Freddie Roach: Haye has a great chance if he starts fast

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Original article by James Slater


Ace trainer of champions Freddie Roach has earned a reputation as a guy who is capable of making darned good pre-fight predictions. Often getting the exact round right when calling the outcome of a fight, Roach has proven time and again how he knows his stuff.

In light of this, it’s no surprise top boxing writer Gareth A Davies of The Telegraph wanted to get Freddie’s opinion on the outcome of the fight everyone is talking about right now: Wladimir Klitschko Vs. David Haye. And, in speaking exclusively with the newspaper, Roach made it clear he gives “The Hayemaker” a very good chance indeed.

“The key to this fight for Haye is to take Wladimir’s confidence away, and do it early,” Roach said to Davies. “I think Haye has a great opportunity if he goes out there early and uses his power, and tries to take Wladimir’s confidence away. Haye needs to take that window of opportunity.”

Roach went on to explain how he once worked with Wladimir and that he and Haye are friends of his. Quite alarmingly, however, Roach shared with the publication a story regarding something Wladimir said to him one day when the two were working together.

“I said to him one day - ‘You’re a great athlete,’” Roach said. “You know what he said to me? ‘I wish I could fight.’

It is this perceived lack of true self belief on Wladimir’s part that Roach feels Haye can exploit with a fast, authoritative, explosive start. Roach is a true believer in mental strength and in the interview it sure comes across like Freddie feels Wladimir is weaker than Haye is in this area. But will Haye be able to jump right on Klitschko like Roach feels he has to?

Other big-punching heavyweights have tried to take the heat right to “Dr. Steel Hammer” ever since Corrie Sanders shocked him inside a couple of rounds in 2003. Guess what? They have all failed. Haye may be a lot faster than Sam Peter and Ruslan Chagaev, and he may have more power than Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd, but does he have either the chin Peter and Chagaev have (or had) or the defensive prowess Byrd and “Fast” Eddie knew how to make use of?

Roach stopped short of predicting a round, but he said enough to give Haye fans added hope. Roach feels Haye must do it early or run the risk of being beaten once Wladimir gets into his rhythm. And Haye himself has made no secret of the fact that he intends to come out blazing with both hands. This is probably the WBA champ’s best chance of adding the Ring Magazine, IBF, WBO and IBO belts to his collection. But what if Haye walks onto something hard as he tries to unload his own artillery?

I think, if Haye does indeed come out slugging, this fight will come down to who lands a bomb first. Can we expect a sensationally exciting, short and sweet slugfest? Let’s hope so! Roach says the fight is a good one for the division and that a Haye win will be the best result for boxing because he is exciting whereas the Klitschkos are “boring.”

I can’t see the rapidly approaching fight being in any way boring; whoever wins.


Regards

Steffan

Difference is, I can't ever remember Windy and Jeff arguing in the manner that Truss and Lescargo used to go at it

I keep changing my mind on this one. If Haye fights on the back foot like against Valuev, which I think he will, he has a chance. Haye is a great finisher and if he ever gets Wlad in trouble I think it will be fight over. He'll be on his bike for most of the fight and fight in bursts, hoping that if or when he hurts Wlad he'll have enough in the tank to follow up with everything he's got. I can't see him coming out and swinging for the fences because he has stamina issues and if it gets past 4 and Wlad is still there then Haye will have nothing left, also if he walks straight into one of Wlad's big shots its all over. The problem with the hit and run tactics for Haye is that he will lose every round unless he lands something that at least wobbles Wlad and if Wlad knows he's ahead he is more than capable of spoiling for a few rounds and taking a decision in Germany. Also I expect Haye to hit the canvas at some stage from a jab as he sometimes gets caught off balance and Wlad's jab is top drawer which will really hurt him if it goes to the cards.

Did you watch ringside where Booth and Haye were sparring in the ring? Booth had these crazy goth boots on which makes him about 6 inches taller! Looked like a right plonker! Haha!!

Adam Booth just has to get out of bed in the morning to look a right plonker.

Lescargo...

don't give me ideas..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Lescargo...

don't give me ideas..

Then you merged the 2 and became...Trusscargo

Thanks lads, nice to see you all on board still, I know its a long shot but I think Booth might think Haye has the legs on Wlad, looking forward to it.
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I don't think that's the case, if he thinks it then fair enough, but a local trainer who i was talking to last week, who used to train my brother used to go to Crystal Palace with the England squads, worked with Haye, Macklin, Mitchell, etc said Haye even as a young amateur had no stamina after a few rounds of throwing bombs, he used to get gassed out in sparring, etc. I think he'll win, but for Haye to be on his bike throwing bombs from round 1 spells would be madness imo, he needs to save energy, because i do not for one second think he's fit enough to throw bombs for 12 rounds. He imo should throw bombs at spells, whilst getting in close.

Wladimir I'm sure is working on the premise that Haye 'from the streets' is going to come out blasting and will just back off and pot shot with the jab which tends to break peoples hearts after 3 or 4 rounds of having it regulaly arrive in their face. A fighter who needs to land early is at a real disadvantage as apart from one who knows he can score regulaly and at range.

Wladimir I'm sure is working on the premise that Haye 'from the streets' is going to come out blasting and will just back off and pot shot with the jab which tends to break peoples hearts after 3 or 4 rounds of having it regulaly arrive in their face. A fighter who needs to land early is at a real disadvantage as apart from one who knows he can score regulaly and at range.
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good point, the jab is definitely a problem for Haye, it's alright saying jab jab grab and all that nonsense, that Jab is quality though, and getting out the way of it is essential

I thinks it's too predictable to say haye will come out swinging looking to end it early. I think both he and Adam Booth are far cuter than that. Haye knows one punch isn't enough, he knows if he unloads too much too early he'll have nothing left in the tank if he finds wlad survives.

I'd bet everything haye fights cautious for at least 3 rounds, sizing wlad up, assessing the range etc. Even after this period he'll still be cagey, circling out of range and looking for openings to burst inside and unload the quick power shots. If he wobbles wlad I'd back him to end it - he's a brutal finisher when his man is in trouble. If wlad is quick enough on the back foot to move out of Hayes range when he jumps forward then he'll just smother his work and wear him down. Haye will have to be cautious, clever and patient to win this fight. I doubt he'll get many chances to land the big punches so he'll have to use them well and be careful not to burn himself out as wlad will be looking to fight the long game.

I'm looking at a cheeky poke on haye rounds 4-6 @13/2 and a bigger bet on wlad rounds 10-12 @9/1.

I thinks it's too predictable to say haye will come out swinging looking to end it early. I think both he and Adam Booth are far cuter than that. Haye knows one punch isn't enough, he knows if he unloads too much too early he'll have nothing left in the tank if he finds wlad survives.
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Yeah i think 1 punch will be enough, i have absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever if Haye lands just 1 of his best punches on Wlad's tash, it's fight over. I dont mean a knockout job straight off, just he'll jump on Wladimir, and that's how i think the fight ends, Haye will tag him clean and drop him, he'll get up and Haye will land his combinations prompting the referee to jump in.

Young_Towzer wrote:I thinks it's too predictable to say haye will come out swinging looking to end it early. I think both he and Adam Booth are far cuter than that. Haye knows one punch isn't enough, he knows if he unloads too much too early he'll have nothing left in the tank if he finds wlad survives.
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Yeah i think 1 punch will be enough, i have absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever if Haye lands just 1 of his best punches on Wlad's tash, it's fight over. I dont mean a knockout job straight off, just he'll jump on Wladimir, and that's how i think the fight ends, Haye will tag him clean and drop him, he'll get up and Haye will land his combinations prompting the referee to jump in.

Thats what I said towzer, one punch won't be enough - he won't spark him with one shot, if he catches him clean he'll wobble him and need to jump on him to get the job done.