

2) Fielders: Warner and Root

3) Carey

4) Australia to win the toss and bat

5) Australia to win

Give me this but Broad for Moeen please PJ

of course i changed labuschange out for khawaja

Points Table
2nd Test, Lord's, Day 1:

1653 Chris [237]
1473 Soul Requiem [237]
1450 Eirebilly [301] *#
1447 Duty [287] *#
1439 KP_Fan [86]
1387 Compelling and Rich [202] *#
1356 Guildfordbat [232]
1335 Pal Joey [237]
1317 Superflyweight [257] *#
1270 Tino [287]
1240 Marky [194] *#
1234 James [257] *#
1223 JDizzle [160]
1212 Olly [187]
1163 King Carlos [257] *#
1146 Alfie [210] *#
1061 Afro [167] *#
960 Lowlandbrit [171] *#

* denotes correct pick England win toss
# denotes correct pick England elected to bowl/field

Average score: 1298 [220]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
Chris stretches his lead out to 180 with Soul now in 2nd place.
Eirebilly top scored for the day with 301 points.

Ha. Another rather mouldy day for my lot...I haven't given up on England yet but am already resigned to a very lowly spot in this competition

Chris is indeed flying !

PJ quick as ever with the scores

You started the day well, alfie... but there's still hope yet. Your prayers might be answered. 

compelling and rich wrote:of course i changed labuschange out for khawaja

and I dropped Lyon (for no compelling reason) and went with Green instead. I must have rocks in my Head!

Lowland, Olly and Guilford

Please let me know your replacement for Ollie Pope - just in case we don't see him back on the field either today or for the rest of the match.
Hope he's OK.

Cheers, Joey.

Stokes for Pope.

I'll probably need to let you know before the end who the sub for Stokes is!

guildfordbat wrote:Cheers, Joey.

Stokes for Pope.

I'll probably need to let you know before the end who the sub for Stokes is!

and maybe have another spare ready for Robinson... before he gets wheeled off to the Wellness Retreat.

As the only person still in three figures I'll stick by my team and promote Crawley from the field.

Lowlandbrit wrote:As the only person still in three figures I'll stick by my team and promote Crawley from the field.

Thanks Lowland.

You'll smash that barrier at some stage today... for sure.

Points Table
2nd Test, Lord's, Day 2:

1881 Chris [228]
1757 Soul Requiem [284]
1705 Duty [258]
1683 Eirebilly [233]
1636 KP_Fan [197]
1620 Compelling and Rich [233]
1589 Guildfordbat [233]
1575 Superflyweight [258]
1542 Pal Joey [207]
1531 Olly [319]
1484 Tino [214]
1479 JDizzle [256]
1462 James [228]
1377 Alfie [231]
1370 King Carlos [207]
1354 Marky [114]
1242 Lowlandbrit [282]
1224 Afro [163]

Average score: 1528 [230]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
Olly top scored on Day 2 with 319 points, followed by Soul (284) and Lowlandbrit (282)
For those who gave me their sub for Pope (batting) I used Crawley for Lowland (+6 cf. Pope's score)
Olly - I used Ollie Pope's score for you (as you originally selected)
Guildford - wait and see when England take the field. Have Stokes as your spare catcher; if no Pope.
Alfie, Marky, Olly, Soul and Tino - please post up your sub for Lyon. Looks like he won't be back.

If Lyon is indeed out for the count I will replace him with ... Starc ?

Without much confidence ; but I already have Green as a batsman , and claiming Head or Marnus as a bowler would be a trick that even KP_fan might think a bit sneaky

OK, alfie. Yeah, not looking promising for Lyon.
Starc it is then... you'll start collecting his points from now on (Day 3) onwards.
And Guildford will be even more proud of you... all competition aside.  

(note: if there is some miracle and Lyon returns... we can sort that out later. Same for everyone else who has him)

I'll replace with Dennis Lillie. After that I'll have Merv Hughes.

3rd choice is Josh Hazlewood.