Should the ICC revoke Bangladesh's Test Status?

by longhopmerchant Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:57 pm

Bangladesh have now played 69 Tests, winning only 3. More worrying is that they have only managed to draw 6 out of the remaining 63 Tests. Furthermore they have lost over 30 Tests by an innings.

By contrast, Zimbabwe after 69 Tests had won 7 Tests, but more importantly had drawn 23 Tests, so they only lost nearly 1 in 2 games.

We keep hearing Bangladesh are improving, yet their fast bowlers, I use the term lightly, are pathetic. Their batsmen can only slog, they ca barely bat longer than a session.

You look at Zimbabwe, and their crop of youngsters and they could develop into a fine side. Taylor, Jarvis, Ervine. Vitori etc.

On the other hand Bangladesh just can't cut it, their 3 wins where mainly due to Zimbabwe and the Windies fielding weakened sides.

by hodge Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:09 am

probably but it wont while they do ok with ODI, i think that every 3/4 years so one cycle of tests home and away the bottom test team/top associate team should have some sort of play off or relegation/promotion system so a new team gets test status. So atm you would see Ireland i imagine promoted so test status.

Could that not also be a way to do a test championship, yes it would take 4 years but could decide the best team as it would require consistency.

by activereactive Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:07 am

Yess, ICC should, MODS plz let carry out a poll on this.

by Guest Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:45 am

Ask and you shall receive.

by activereactive Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:50 am

Sainty wrote:Ask and you shall receive.

Thanks Mods.

by msp83 Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:07 pm

Don't think Bangladesh should have their test status taken away.
Of course they haven't played great test cricket so far. But one thing we have to remember is that it took NZ more than a quarter of a century to register a test win. India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, the West Indies, when they were admited to test cricket has had a rather slow start.
Moreover, Bangladesh is a much beter side than the assicoates other than Ireland whom in my view deserves to pay test cricket.
Unlike football, the global reach of cricket is limited. We need more, and not less people to take to the game.
Of course there is the quality aspect. Even the 2 division plan doesn't come through, what the ICC should try and do is to promote more test game among the lower ranked sides as often as possible, and in between a 2 test series against the higher ranked sides. That will give the lower ranked sides the feel of test cricket, and also enough of exposure.
Bangladesh is playing a test after a year, India haven't invited them for a test series as yet. No wonder their test game is not really picking up the pace.

by Hoggy_Bear Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:15 pm

Does anyone think it might be a good idea to have test series between the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands etc. and 'A' sides of the bigger nations.
Allow the bigger teams to blood players in proper test match conditions and give smaller nations test experience and a better chance of actually winning.

by ShankyCricket Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:53 pm

Hoggy_Bear wrote:Does anyone think it might be a good idea to have test series between the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands etc. and 'A' sides of the bigger nations.
Allow the bigger teams to blood players in proper test match conditions and give smaller nations test experience and a better chance of actually winning.

Hoggy good idea mate but the results of those matches shouldnt have any bearing on the rankings.

by liverbnz Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:58 pm

They shouldn't have it taken it off them, but the ICC should seriously look at the criteria for handing it out in the first place. 3 Test wins in 7(?) years is pretty dire and it doesn't look like that will improve much in the near future.

Do Bangladesh even have a FC setup? None of their players look like they've played any type of the longer form of the game. They lost their last 6 wickets for 77 runs, but this all happened in 10 overs! Why on God's green earth would they be scoring at the rate when there was so much time left in the game?

Ireland would suffer the exact same fate if given Test status. Develop your grass roots cricket and your FC game first and then the ICC should consider Test status. A handful of excellent ODi and T20 results should be irrelevant in that decison.

by msp83 Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:12 pm

Bangladesh does have a first class setup, and without that you can't be a full member. However, their FC cricket is not of great quality one should think.
Bangladesh would be benefited if their players play as much FC games in the FC setups of other countries. Someone like Shakib Al Hasan has already made a name for himself in the county circles, the BCB should take the initiative in this regard, and they should try and organize as much A tours to other test playing countries as possible.
Bangladesh seem to have invested a lot in ODI cricket over the last year or so, considering they were co-hosting the ODI WC. Now that is done and dusted, they should give more attention to test cricket. Its by being ale to play quality test cricket that they are going to do well in other formats as well.

by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:35 pm

Would be retrograde step imo to revoke their test status. Good idea to have more matches (not tests) with A sides from stronger nations which could benefit both parties.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:44 am

They did give England a tougher time than India have so far.

by longhopmerchant Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:01 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:They did give England a tougher time than India have so far.

Sun was out last summer and Iqbal slogged a couple of hundreds. Their bowling attack wouldn't worry grade sides back home in Australia.

by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:54 pm

ridiclous, no way should their status be revoked, it takes nations to adjust look at sri lanka and new zealand in their first 10 yrs as a test nation

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:47 pm

longhopmerchant wrote:Australia have now played 4 series against England in recent times, winning only 1.

We keep hearing Australia are improving, yet their fast bowlers, I use the term lightly, are pathetic. Their batsmen can only slog, they ca barely bat longer than a session.

You look at Zimbabwe, and their crop of youngsters and they could develop into a fine side. Taylor, Jarvis, Ervine. Vitori etc.

On the other hand Australia just can't cut it, their last win was mainly due to now retired players and England fielding weakened sides.

by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:35 pm

the aussies are losing a lot of serie's, should we revoke their status as well!

by Punter's Dodgy Digit Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:12 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:ridiclous, no way should their status be revoked, it takes nations to adjust look at sri lanka and new zealand in their first 10 yrs as a test nation

SL and NZ have produced World Class players like Hadlee, Crowe, Vettori, Murali, Sanga etc.

Bangladesh are ordinary, and factor in their very modest first class system. Look at the side closest to them, Zimbabwe, they have overseas players in their sides and their standard has improved.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:53 am

Lets look at Indias first. Its direspectful to play this badly, if they didnt want to come why take the money. The sponsors should refuse to pay them for this, its an embaressment to the sport.

by Gregers Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:47 pm

Bangladesh have come a long way and they are getting closer to the rest of the teams, the problem lies with the fact that the jump from associate nations to tests is so massive.

Tamim and Shakib are great players, as was Ashraful

by GSC Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:25 pm

They might be getting closer, but they're still miles away

by Liam_Main Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:30 pm

Bangladesh are a good 70 odd points away from New Zealand so I wouldn't say they were getting closer. They have the youth and the talent to slowly make there way up but there not going to get anyway not beating sides like Zimbabwe.

by GSC Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:43 pm

I don't think it should be revoked, the ICC made a commitment to Bangladeshi cricket. But certainly they need help.

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