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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 27 Jul 2024, 3:00 am

Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Jul 2024, 4:27 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Tue 30 Jul 2024, 7:24 am

doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..

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Post by doctor_grey Tue 30 Jul 2024, 10:53 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Most people have. In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.

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Post by doctor_grey Tue 30 Jul 2024, 10:53 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.

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Post by Pete330v2 Wed 31 Jul 2024, 10:47 am

It was only France and Ireland that didn't want any dealings with Qatar. England, Scotland, Wales and the SANZAAR countries were all willing to go ahead with the deal.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/sanzaar-could-demand-compensation-from-six-nations-after-800m-qatar-deal-fails-report

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Wed 31 Jul 2024, 2:23 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 02 Aug 2024, 9:06 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.
So, do you think Rugby did the right thing?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 03 Aug 2024, 9:35 am

doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.
So, do you think Rugby did the right thing?
In this instance yeah absolutely. Fans are already against the idea of a world league in the first place, so it's important to get the finals in the right countries.

But in general rugby would be absolutely foolish to not take money for the middle East. This idea that it's more morally acceptable to take money certain places over others, is honestly complete delusion.

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Post by doctor_grey Tue 06 Aug 2024, 11:29 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.
So, do you think Rugby did the right thing?
In this instance yeah absolutely. Fans are already against the idea of a world league in the first place, so it's important to get the finals in the right countries.

But in general rugby would be absolutely foolish to not take money for the middle East. This idea that it's more morally acceptable to take money certain places over others, is honestly complete delusion.
I disagree. I am no idealist - at least that's how my last army psych eval reads - but some messages are important. Some money is fine and then there is dirty money.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Wed 07 Aug 2024, 12:54 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.
So, do you think Rugby did the right thing?
In this instance yeah absolutely. Fans are already against the idea of a world league in the first place, so it's important to get the finals in the right countries.

But in general rugby would be absolutely foolish to not take money for the middle East. This idea that it's more morally acceptable to take money certain places over others, is honestly complete delusion.
I disagree.  I am no idealist - at least that's how my last army psych eval reads - but some messages are important.  Some money is fine and then there is dirty money.  
Dirty money like from HSBC, who sponsored the likes of the sevens and lions for years ? It doesn't get much dirtier than that.

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Post by doctor_grey Wed 07 Aug 2024, 4:52 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:Chris Foy of the Daily Mail claims an exclusive on news World Rugby will reject a rumoured £800 million from Qatar to host the first four Nations Championships.

Foy says rugby got cold feet over LIV-style reputational issues, and may also have had some approaches from less controversial financiers, including sovereign wealth funds. Qatar had exclusivity, so World Rugby would need to end negotiations to investigate any other options.
Interesting.  The financially weakest sport shows principles and is declining to do business with some of the same actors other sport have embraced.  Good on us.
Rugby has already taken plenty of money from the middle East though..
Many organisations have.  In the here and now, though, Rugby is doing the right thing.
Rugby has no moral high ground over any sport, none.
So, do you think Rugby did the right thing?
In this instance yeah absolutely. Fans are already against the idea of a world league in the first place, so it's important to get the finals in the right countries.

But in general rugby would be absolutely foolish to not take money for the middle East. This idea that it's more morally acceptable to take money certain places over others, is honestly complete delusion.
I disagree.  I am no idealist - at least that's how my last army psych eval reads - but some messages are important.  Some money is fine and then there is dirty money.  
Dirty money like from HSBC, who sponsored the likes of the sevens and lions for years ? It doesn't get much dirtier than that.
You are right - laundering money for the Mexican drug cartels is illegal, and more importantly, totally and morally unacceptable. Rugby should not have and should not now do business with any organisation which does.

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