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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:11 am

Crikey fastlane, not a good place to be!

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Post by stnick88 Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:43 pm

in ibiza anyone causing trouble took a beating from the police, seemed to work quite well!

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:31 pm

I spoke to soon. out for a friends birthday in Bristol last night and bang on 10 o clock it all kicked off. stores being smashed up and set on fire. Police really should be able to use force.

they just stood there and took it and this inflamed the situation. it must have been so frustrating being a copper there. I really believe a bit of force would have completely cured the situation.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:35 pm

Looting down my street last night. There were two policemen keeping a distance. Asked them whethere any more were coming, they said don't know, no-one knows, we haven't got enough poilce.

2 hours later riot police came to clear the looters, by then all the shops were empty.

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Post by 'Arry Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:51 pm

Pete, I'm looking forward to our match! Should be a cracker!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:33 pm

Should be Arry, should be.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:37 pm

Hi guys,

Will be posting the format for everyones sides for match threads on your squad pages. If you use the quote button on my comment you will see the coding behind the format.
Some of us are already using the coding but can we all try and use this on a weekly basis please. Will make updating match threads a much faster job thumbsup
If your not sure on the coding take a copy of it to your squad page maybe and have a few test runs at naming a side to get used to the coding.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:09 pm

Alex Gray has joined Irish

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:13 pm

was that who nick was eluding to??

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:15 pm

Yes it was. Think he'll be a really good signing for us.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:16 pm

Could be. Although if you saw Gibson and Gray in the smae back row you could think you could get to them. All the potential in the world but can't replace experience at times.

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:16 pm

Leicester were interested so a real coup for irish. Great signing

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:18 pm

For me Gibson's best position is at 6, although I can see Irish using him at 7 this season due to a lack of options there.

What I'd like to see is

6. Gibson
7. Experienced natural openside
8. Gray

Someone like Martyn Williams could have been ideal for a season. Gutted we lost Steffon as that would have been an exciting backrow.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:23 pm

I think Fourie would have worked well with them.


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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:26 pm

Agree with Steven that i dont think you could get away with Gray and Gibson together. especially when the rain comes down.

Gibson for me is a real talent. i have never watched him and not been impressed. He looks a 6 rather than a 7 though. Think gray will be used off the bench this year


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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:27 pm

Yeah Fourie would have been another good option.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:28 pm

He's definitely a 6 Mat. Very intelligent player as well. If managed properly has a big future ahead of him.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:30 pm

What i like about gibson is his intelligence. he is always in the right place and is a great worker.

Also carries quite well. I have been hoping gloucester would be in for him. I think he has potential to play for england.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:00 pm

Leicester cooled as Gray was asking too much, bit of Bulk and he'll be some player. He's very much in the Harinordoquy mould albeit slightly not at that standard lol. Big big things were expected of him at Falcons, sad to see him go.

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Post by stnick88 Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:13 pm

he's been training for a week now, imagine he will be on bench for first game of season, will be back up for big hala'ufia

there is an openside on the way but nothing to shout about.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:28 am

So Newcastle continue their scheme to provide every club in England with one of their academy prospects...unbelievable to think of all the talent they have let go over the years.

Think Gray is a cracking prospect.

Cant wait for the start of the season, been trying to work out what teams will do well - think Sarries could build up a huge lead, wont they only lose Stevens to England? Cant think of many other internationals they will lose.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:44 am

Burger, Wigglesworth(?), Wyles, Botha(?)

They have pretty good backups in these positions though, should be very strong. Them and Falcons to dominate I reckon....erm

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:53 am

I've got a feeling England will only take Care and Youngs, rely on Foden for WC - that way you free up another centre to travel because that is where England are weakest and might need the options.

Botha wont go after Shaw's performance at the weekend - think he will only travel if one of th elocks gets injured.

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Post by Driver Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:03 am

Chris I only have 55 after a quick count will count later on as I'm off hooligan bashing!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:07 am

We will lose if we put Foden at 9. He was never a good 9 ever in my book. He got away with it because he could run

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:49 am

Foden wouldnt ever have to play there though Steven - if Care of Youngs got injured and left the squad then they can call up a replacement. Just going by what Johnson is thinking as a WC you really need to make sure you've got enough cover in the weak spots.

Anyone got a list of the 2003 WC squad, would be very interested in seeing that and how Woodward made up his 30 - reckon Johnson will follow closely in terms of make up

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:08 am

I'm not sure if that's right Chris, surely the whole point of a squad is to cover all circumstances. If Youngs got injured, Care would start. If Care got injured 2 mins in Foden would have to play 9 if no other available.

I imagine 3 hooks and 3 SH's to be selected

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:18 am

Has to be 3 hooks and 9's.

Say Youngs is injured for 2 weeks. We wouldnt want to call a replacement as then he couldn't play when he was fit again and we wouldn't have adequate cover.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:16 pm

Anyone read that Moody and Sheridan are both struggling to make the WC at the moment? Youngs expected back by the Ireland game.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:20 pm

England WC squad in 2003 - did have 3 no9s in it - Bracken, Dawson and Gomarsall - do you think Wigglesworth is ahead of Simpson.

Guess that will depend on who makes the team against Wales on Saturday - would love Simpson to play, he could be such a menace on the bench and could do a lot of damage against the lower ranked teams, which could be crucial if the end table comes down to tries scored.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:51 pm

No Hernadez for the world cup: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7090912,00.html

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:28 pm

You would think the Boks would have done this sooner rather than a few weeks before the WC

To be fair the stormers defend well
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:39 pm

Sale have signed an argentinian full back called Tucalet.

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:51 pm

is he the one who was playing for the argentinian team in the south african competition. They had some really good players

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:54 pm

Yehh he is. He apparently did well in it but I've never seen him play.

Diamond says he was unlucky to not go to the world cup, I don't know whether that's true or not but could be an astute piece of business

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:58 pm

He was absolutely msutard in what was a fairly average comp. I sadly watched a few highlight shows on the vodacom cup and the Fb and wing looked really good attacking wise.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:03 pm

The Pampas team did well in that competition. Diamond has had his eye on him since he was helping Saints so he's seen a lot of him.

Still need a 10!

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:34 pm

He should get the ten who played for the pampas. he looked a real prospect. Sanchez was his name. Looked great on the front foot.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:39 am

France team:

France team: Traille; Clerc, Marty, Mermoz, Palisson; Trinh-Duc, Yachvili; Marconnet, Szarzewski, Ducalcon, Pierre, Millo-Chluski, Dusautoir (capt), Harinordoquy, Lakafia.

Replacements: Guirado, Poux, Nallet, Bonnaire, Parra, Skrela, Medard.

23rd man: Barcella.

Barcella is kind of back!! Wahoo!!!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:46 am

I like that back line.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:13 am

Just waiting on a team sheet from Newcastle and we can open predictions early this week Whistle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:00 am

Done mate, just needed to get hands on laptop thumbsup

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Post by prop_lyd Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:00 am

I dunno Pooly....making us all wait Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:06 am

Lol....who give Johnny this job man! He'll be busting my balls all season now Smile

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Post by prop_lyd Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:14 am

It keeps him off the streets.......
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Post by dammit_chris Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:57 pm

Guys just heard England team is going to be:

1. Wilson
2. Thompson
3. Cole
4. Lawes
5. Deacon
6. Wood
7. Fourie
8. Easter
9. Wigglesworth (Simpson wont go WC)
10. Flood
11. Monye
12. Hape
13. Tindall
14. Ashton
15. Foden

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:19 pm

Chris, if that is true, then it says to me that Sheridan may well not be fit for the World Cup. I can think of no ther reason for looking at Wilson at loosehead, when in the current squad there are 4 players who are better at loosehead than him in Sheridan, Corbs, Payne and Stevens.
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Post by stnick88 Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:33 pm

Seeing Wilson in the team depresses me

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:11 pm

Payne for player of the tournament down under!! he will be everywhere.

Wilson is a joke. he looks unfit and you can maybe get away with him at tight head.

very depressing. where did you find that out chris

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:47 pm

Top man Pooly guinness

Predictions open

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