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Post by Guest Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:30 pm

leading on from shanky's thrill a minute xi, who would be in the most defensive test xi of all time, i will say mine, let me know what u think and also make your own Smile

1)Geoffrey Boycott
2)Tharanga Parantivana
3)Mudassar Nazar
4)Simon Katich
5)Rahul Dravid
6)Shiv Chanderpaul
7)Alan Knott (WK)
8)Matthew Hoggard
9)Tanvir Ahmed
10)kemar Roach
11)Waqar Younis

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:22 pm

Cricketfan - unless my memory deceives me, Alan Knott was far from defensive. I remember him as an unorthodox and sometimes quite aggressive batsman! Do the stats say otherwise?!

Trevor Bailey deserves a place. Chris Tavare made a speciality of playing almost strokeless innings.

Waqar was a highly aggressive bowler - is he in the team on account of his defensive batting?

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Post by Liam_Main Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:26 pm

I would swap Dravid around with VVS Laxman. Dravid can be aggressive when he needs to be as can Shivnarine Chanderpaul who you've got in your list.
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Post by LeBron's Homie Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:27 pm

VVS is more aggressive than The Wall Liam

Hanif Mohammad has to be a shoe in, he played the longest history in Test cricket.

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Post by guildfordbat Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:37 pm

Cricketfan - you have to find a place for India's opener Sunny Gavaskar. In a 60 over ODI in 1975 he carried his bat for 36!

As regards Alan Knott - the Corporal's memory is spot on.

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Post by Fists of Fury Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:53 pm

Tavare!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:59 am

Theres a bit of an eras thing here though. Today a defenzive batsman is considered someone with a SR under 70, time was scoring at 3 an over was considered aggressive.
From an England perspective Atherton would have been the last real old school opener, and Trott is the master of refussing to play shots in a run chase.
Just been looking at Hoggard vs Anderson in battle of the specialist nightwatchmen.... Andersons strike rate is 36, Hoggards a ridiculous 22.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:21 am

Two old-timers to consider:
William Scotton, who had a poem written about his slow play during a test at the Oval by Alfred, Lord Tennyson.
Arthur Shrewsbury, whose career was based on impregnable defense utilising pad-play.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:44 pm

In support of Chris Tavare's application, from Wiki:

He adapted his natural game to meet the requirements of the Test side, becoming a notorious blocker. In 1981, at Old Trafford he scored 69 and 78, but was at the crease for twelve hours. His 50 in five hours and fifty minutes, against Pakistan in 1982, was the second slowest in the history of the English game. Amongst his slowest crawls was to score just 35 runs, in six and a half hours, at Madras in the 1981/2 season. Shocked


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Post by eirebilly Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:28 am

I remember a crickter from New Zealand several years ago that was a real negative batsman. Mark Greatbatch???
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Post by alfie Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:40 pm

Godfrey Evans for Knott as keeper. I think he once batted 93 minutes without scoring...

Bailey has to play. He could (when the occasion called for it) bore with bat or ball. As could Ken "Slasher" Mackay , an Australian contemporary.

And "Jackie" McGlew of SA who once made 105 in a tick over nine and a half hours...

Lots of candidates , though in truth many of these fellows could score quickly when they needed to but often played the stonewall role for their teams.


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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:24 pm

yh i suppose i shouldnt have put knott in there..

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